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GRClarkesq Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 03:50 PM
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60 Minutes: Arafat's wife receives $100k/mo from PA funds
Albawaba.com

US television documentary: Arafat's wife, daughter live in Paris on
expense of Palestinian aid money

07-11-2003, 07:09

Palestinian president, Yasser Arafat, transfers $100,000 from funds directed to the Palestinian Authority to his wife Suha who lives in Paris along with the couple's daughter, according to an investigative report conducted by CBS television show 60 Minutes, to be aired Sunday accross the United States.

http://www.albawaba.com/news/index.php3?sid=262816&lang=e&dir=news
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SCAMBABY Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 03:53 PM
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1. Good to see
My tax dollars going to good use . ?:eyes:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:05 PM
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43. $100,000 can't compare to 8,000,000,000.00
That's one-hundred thousand can't compare to $8 billion.

A factor of 80,000.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:01 PM
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2. Sounds like a pay cut to me
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:11 PM
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3. I see $100,000
I do not see "/mo." Has anyone checked other "leaders" assets, ex. US/UK, to find what has been stored away?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:16 PM
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4. WTF ??
$ 100,OOO. FOR doing what??
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:19 PM
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5. Did you have to ask that?
The possibilities are rather off-putting :puke: .
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:20 PM
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6. Shes not exactly...
a real happening looking babe.
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:43 PM
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16. Speaking of that...
have you ever seen Arafat and Ringo Starr together?
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:33 PM
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33. Paging Dr. Don; Paging Dr. Don!
Well, have you?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:38 PM
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35. You know....
i've never HAVE seen them together.
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:48 PM
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36. Now, gentlemen
That's just not right. I'm not Ringo's biggest fan but I think you'll agree that he has NEVER looked anything like this:



Personally, I think it looks more like Yoko :) .
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:51 PM
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38. Oh, now that I look closely, I think
I do see a difference.

Never mind about the Beatles' royalties then. No wonder he needs all the other $$$$$$$!
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:56 PM
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39. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!
MY EYES...i CANT SEE ANYMORE !!!
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:59 PM
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40. How can you be a physician
with such a reaction?

Desensitize, my man, do yoga...ohmmmmmmmmm.
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:01 PM
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41. Geez, I'm sorry
I really should have posted a warning of some kind ...
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:04 PM
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42. I'll give that both a "yes" and a "no"
Yes, you should have on humanitarian reasons, but to find out a physician can't handle it is quite upsetting, so based on that, I am glad you did not give a warning.

I wonder if he's a cosmetic surgeon...that might explain what might be called his over-reaction.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:14 PM
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46. I'm sorry...
that was the MOST hideous thing i've ever seen !!
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. So, I'm thinkin'
he might have more money that we can imagine.

Just think: Beatles' royalties, too!

hmmmmmmm
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:20 PM
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7. Salary
and supporting his family is just as important to him as it is to anyone else don't you think?

It's not like he has any kind of social safety net in the way of pension plans, portfolios, life insurance and so on, to see his child thru school should he be shot in the next few seconds.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. The story says
he's accumulated more than $800 million in aid money.

Have you seen pictures of the refugee camps?
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:30 PM
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11. Salary?!?!?!?
Now THAT'S funny. No, seriously, thanks for the laugh.

Tell me, Maple, how much of the $800,000,000 he has taken for himself was officially earmarked for his salary? Oh, and Chris Patten of the EU had refused to investigate the theft of EU relief funds by Arafat. I wonder why.

Do you really want to knoe where the money has gone? Look here:

http://www.public-integrity.org/money.pdf
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:51 PM
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19. Not meant to be funny
You have any idea how much any of the other leaders have or get?

The Israeli ones? Or your own for that matter?

Spending his entire life, and risking it every second, doesn't count tho because he's Palestinian?
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:58 PM
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24. Oh, puhleeze!
"...spending his entire life, and risking it every second..."

Oh, puhleeze!:crazy: :eyes:
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:19 PM
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29. Also
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 05:31 PM by Blitz
Idi Amin spent "his entire life, risking every second (sic)."

Did I mention that Stalin spent his entire life? How about Mussolini? Hitler? Don't tell me that Arafat doesn't deserve the same love!! We love Kim Jon Il, so why not Arafat?? Jack the Ripper risked his life because of his lifestyle choice. Pol Pot didn't starve. My boy Pinochet doesn't get any grief because he's a right winger and not a Palestinian! Why can't Arafat make a buck, you racist Pro-Bush haters?!?!?

