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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 07:53 AM
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Gaza court sentences man to death
GAZA CITY (Ma'an) -- A military court in the central Gaza Strip sentenced a man to death by hanging on Wednesday, after a judge found him guilty of treason contributing to the death of a Palestinian.

A second man was found guilty of treason and sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.

Both sentences were accepted unanimously by the military panel, but are appealable.

Under Palestinian law, the death penalty must be accepted by the president. On April 15, 2010, however, the government in Gaza executed two men that had been found guilty of collaboration with Israel.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=373658
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 04:56 PM
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1. I wish Gaza - and everywhere - would abolish the DP.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 05:05 PM
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2. well we could start with Texas but you might have an easier time with Gaza n/t
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 06:41 AM
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4. Death by hanging - no jury trial - not even Texas does that
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 07:07 AM by oberliner
The PCHR Gaza has spoken out about this decision.

Will you?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:32 AM
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5.  saying that the death penalty is wrong of course it is
I would have though my feelings on that would have gone without saying, is this execution in Gaza wrong yes it is and for more reasons than just that it is by hanging

now as to my prior comment while Texas has taken hanging off the books as a method for execution but not apparently being mentally challenged is not a reason to stay execution in Texas, Washington state still allows it to remain on its list of 'approved' execution methods
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:39 AM
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6. Hanging is a choice in Washington state
Lethal injection is used unless the inmate under sentence of death chooses hanging as the preferred execution method.

http://www.doc.wa.gov/offenderinfo/capitalpunishment/
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 12:04 PM
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7. yes it is a choice in Washington state but it is still there
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 12:05 PM by azurnoir
it's also on the books in New Hampshire I believe, I was actually more surprised that both of these states still allowed the death penalty
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 12:09 PM
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8. But in Gaza it is not a choice - it is mandatory
See the difference?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 01:17 PM
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11. yes of course I do, would you prefer a more 'humane' method of execution in Gaza?
I would think someone on a presumptively liberal board would condemn execution no matter where it occurs and no matter by what method
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:29 PM
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13. Of course I do
I would think someone on a presumptively liberal board would support the most humane method possible in places that still implement the death penalty, such as Texas and Washington state.

Why else did you bring up the examples of those two states if you don't feel the same way?
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 03:42 PM
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14. I would support no death penalty at all as to 'humane'
from what I have read there are problems with lethal injection in that sometimes it causes a great deal of pain and it takes a prolonged period of time to be 'effective', same with gassing, really I do not know if the 'electric chair' is still used but that too was quite inhumane
you brought up hanging being used in Gaza in answer to a comment of mine concerning the death penalty,being used in Texas as a comparison of Texas was "better?' than Gaza? all in all it stemmed from a comment concerning the death penalty being abolished everywhere, I mentioned hanging still being on the books in the US only because of your own comment
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 04:34 PM
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15. I guess I misunderstood the point you were making then
Not the first time I've made that mistake.
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:54 PM
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16. Would you have a problem with the DP being applied to cases as I described in my previous post
which I quote below

"On a serious note I am generally against the DP especially how it is dispensed today. With that said I could support the DP in cases of the most heinous of crimes like child rapists/molesters/murderers or serial/mass murderers and only when guilt is not just beyond a reasonable doubt but when its beyond any doubt."


Child rapists molesters/murderers are filthy animals that prey on the most helpless in society. The reason I include child molesters/rapists is the damage molesters/rapists cause to the child is irreparable and is akin to murder because the child's innocence and childhood is killed off permanently and usually causes lifelong problems. Child molesters/rapists are also likely to re offend especially absent any strict community control. A friend of mines kid was molested repeatedly by an uncle so I have seen close up the horrible damage it causes.



As far as humane goes I would think if done right lethal injection would be the most humane. If they gave someone a massive overdose of heroin I would think it would be pretty much painless. I have also heard the guillotine is one of the most quick and painless methods of execution. I agree with u that the electric chair is quite inhumane and I think it should be abolished. Gassing could be made much more humane if they did its like anesthesia but instead of giving u just enough to keep u under and pain free as in surgery, for executions they would give u much more until u are dead. There is probably no perfect way but there are certainly more humane ways.
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Dick Dastardly Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 01:31 PM
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12. I would like to see the DP expanded to those driving slow in the fast lane, people who refuse
to use a debit card preferring to hold everyone up by still writing checks in the checkout line, and for a few other such despicable acts or acts of sheer stupidity.


On a serious note I am generally against the DP especially how it is dispensed today. With that said I could support the DP in cases of the most heinous of crimes like child rapists/molesters/murderers or serial/mass murderers and only when guilt is not just beyond a reasonable doubt but when its beyond any doubt.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 11:08 PM
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3. All countries should abolish the death penalty.
I'm not sure Americans have any moral standing to judge other countries on this, though.

I think we could only REALLY do that if THIS country had already abolished capital punishment once and for all.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 12:15 PM
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9. Well, Britain abolished the DP in 1965; and countries can't join the EU if they have the DP
so I feel very free to condemn it everywhere.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 12:48 PM
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10. Death Penalty Phasing Out Worldwide
GENEVA - More than 1,000 activists and experts attending this week's Fourth World Congress Against the Death Penalty in this Swiss city are building a network of cooperation to support local organisations campaigning for human rights in countries that retain capital punishment.

One-third of the world's countries still apply the death sentence, and 2,390 persons were executed in 2008, according to Amnesty International (AI).

Nevertheless, there was marked global progress towards abolition of the death penalty in 2008, said the London-based rights watchdog.

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/02/26-7
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