How could Israel ever trust the United Nations?

[pistoff democrat]

Liran Zer-Aviv was getting excited about his approaching fourth birthday party when his family took him out to lunch at a well-known restaurant in the Israeli city of Haifa last month. As they ate, a young Palestinian woman walked into the restaurant packed with other families and detonated a suicide bomb. Liran and his parents were killed. So were his baby sister and his grandmother.
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About a quarter of all the rebukes issued by the UN Human Rights Commission are aimed at Israel, while dictatorial countries such as Iran are rarely criticized and countries such as Libya are even invited to chair the body. Until May, 2000, Israel was kept out of the UN system of clubs known as regional groupings, an exclusion that meant it could not serve on the UN's most powerful organ, the Security Council.
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All of this has consequences. As a result of its consistent prejudice against Israel, the United Nations has played no substantial role in the effort to make peace between Israel and its Arab neighbours. Any time anyone suggests a UN intervention in the dispute, Israel quite understandably protests. How could it possibly trust the UN to supervise an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, for example?
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By rejecting the Israeli resolution, the United Nations General Assembly has declared to the world that that girl's death does not matter. More important, it has declared once again its deep bias against the state of Israel.


http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20031128/COGEE27/

[brainshrub]

1. And vice-versa. (nt)

[papau]

2. UN's deep bias against the state of Israel is a fact

Our Arab friends now teach kids in Asia that their life is controlled by evil Jews.

Of course the kids do not have a clue as to what "j e w" means or represents.

The non-passage of the Israeli protect our kids was a clear showing of the middle finger by the UN to jews.

The US - and Israel - knowing this - vote against all UN resolutions on Israel - as in The UN's opinion is not wanted -

and indeed voted against a resolution was obviously going to pass on protect arab kids.

The situation was different in the 2 votes - the message was different - and indeed the UN proved that the US was correct to tell the UN that it's comments on anything about Israel are suspect, and should not be voted. The UN had a chance to prove me and the US State Dept incorrect about the UN bias - and the UN failed when it killed the protect jewish kids resolution after having passed the protect arab kids resolution.

[Classical_Liberal]

3. Oh bull

yet only resolutions against other middle eastern countries are actually enforced, because of US bias in favor of Israel. Guess what, myself and many other liberals supported the fight against the Talabans, both in Pakestian and Afghanistan, not to mention SA. Bush hit Afghanistan the weekest of the parties, and ignored the Pakistan and SA school systems, then they stupidly went after Iraq, which isn't even on the Islamofascist map. Israeli settlements which are definately a root cause of muslim anger have also been ignored. The UN continues to create NEW resolutions against Israel not because of ANY bias, but because Israel never abandons the settlements.

[papau]

4. we agree on the the settlements - but being anti jewish kids???? UN bias

Is obvious - At least to Me.

As to "Israeli settlements which are definately a root cause of muslim anger" - that was said for 1000 years -

Israeli settlements - meaning living Jews - have been a cause of Muslim anger - (as have Christain living areas - check out Istanbul) - happily the Muslim anger was controlled by Muslim leaders most of the time. Indeed Muslim countries have over the last 1000 years been safer than Christain countries - but they have not been safe

If you mean West Bank/Gaza settlements - there was "muslim anger" before 67 and 73 - indeed post 48 there was not much other than Muslim anger - and indeed pre 48 (and pre ww2- post ww1)), attacks on jews - called by Muslim religious leaders - occurred.

And I do not mean every Muslim was or is nuts and wants to have some blood on his hands, or even that every Arab Muslim has a Sadat wierdness that sees starting a battle you know you will lose with much loss of life as a good thing because it will restore pride in the survivors.

Just that UN anti-jew bias has a life of its own and does not depend on "settlements".

[Paschall]

7. "anti-Jewish kids"

Nonsense. The UN document that was adopted addressed the fates of both Palestinian and Israeli children equally.

[Classical_Liberal]

8. You knew well I meant west bank settlements

no the original settlements in 48 are no different, but I am a pragmatist and will live with them as will most pragmatic Palestinians. The settlements of Europe were quite different in that they were legally bought rather than stolen from a weaker people. You are engaging in demogoguery to confuse the issue. A resolution that is equally concerned for Palestinian and Israeli children is not antijew.

[Andromeda]

5. The UN

has shown that they have absolutely no objectivity whatsoever about Israel and that they can never be trusted to supervise any kind of I/P peace agreement.

[bluesoul]

6. And the US does?

Aha...

[rini]

14. The US

is not the issue here, the UN is......

[bluesoul]

15. The US is in the UN

and vetoes almost every resolution concerned with Israel so it's very much the issue with it's unconditional support for Israel. And then Palestinians should believe they are a "fair" mediator. Oh please...

[Classical_Liberal]

9. How's that, because they want Israel out of the settlements?

and are willing to actually do something to cause this eventuality?

[Paschall]

13. Pshaw

As if the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Fourth Geneva Convention, and the UN itself were not inspired in large measure by the horrors that European Jews suffered in the Shoah!

Get a grip on history, please!

[pistoff democrat]

10. United Nations: All Children Are Not Equal

New York----November 27......Israel withdrew a UN resolution on protecting Israeli children from terrorism Wednesday, after amendments proposed by Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and others would have substituted "Middle East" for "Israeli" children and inserted language condemning "foreign occupation," thus subverting its purpose and shifting its focus. The resolution was meant to mirror one adopted last week by 88-4 with 58 abstentions demanding protection for Palestinian children. (Reuters)

Response of United Nations Ambassador Dan Gillerman
November 27, 2003

Israel withdraws its draft resolution and will not ask for it to be voted upon. We do so after the Egyptian delegation together with a number of other delegations have proposed hostile amendments to this resolution and have worked to ensure that its focus and intent has been perverted.

Israel presented its draft resolution only after the resolution on Palestinian children was presented to, and adopted by, the Committee. We would have preferred that no group of children be singled out. But once the plight of Palestinian children has been reserved for special attention, Israeli children certainly deserve no less.

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http://www.israelnewsagency.com/israelichildren.html

[newyorican]

11. The vote for the Egyptian resolution was a week before...

How did Israel vote on that one?

[Paschall]

12. It was only a draft resolution from the UN Social Committe

The US, Israel, Micronesia, and the Marshall Islands voted against.

The final resolution passed in plenary session makes no distinction between Israeli and Palestinian children.

The Egyptian proposal is here, with background
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2143.shtml

The Israeli propoal in response is at
http://cbsnewyork.com/mideast/mideast_story_315181601.html

One purpose of the Egyptian draft, which is ignored here, is that it would have triggered UN monitoring and funding in favor of Palestinian children. As explained here by the Egyptian State Information Service:

"Egypt's permanent delegate to the UN ambassador Ahmed Abul Gheit said that Egypt is about to sponsor a draft resolution in the UN General Assembly that would enhance the financial resources available.

"A symposium held Wednesday at the UN headquarters in New York on activating ways to monitor the status and rights of children during armed conflicts has tackled the negative repercussions of the Israeli practices in the occupied Palestinian areas, said Abul Gheit."

http://www.sis.gov.eg/online/html10/o151123p.htm