You just hate Yasser because he is Palestinian, you racist, you!! Other leaders of international terrorist organizations who order the death of U.S. diplomats are OK with you; I just know it!! Not only that, but I have solid evidence that Bush and Cheney and Rice and Powell and Rumsfeld have all stolen hundreds of millions of dollars of relief aid and have transferred this money to private out-of-country bank accounts. You know it too! you're just a hater and a hypocrite!
/Arafat apologist
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:25 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Busted again!
(((hanging head in shame)))
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #19
30. Bwahahahaha
Pro-ARAFAT.......
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #7
56. Thats the most....
amazing post i've ever read.
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:23 PM
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9. This is old news
but not very well publicized. The $100,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to what Arafat has stolen, with the knowledge of both the U.S. and the U.N., who continue to let him get away with it rather than confront the old murderer. When it comes to theft, Arafat makes Al Capone look like Jimmy Carter. He is the biggest enemy that the Palestinian people have ever had, bar none.
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GRClarkesq Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:27 PM
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10. Different source: 60,000UK/mo
Yasser Arafat ‘has £1.8bn fortune’

WILLIAM TINNING November 07 2003

Copyright © 2003 Newsquest (Herald & Times) Limited. All Rights Reserved

A TELEVISION documentary is to claim that Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian president, has amassed a personal fortune of up to £1.8bn and his wife is given tens of thousands of pounds each week to fund a lavish lifestyle in Paris.

http://ww1.theherald.co.uk/news/4130.html
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:30 PM
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12. The camps
also get millions in funding, and have done for years.

As to Arafat...how does this make him any different than Bush or Cheney?
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Please let's not start the diversions.
The article is about Arafat.

May we discuss the subject at hand please?

Thanks.
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:50 PM
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18. The story is also about human nature
Power corrupts regardless of whether you're an Arab or Israeli, Democrat or Republican, CEO or Union President. Sad.

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:53 PM
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21. It is the
subject at hand.

And I am discussing Arafat.

I just don't see him as any different than anyone else because he's Palestinian.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #21
60. Oh...hes different...
Hes a murderous theiving thug....does that help ??
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:32 PM
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13. I just don't understand
how the Palestinians can think this is okay.

Do they even know?

There's a lot of DUers who use Arab sources. Could one please tell us if it's publicized?

Maybe the everyday people don't realize this about Arafat.

Opinions on that, please...
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Blitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:50 PM
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17. Many don't think its OK
those that know, that is (which is a minority given the total information control the PA has over the territories). However, Palestinians who speak out against Arafar generally wind up like this:



Bakir Khouli, 17, lifted up his T-shirt at his one-room house in Tulkarem on Sunday to reveal black and blue marks he said were made by electrical wires shortly before his mother was killed.

"They accused me of helping Israeli intelligence," he told The Associated Press. "When they started beating me with this wire, I confessed and invented a story."

. . .

An Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades (Blitz - Arafat's thugs) leader said his group was forced to "strike with an iron hand" to prevent collaboration with Israel.

"I know that this woman had children but we had no choice. We left her son alive to take care of the children," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Asked why his group employed torture, he said: "This is the only way you can get confessions from such people who betray their people."

Here is the woman they murdered:




http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2002/08/25/story65495.asp

It's simple. If Arafat has an enemy, that person, man woman or child, and their family are denounced as "Israeli Collaborators" and then tortured and killed in the street in front of a cheering mob. Who's going to stand up to him from within? Where is the outrage from without?
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Yes, there's a thread on I/P that
discusses an execution out of jealousy with the false accusation of collaboration. Disgusting!
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:58 PM
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23. Wish It Were As Simple As Arafat
Ordering thugs to Al Aqsa thugs to beat up whoever he wants

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=218438&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

And it's too bad Arafat didn't put that money into good use, like encircling the Israelis in a wall.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #23
31. LOL. Good one.
Too bad Arafat didn't invest these funds in improving refugee camp infrastructure, so that Israeli troops could have some shiny new buildings to bulldoze.
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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #31
45. Why would he do that
If things improved, he might be out of a job.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:37 PM
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15. HEY !! THATS *MY* MONEY !!
.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. Really?
Funny. I thot you gave it away.

Like you do to so many other leader's causes.
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. Was that a nasty?
Even if Doc gives his money away, he has a right to know whether or not his tax dollars are going to line Arafat's pockets, doncha think?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. No, it would be right-wing to think that way.
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Oh, rats!
I've been outed again.

