Nov. 9, 2003 : Arafat wins control of PA security forces

[drdon326]

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1068273141873&p=1006688055060

After weeks of wrangling, Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat and PA Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei on Saturday reached a deal giving Arafat exclusive control over all PA security forces and paving the way for the formation of a broad-based cabinet.

Qurei backtracked from his earlier demand to appoint Gen. Nasser Youssef as interior minister and agreed to place control over the security forces under the National Security Council, which is headed by Arafat. Over the past few weeks, Qurei threatened to quit more than once after Arafat balked at his decision to appoint Youssef.

Meanwhile, Arafat's retention of his hold on the PA security forces has not lessened Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's willingness to meet with Qurei, senior government sources said Saturday night.

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KRISTALLNACHT...NEVER AGAIN

[SweetheartLikeYou]

1. Arafat wins nothing!

When will the people understand he is not helping the situation?

[bluesoul]

2. The same goes

for Sharon...

[Name removed]

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[rini]

3. As long as the thieving weasel

retains any power there can be no peace, just another round of
brazen lies and hypocracy.



KRISTALLNACHT...NEVER AGAIN

[Darranar]

5. That's not true...

if the Prime minister manages to get enough popular support to ignore Arafat, Arafat will still have some power but won't be able to cripple the peace process. The only way for that to occur is with Israeli concessions.

[The Magistrate]

23. Unfortunately, My Friend

Who controls the guns controls the process. This is particularly true in situations lacking institutional inertia. So long as the armed groups answer to Arafat, no one else matters more than a kitten's mewl.

[Darranar]

24. I disagree...

Arafat would not attack Israel directly - that would be foolish to an extreme - and that is really the only thing that would harm the peace process that could immediately be done by Arafat. Once the prime minister gained enough power, the circumstances of control could well change...

But all of this is really unimportant - unless Sharon acts for peace (which he won't) this won't go anywhere anyway.

[Darranar]

4. The headline is not technically accurate...

the power is in the hands of the National Security Council, and Qurei is a member.

I don't see at all how this is as bad as Kristallnacht. It just means that nothing will change - if that wasn't clear already. Sicne Qurei is already doomed b Sharon and Arafat, this si but a flea.

[bluesoul]

6. Apartheid

NEVER AGAIN...

[rini]

8. please address the article

n/t

[rini]

7. this is the anniversary of kristalnacht

it has nothing to do with the article.

[bluesoul]

9. It si also the anniversary of

November 9, 1955 Event: UN disapproves of South Africa's apartheid politics


And it has much to do with it. Apartheid in new clothes...

[SweetheartLikeYou]

12. Kristallnacht:

A massive, coordinated attack on Jews throughout the German Reich on the night of November 9, 1938, into the next day, has come to be known as Kristallnacht or The Night of Broken Glass.

On November 9, mob violence broke out as the regular German police stood by and crowds of spectators watched. Nazi storm troopers along with members of the SS and Hitler Youth beat and murdered Jews, broke into and wrecked Jewish homes, and brutalized Jewish women and children.

All over Germany, Austria and other Nazi controlled areas, Jewish shops and department stores had their windows smashed and contents destroyed. Synagogues were especially targeted for vandalism, including desecration of sacred Torah scrolls. Hundreds of synagogues were systematically burned while local fire departments stood by or simply prevented the fire from spreading to surrounding buildings.

Heydrich requested new decrees barring Jews from any contact with Germans by excluding them from public transportation, schools, even hospitals, essentially forcing them into ghettos or out of the country. Goebbels said the Jews would be made to clean out the debris from burned out synagogues which would then be turned into parking lots.


http://historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/knacht-bio.htm

[Muddleoftheroad]

13. As we both know

Israel is not apartheid.

[SweetheartLikeYou]

17. Thank you.

:cry:

[Darranar]

11. I'm aware of the fact that this is the anniversary...

but why did drdon write it under the Arafat article? The implication was clear...

[drdon326]

14. I'm sure....

today means as much to you as it does me.

I really have no doubts at all.


NEVER AGAIN

[bluesoul]

15. It may mean

to many others as well Drdon. But that doesn't mean that other things related to the present don't concern us...

[SweetheartLikeYou]

16. But, bluesoul, for some of us,

to coin a phrase, the past really was prologue and the voids in our families tend to spring to the forefront of our brains most painfully on such an anniversary. I hope you can empathize...

[Darranar]

18. It doesn't mean the same thing to you that it means to me...

I see it as a warning, you see it as an excuse.

[drdon326]

19. REALLY NOW ??

Since you have stated publically on more than one occassion that you
are infact jewish,please explain to me how , given your sense
of your own personal jewish history,how you "see it as a warning"?

I truely look foward to your answer.

[Darranar]

20. Kristallnacht is warning...

for what happens when ignorance seeps into the people fo a country.

Those crimes against humanity were committed because people failed to see.

[drdon326]

21. Well, Well, Well......

youre right...

Those crimes against Jewish people were committed because people failed to see....and unfortunately SOME JEWS failed to see these things back then.... and I suspect even now.

[Darranar]

22. And some Jews...

fail to see what some of their religion are doing to other people...

[drdon326]

25. "Football type" pool...

on how long Qurei lasts ?

[RuB]

26. "Arafat wins control?"

He controls all the money, his security forces are on his payroll, who's going to oppose him? What a funny title the JP chose!