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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:49 AM
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Gaza Doctor Izzeldin Abuelaish Two Years After Israeli Attack that Killed 3 Daughters & Niece:
From Democracy Now, transcript:

January 19, 2011


Gaza Doctor Izzeldin Abuelaish Two Years After Israeli Attack that Killed 3 Daughters & Niece: "As Long as I am Breathing, They are with Me. I Will Never Forget"


Dr. Izzeldin Abuelaish was a well-known Palestinian gynecologist who spent years working in one of Israeli’s main hospitals. On January 16, 2009, two days before the end of Israel’s brutal 22-day assault on Gaza, his home was shelled twice by Israeli tanks. His three daughters and his niece were killed. He has just written a book about his life called I Shall Not Hate: A Gaza Doctor’s Journey on the Road to Peace and Human Dignity. He joins us in our studio for an extended conversation.

SNIP* AMY GOODMAN: Yesterday marked the second anniversary of the end of Israel’s assault on Gaza. Dubbed "Operation Cast Lead," up to 1,400 Palestinians and 13 Israelis were killed in the 22-day assault between December 28th, 2008 and January 18th, 2009. More than half the Palestinians killed were civilians, over 300 of them children.

SNIP* DR. IZZELDIN ABUELAISH: What happened? Everybody in Israel knows. They know that I was talking on television and on the radio, that we were at home, that there are innocent people, 25 people, here. Suddenly, today, when there was a hope for a ceasefire, in the last day that I was talking with my children, suddenly they bombed us. That’s how you treat a doctor who takes care of Israeli patients? Is this what’s done? Is this peace?

in full: http://www.democracynow.org/2011/1/19/gaza_doctor_izzeldin_abuelaish_two_years
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 01:39 PM
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1. It is a shame that the good doctor had to lose his family...
during a cease fire that HAMAS refused to honor. His family was just one of the human shields used by HAMAS to hide behind.

There is and can be no end to this mess until either both sides start to really do some negotiating or one or the other's countries are reduced to rubble, ashes, and corpses.

"From the river to the sea indeed."
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 01:44 PM
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2. Operation Cast Lead was a cease fire?
I would hate to see your idea of an all out assault
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 01:51 PM
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3. Major reason for Operation Cast Lead was the refusal of HAMAS...
to stop the continuous shelling/rocketry of Israel.

Time for the juvenile delinquents on both sides to get all parties to a table someplace and put forth their individual lists of demands. The alternative to actually making change, in this case--peace--is constant warfare far into the foreseeable future.

There was supposedly a 'cease fire' in effect in the period leading up to Cast Lead. It was not honored by HAMAS. Rockets and mortars continue as we speak here to pour into Israel.

What is your solution Azurnoir?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 02:11 PM
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4. you are IMO quite wrong the cease fire or hudna
as it was called was broken by Israel on November 4 2008 when IDF made an incursion into Gaza killing several Palestinians it was widely discussed here
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:57 PM
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6. Complete rubbish. n/t
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 10:58 PM by oberliner
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 01:41 AM
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8. CNN confirms NOVEMBER 5TH attack by ISRAEL ended the truce.
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 01:42 AM by azurnoir
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 08:13 AM
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9. Rick Sanchez, huh?
Reading a "periodical" on the air that he was checking.

Well, I guess that settles it, then.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 09:58 AM
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10. are you denying that it happened or just trying to "killing the messanger"? n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 11:41 AM
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11. I am saying that an anchor reading a newspaper article on the air is meaningless
This has been discussed here ad infinitum - people who want to research it are welcome to do so. The facts speak for themselves.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 01:19 PM
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13. The article posted was transcript of a CNN news story
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 02:03 PM by azurnoir
not something Rick Sanchez was just reading BTW he was not the only one involved, but the insinuation? of the repeat mention of only Rick Sanchez
BTW the link says transcript
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 02:45 PM
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15. It's Rick Sanchez reading articles from various periodicals over the air
The actual heading at the CNN link is "Israelis and Palestinians Suffer Under Bombardments" - however, the person who made the post added his own heading, namely: "CNN confirms NOVEMBER 5TH attack by ISRAEL ended the truce" and only excerpted the part where Rick Sanchez is reading news articles from various publications such as the US News and World Report. That DU post is what you chose to link to here - with the ridiculous excerpt of ridiculous Rick Sanchez ridiculously reading other news articles online to make a ridiculous (and ultimately false) claim.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 03:57 PM
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16. there is further citation of the incident in comment #12
Edited on Thu Jan-20-11 04:00 PM by azurnoir
the claim was not false and by continuously citing only Rick Sanchez
are are you trying to imply some sort of antisemitism on my part or is this just another attempt to 'delegitimatize'?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 04:02 PM
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17. also there are video clips between each comment it seems to be a bit more than reading n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-11 02:44 PM
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18. The video clips are unrelated to the claim in question
They relate back to the heading given by CNN - not the one created by the tombstoned poster you linked to.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:09 PM
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20. Still not justified, IMO.
Not that Hamas aren't disgusting.