That's the last time I use "The Advocate", I'll tell you!
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. Now thats funny..
.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. Excuse me...
could you re-write your post so it makes sense ??
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #27
44. Be nice...maybe he's a Talking Heads fan.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:30 PM
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47. Arafat Hurts the Palestinian Cause
He should be removed. But not by Israelis.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:35 PM
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48. This Arafat bashing should be relegated to the basement where
it belongs. By the way how much dough do you suppose Sharon has salted away?
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. Nowhere near as much, I'd guess.
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brucelee Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:51 PM
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49. Exposed: Dirty Money Schemes To Steal Election for Sharon
The One Jerusalem Foundation posted a press release on its website (www.onejerusalem.org) in June, reporting on the visit to Irving, Texas by Jerusalem's Mayor Ehud Olmert. During his several-day Texas tour, Olmert, a Likud party member, participated in the Jerusalem Prayer Summit, a Likud outreach project to America's Christian evangelical community, which he was launching, in league with two leading U.S. Christian Zionists, Rev. Mike Evans and Rev. Pat Robertson. All told, 300 Christian Zionist figures, including Dr. Tim LaHaye, Dr. John Hagee, Christian Coalition Director Roberta Coombs, and singer Pat Boone, have so far endorsed Olmert's Jerusalem Prayer Team.

The One Jerusalem release failed to mention that almost all of the Christian Zionists who joined in the bonding exercise with the Likud, have also teamed up, since the mid-1990s, with Rev. Sun Myung Moon's dirty-money and sex cult, the Unification Church. The Moonies' own deep ties to the Sharon faction in Israel, which date back to the late 1970s, were recently exposed in EIR ("Will Moonie Money Be Used in Netanyahu-Sharon Election Theft?" Nov. 15, 2002).
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2948sharon_money.html
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #49
54. LaRouche is a vicious, far-right antisemite.
He is not a reliable source.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #54
63. LaRouche is not far right...
he's just crazy.

Have you ever seen what he says about deregulation? You can't call it right-wing.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. And now
they complain about LaRouche, yet when their right wing anti-Arab sources are posted, everthing is fine and dandy. Can anyone spell HYPOCRISY?
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #49
57. Hi, brucelee,
Hey, I'm beggin' ya here!

Please come to I/P and use LaRouche as a source...puhleeeze...
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #49
62. Jeeeeze
The Moonies...now I've heard of money scandals and the Sharon family (under investigation) but this year old story has gone nowhere. It's a right-wing pipe dream. The Moonies are funding the Right-wing Christian alliance and Sharon is being fed? election financing?? and illegal champaign financing?? Shades of Bill Clinton.
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brucelee Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:55 PM
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50. Are `Mega' Bucks Helping Sharon Steal Israeli Elections?
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 08:55 PM by brucelee
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3004megabucks.html
by Scott Thompson and Jeffrey Steinberg
A small group of American and Canadian mega-billionaires, tied to organized crime and right-wing Zionist causes, has joined in the effort to steal the Jan. 28 Israeli elections, on behalf of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who is committed to drowning any Israel-Palestine peace process in a sea of blood. The Mega Group, founded in 1991 by Charles and Edgar Bronfman, Michael Steinhardt, Max Fisher, and several dozen other multi-billionaires, meets secretly twice a year, and, since its founding, has sought to impose its top-down control over the "alphabet soup" of pro-Israel political action committees, self-styled civil rights organizations, and tax-exempt charities. Among the Mega Group's institutional power bases are the World Jewish Congress, the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, and the United Jewish Fund—a recent merger of the major American and Canadian Jewish charities, disbursing annual gross contributions of nearly $3 billion.

According to one Israeli source, the group has expanded in recent years, and now is made up of over 50 American and Canadian super-rich Zionist activists. The dominant figures in the group—the Bronfman brothers, Steinhardt, and Fisher—all have longstanding personal and family organized-crime pedigrees, tracing back to the Meyer Lansky National Crime Syndicate. The Canada-based Bronfman gang, headed by Edgar and Charles' father Sam, and by Max Fisher, got their start as bootleggers during Prohibition. Fisher was a leader of the Detroit-based Purple Gang, which, in collusion with Moe Dalitz's Cleveland-centered "Jewish Navy," smuggled Bronfman's illegal booze across the Great Lakes from Canada into the Midwest. The Bronfman family motto, which applies to most of the Mega Group, is: "From rags, to rackets, to riches, to respectability."

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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #50
58. Please see Message 57 and
please come to I/P and use LaRouche, okay?
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gone2thechase Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:16 PM
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51. She deserves it
Having to be married to Arafat should be worth a lot more.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #51
53. Trying to negotiate with him might be tougher still.
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ForestsBeatBushes Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #53
59. Yet, for the other possibilities,
please refer to the photo as posted by Blitz...then, use your imagination.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:48 AM
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55. Well by all means then!
Let's help ourselves to more Palestinian land as reparations! This justifies it all!

Someone tell me what we can get for 134 Billion.

U.S Financial Aid To Israel:
Figures, Facts, and Impact



Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Cost per Israeli
$23,240

http://www.investigate911.com/aidtoisrael.htm

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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #55
61. How to compare?
$100,000 a month for 2 Palestinians living in Paris to $23,240 for 50 years for one Israeli? Israelis really have to live dirt cheap!
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:35 PM
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65. Dupe
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