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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:17 PM
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ENOUGH OF ARAFAT


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Which is why no one can blame Prime Minister Ariel Sharon if he decides it's time, once and for all, to deal with the terrorists in the only language they clearly understand.

As America did with the Taliban.

And Saddam Hussein.

With those terror-loving regimes gone, Saddam sitting in U.S. custody and Osama bin Laden on the run, it's time the terrorist gangs that have targeted Israel get what they deserve: zero tolerance.

Beginning with Yasser Arafat, who remains the single biggest obstacle toward reaching a genuine Middle East peace.

Though his military has made dramatic inroads that have crippled Hamas, Sharon hasn't been able to quell the terrorists entirely. He also was under some political pressure for restraint in the run-up to Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Well, Iraq is now free, as is Afghanistan.

And no one can fault Sharon if he decides that now it's Israel's turn finally to rid itself of the terrorist threat.

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/45399.htm
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An interesting proposition. I will leave it at that.



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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:20 PM
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1. Hear hear!!
(or is it here, here?)
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:23 PM
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2. enough of sharon too
put'em both in the same line-up for the firing squad.
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Gimel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:28 PM
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7. Sorry,
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 03:31 PM by Gimel
There's no capital punishment in Israel. The Palestinians can do what they want. String him up and let the dogs eat him.
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cantwealljustgetalong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:22 PM
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10. pity the dogs...
there is an alternative...:evilgrin:



Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten...

To the family next door, Armin Meiwes seemed the perfect neighbour. He mowed their lawn, repaired their car and even invited them round for dinner.

Other residents in the small German town of Rotenburg also believed there was nothing odd about the 42-year-old computer expert, whose light burned late into the night inside his creaking mansion. Yesterday, however, Meiwes appeared in court charged with killing - and then frying and eating - another man.

In one of the most extraordinary trials in German criminal history, the self-confessed cannibal admitted that he had met a 43-year-old Berlin engineer, Bernd Brandes, after advertising on the internet, and had chopped him up and eaten him.

...

On the evening of March 9, the two men went up to the bedroom in Meiwes' rambling timbered farmhouse. Mr Brandes swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and half a bottle of schnapps before Meiwes cut off Brandes' penis, with his agreement, and fried it for both of them to eat.

...

The cannibal then chopped Mr Brandes into pieces and put several bits of him in his freezer, next to a takeaway pizza, and buried the skull in his garden.

Over the next few weeks, he defrosted and cooked parts of Mr Brandes in olive oil and garlic, eventually consuming 20kg of human flesh before police finally turned up at his door.

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The unprecedented case has proved problematic for German lawyers who discovered that cannibalism is not illegal in Germany.

...

Crucial to the case is a gruesome videotape made by Meiwes of the entire evening, during which Brandes apparently makes clear his consent.

...

After killing Brandes, the German cannibal met five other men who responded to his internet advert, including one from London.

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,2763,1099477,00.html


German 'cannibal' tells of regret...

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Mr Meiwes told investigators he took Mr Brandes back to his home, where Mr Brandes agreed to have his penis cut off, which Mr Meiwes then flambeed and served up to eat together.

Mr Meiwes says he then killed Mr Brandes with his consent - recording the two-hour event on video.

...

He said he believed there were about 800 "cannibals" in Germany.

Prosecutors are seeking a conviction of murder for "sexual satisfaction", as cannibalism is not technically illegal under German law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3230774.stm




pardon me, I do need to go throw up now



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DoctorMyEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:23 PM
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3. Well, Iraq is now free, as is Afghanistan. ????
Maybe in some alternate dimension, but here in reality.......
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:25 PM
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4. what a right wing rag the post has become
that's sad
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:25 PM
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5. Look how resistance in Iraq collapsed when Saddam was captured !
It's bound to work.

Earth to NY Post: no one gives a damn about the corrupt leaders, whether it's Saddam, Sharon, Bush, Blair etc. People fight for their own reasons, which have precious little to do with what goes on at the top. Until you find a REAL settlement to the underlying issues, people will continue to die. While killing Arafat might be some "consolation" as the POSt has it, it will not solve the actual problem, which is that millions of Palestinians have no secure place to live. Throwing one more corpse on the pile will not improve anything. Any other ideas ?
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:26 PM
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6. Put Arafat, Sharon, and Bush on a rocket
And send it to Mars
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:28 PM
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8. Iraq is now free?
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 03:29 PM by Darranar
As is Afghanistan?

By the way, where are Saddam's ties to Al Qaeda?

If killing Arafat and removing his regime will be done in the same way as "regime change" was done in iraq and Afghanistan, I fear to see it happen.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:58 PM
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9. It's the New York Post
The editors suffer from delusions. Just like those at FoxNews. It seems to come with being owned by Murdoch.

The editors of the Jerusalem Post have different, but similar, problem. They're owned by Conrad Black. The effect is the same.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:22 PM
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11. There may be a case for this kind of action
However, as to be expected, one won't find it in anything as simple-minded as the New York Post.

The statement Iraq is free is patently false. Iraq is currently under a hostile occupation of a colonial nature. The Palestinian Territories are also under a hostile occupation that is only partly of a colonial nature. Unlike the US occupation of Iraq, the Israelis can claim legitimately that the occupation is related to security. If there is a comparison between the Palestinian Territories and Iraq, it is that an outside force ridding the people of a poor excuse for a leader won't necessarily solve their problems; it may be nothing more than a pretext for further occupation. That will not solve either Israel's problem or that of the Palestinian people.

Arafat may be held responsible for the attacks on Israeli civilians at least insofar that he is doing nothing to stop them. The question is: can he even if he wanted to? If not, then eliminating him would serve no better purpose than would leaving him where he is. It is a legitimate question whether he has the power to stop the attacks. Would those who are claiming responsibility for these atrocities listen to him if he ordered them to stop? They don't listen to his Prime Minister; why should they listen to him?

Of course, that would suggest that the Israelis would do better to eliminate the leaders of various militant organizations, such as Ahmed Yassin and Abd al-Aziz Rantissi. Unfortunately, others would replace them. In the end, it would solve nothing for the Israelis.

On the other hand, the Israelis could try to negotiate their way out of the West Bank and Gaza. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be one person among the Palestinians strong enough to negotiate a peace with Israel and get the other factions to sign on to it.

If I sound like I am in a pessimistic mood over this today, it's because I am. The solution to the conflict is based on the recognition that there are two nations west of the Jordan and therefore there should be two separate states. Unfortunately, Likud seems stuck on the idea of Greater Israel and Hamas and the other Palestinian militant organizations seem stuck on driving Israel into the sea. Both are unobtainable goals. Those with real power don't understand that.

Killing Arafat or any other specific leader won't change that.
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