'Time for the juvenile delinquents on both sides to get all parties to a table someplace and put forth their individual lists of demands. The alternative to actually making change, in this case--peace--is constant warfare far into the foreseeable future.'

I agree on that!

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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:19 PM
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5. Complete rubbish. n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:34 PM
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7. A shame that Hamas killed his daughters using Israeli soldiers and tanks.
Well, they were guilty of the crime of living in Gaza anyway, so I guess it's really okay.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 12:09 PM
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12. AMY GOODMAN: You have sued the Israeli government. Your statute of limitations is out on January 16
so you have just sued. What are you demanding?

DR. IZZELDIN ABUELAISH: Because they didn’t leave any alternative for me within two years. I was using and used every possible peaceful way, with Israeli ministers, Knesset members. Please, we need the truth and, to bring those daughters justice, apology, responsibility and the consequences of that. That’s what we want. It will be a new opportunity, a window of opportunity, for both nations, for the leadership to speak about the truth and to have the moral courage to move forward, not to deny. We need to take responsibility. So I asked for that, and I told, human life can’t be valued by money, and it’s time to give, not to take. Any compensation that comes, it will go for a foundation that I established, Daughters for Life, for health and education, for girls and women in the Middle East, including Israel. It’s time for women to take the lead and to practice their full potential and their role. That’s what I am determined. I want to see the plans of my daughters fulfilled by other girls. (end)


SNIP*
In June 2008, Israel and Hamas reached a cease-fire agreement. The Israeli government formally acknowledges that until Israel broke the agreeement on November 4, invading Gaza and killing half a dozen Hamas activists, Hamas did not fire a single rocket. Hamas offered to renew the cease-fire. The Israeli cabinet considered the offer and rejected it, preferring to launch its murderous and destructive Operation Cast Lead on December 27. Evidently, there is no justification for the use of force "in self-defense" unless peaceful means have been exhausted. In this case they were not even tried, although—or perhaps because—there was every reason to suppose that they would succeed. Operation Cast Lead is therefore sheer criminal aggression, with no credible pretext, and the same is true of Israel's current resort to force.

The siege of Gaza itself does not have the slightest credible pretext. It was imposed by the US and Israel in January 2006 to punish Palestinians because they voted "the wrong way" in a free election, and it was sharply intensified in July 2007 when Hamas blocked a US-Israeli attempt to overthrow the elected government in a military coup, installing Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan. The siege is savage and cruel, designed to keep the caged animals barely alive so as to fend off international protest, but hardly more than that. It is the latest stage of long-standing Israeli plans, backed by the US, to separate Gaza from the West Bank.

These are only the bare outlines of very ugly policies, in which Egypt is complicit as well.
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/06/02-8


SNIP* In addition, Hamas was “careful to maintain the ceasefire” it entered into with Israel in June 2008, according to an official Israeli publication, despite Israel’s reneging on the crucial component of the truce that it ease the economic siege of Gaza. “The lull was sporadically violated by rocket and mortar shell fire, carried out by rogue terrorist organizations,” the source continues. “At the same time, the movement tried to enforce the terms of the arrangement on the other terrorist organizations and to prevent them from violating it.” Moreover, Hamas was “interested in renewing the relative calm with Israel” (Shin Bet head Yuval Diskin).

The Islamic movement could thus be trusted to stand by its word, making it a credible negotiating partner, while its apparent ability to extract concessions from Israel, unlike the hapless Palestinian Authority doing Israel’s bidding but getting no returns, enhanced Hamas’s stature among Palestinians. For Israel these developments constituted a veritable disaster. It could no longer justify shunning Hamas, and it would be only a matter of time before international pressure in particular from the Europeans would be exerted on it to negotiate. The prospect of an incoming U.S. administration negotiating with Iran and Hamas, and moving closer to the international consensus for settling the Israel-Palestine conflict, which some U.S. policymakers now advocate, would have further highlighted Israel’s intransigence. In an alternative scenario, speculated on by Nasrallah, the incoming American administration plans to convene an international peace conference of “Americans, Israelis, Europeans and so-called Arab moderates” to impose a settlement. The one obstacle is “Palestinian resistance and the Hamas government in Gaza,” and “getting rid of this stumbling block is…the true goal of the war.”

In either case, Israel needed to provoke Hamas into breaking the truce, and then radicalize or destroy it, thereby eliminating it as a legitimate negotiating partner. It is not the first time Israel confronted such a diabolical threat—an Arab League peace initiative, Palestinian support for a two-state settlement and a Palestinian ceasefire—and not the first time it embarked on provocation and war to overcome it.

http://www.counterpunch.org/finkelstein01282009.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-11 01:54 PM
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14. He wrote a book:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-11 07:07 PM
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19. A very moving interview
He is an inspiring man. What a tragedy.
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