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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 08:20 AM
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Separation fence to include wide area east of Jerusalem
Last Update: 10/11/2003 12:28
Separation fence to include wide area east of Jerusalem
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent

The route of the separation fence east of Jerusalem will include a wide swath of territory extending to the Alon Road and cliffs of Wadi Kelt, according to a plan prepared by the defense establishment.

--snip--

According to the current plan, which may still be subject to revision, the fence will approach A-Ram, near the Atarot airport and Qalandiyah refugee camp. It will then turn east, encompassing the Geva Binyamin (Adam) settlement, and continue as far as the cliffs of Wadi Kelt and the Alon Road. (No fence will be necessary along the Wadi Kelt cliffs, which constitute a natural barrier.)

At the Good Samaritan junction, the fence will turn southwest, circling around Ma'aleh Adumim and linking up with the existing fence to the north and east of Abu Dis and Azzariyeh. (Most of the residents of these two communities will not be included within the confines of the fence.) The fence will be integrated into the E-1 plan approved by the Netanyahu government toward the end of its term in 1999. The E-1 plan greatly expanded the territorial jurisdiction of Ma'aleh Adumim. Though there are relatively few Palestinians living in this area - with the exception of the Jahalin Bedouin tribes near Ma'aleh Adumim - it is a large expanse similar in size to the "finger" planned in the Ariel region, further north in the West Bank.

--snip--

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/358831.html

map of the area to compare with (remove space between ".edu/" and "maps/" to view):--
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/ maps/middle_east_and_asia/westbank_jericho92.jpg
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 08:39 AM
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1. The airport was the question at the last meeting with Bush - any decision?
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 08:57 AM
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3. <nevermind>
Edited on Mon Nov-10-03 08:59 AM by Aidoneus
.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 08:43 AM
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2. More
land grabbing...
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:14 AM
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4. vs security
The last paragraph or bottom line:

If the current plan for the Jerusalem fence is
approved by the government, it would likely
face opposition from the U.S. administration.
There is also some disagreement among defense
officials. Some Israel Defense Forces officers
argue there is no justification for including
so much territory west of the fence. Police
Commissioner Shlomo Aharonishki also favors a
more modest fence route, while the commander of
the Jerusalem police, Mickey Levy, would like
to see the fence provide as wide a buffer as
possible for the city.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/358831.html

In the article by candidate Clark, the fence is talked about as a security measure. Indeed, he is correct. The final plan has not been approved yet.
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bluesoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:16 AM
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5. Securing
foreign land that will never be returned to it's inhabitants...
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GabysPoppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 09:22 AM
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6. Just like the Sinai
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 10:50 AM
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7. US objects to including Ma'ale Adumimin at present


(from Ma'ariv, Rappaport)

Full text (was snipped on the map): At this point the Americans object to a fence that will include Ma'ale Aduminn but if in the future this changes Israel will be able to complete the missing segment.

If this salient is completed, it's the end of a WB state, but who cares about that when there is land to grab? :shrug:
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 10:55 AM
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8. OT:--Ma'ariv English-language web service..
Do you have any idea when it is supposed to be launched? The page says October 2003, and, well..
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:03 AM
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9. LOL
I have no idea. They changed that image to "October" after it said "Late September" and before that it said "Summer 2003". :shrug:

I might email them though, through the co.il contact page. See if I get any joy. :)
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-03 11:09 AM
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10. ahhh..
thanks.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:40 AM
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11. security through annexation
It worked for the Roman Empire; it worked for the United States. Kind of backfired on Germany though.
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