PA to hang man for 'collaborating' with Israel

[drdon326]

A Palestinian man was sentenced to death by hanging on Saturday after being found guilty of "collaborating" with Israel. Another three Palestinians were sentenced to prison terms ranging from three years to 10 years on the same charges.

Yusef Hassan Sinwar, 31, of Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip, was convicted by a Palestinian Authority civil court of assisting the IDF in tracking down and killing wanted activists. In passing the death sentence, the first by the PA in two and a half years, the judges noted that he had "undermined the power of resistance of the Palestinian people by serving as a collaborator with the enemy."

Sinwar was arrested in October 2001 by the PA's General Intelligence Force in the Gaza Strip. This is the first time that a Palestinian accused of collaboration with Israel is sentenced to death by hanging. In the past, Palestinians convicted of the same charges were sentenced to death by a firing squad.

Sinwar was one of the four defendants who appeared before the Gaza court. His verdict requires the approval of PA Chairman Yasser Arafat, who over the past three years has refrained from endorsing executions, following protests from human rights organizations.


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1097915022726&p=1078027574121

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*NOW* they suddenly have courts......what a joke.
Hmmmmm....suddenly quiet at Amnesty,ICJ and at the UN.


yep.....give them a country.

[DuctapeFatwa]

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[drdon326]

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I can't wait.


On edit: HERSHEL,BLITZ,LURKING DEM, RINI, MIKE GALOS, YANG ,MUDDLE, GP AND GIMEL used to be your favorite infidel but since there not here , i guess i'll do in a pinch.

B-)

[DuctapeFatwa]

3. I know it will be a challenge to beat the guy who implies that I flew the

planes into the WTC, but if anybody can do it, you can!

[drdon326]

4. My favorite..."In Defense of Holocaust Deniers"

I dont get to read that everyday.lol

[Aidoneus]

10. That's actually an interesting argument

DTF has intrigued me with it since I had first seen it. The psychology of the point is sound, as being unable to believe something so awful--thus recognizing it as awful in the FWIW Catagory.. even if they are still fucking idiots by me, the point is most interesting.

[DuctapeFatwa]

14. Thanks, Aidoneus. I was inspired by people of today

who refuse to believe anything not echoed by CNN/FOX, who construct the most elaborate coincidence theories that defy all common sense because there are some places they "just can't go"

[Violet_Crumble]

5. How do I do a testimonial?

Mine will be nowhere near as exciting and sensationalist as drdon's will be, but I can add a bit of bland to anything. Anyway, I don't know if mine's a testimonial or whether you should create a suggestions section. Can you please create a Title Only version of yr blog for folk who only read the titles of what you write? It'll provide amusement as seeing they never read anything but the title, they won't notice the difference and it'll be pretty cute when they say things like: 'I don't get to read that everyday!' ;)

btw, I'm jealous of anyone who is suspected of flying the planes into the WTC. All I could muster was a rather insipid accusation that I celebrated it...

Violet...

[DuctapeFatwa]

13. It's easy - you can post em here, PM me, email me, post em in comments

there, whichever you prefer.

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[Liberal Classic]

23. May I be an infidel, too?

I'm starting to feel neglected.

[JohnLocke]

19. Can I be on?

I'd be an honor.

[DuctapeFatwa]

20. of course! I'd be delighted to have a testimonial from you

post it here, there, PM, email, carrier pigeon, as you choose!

[Aidoneus]

6. A fair judgement by the relevant contexts (not all of which I recognize)

People died by of these traitors. The same would be done here, if that means anything to you. (it does not to me, but..)

[drdon326]

7. Oh....this is good......"A fair judgement "

You support , as a self admitted progressive , THE DEATH PENALTY no less from some kangaroo court brought to justice by terrorists groups.

Good to know youre a big proponent of THE DEATH PENALITY thruout the world no matter what the circumstances.

If you can support this travesty of justice, *I KNOW* you will have
noooo problem Israel considering the DEATH penalty for TERRORISTS WHO
ACTUALLY COMMIT MURDER.( israel doesnt have the DP, I KNOW)


at what point should I take that shovel out of your hands?
unbelieveable



nice edit after the fact YOU stated your support of this and then
SHAMELESSLY BACKPEDDLED when called on it.

[Violet_Crumble]

8. It helps to read the entire title of a post...

y'now, the bit that says 'by the relevant contexts...'

That way you won't end up typing random words in CAPS that aren't what Aidoneus said at all...

btw, considering you support the extrajudicial killing of Palestinians, can we assume that yr abhorrence over the death penalty is only because only Israelis should be killing Palestinians and those killed should NEVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be given their day in court? Where's the outrage over the collaborators who were given the death penalty in France at the end of WWII?

I just thought I'd add a nice edit for you at this point ;)

Violet...

[Aidoneus]

9. I decided to clarify myself

I do that a lot and clarity is a big thing with me. It's not so much backpeddling as it is the expression of an internal argument. What the fuck are you talking about "being called on it"?!--to the best of my knowledge, I had completed all edits on the post before anybody even read it at this ungodly hour. On edit: according to the timestamps, my last edit was nearly a half-hour before your original post and an hour before your final edit, so.. Such basic facts are obviously found, please do not embarass yourself by going out on such a flimsy limb. The limb is my home because I am comfortable there and see to it first that it remains sturdy enough, while others do so as a clumsy shortcut to falling towards the ground below (Your post above: Exhibit B).

A self-admitted ... wait, huh? I don't really call myself anything, because I have yet to actually settle on something to hang above me. The weight of a thousand banners is too much of a burden, anything less would be a lie, so I don't really bother with the matter.

The actual edits--"by the relevant contexts" & "(not all of which I recognize)"--are fully explained below. They make reference to a longer response on things I didn't feel like writing on at the time, though I expected a question on.

In the contexts of statism & nationalism, revolution, and occupation, it is a perfectly fair judgement and one that would be carried out in almost any language (that last bit may not be an argument in favour). Now, being much a fan of statism & nationalism as I'm not, those arguments do not appeal to me so the official process and authorities are not those that I may recognize. Under the conditions as they exist, this man committed an act that does harm to the people around him, in league with the enemy that causes incredible harm to those around him; it is a natural inclination for those to desire bringing harm upon collaborators in response.

I do indeed support the 'death penalty' in some contexts, especially under certain conditions of revolution and occupation, though not as an enforcement of established statist policy (as a general rule, once an idea has become an institution even the best of ideas is well on its way towards becoming a monsterous obscenity, if not outright). At no point do I claim the mantle of pacifist. However, "no matter what the circumstances" is total bullshit and it comes as no surprise to me the lies you try to place onto my tongue (or fingers, in this case) in place of what I do, in fact, say and think.

[drdon326]

11. Great post....well written and thought out..

but you umbrage in the last sentence was not MY putting "lies" into
your fingers but what you posted.

Comparing your previous post and this post is amazing in its different style and depth of thought. hmmmmmm....

lol

[Aidoneus]

12. Actually, as VC pointed out..

Most of the points you go out of your way to emphasize were not taken from what I had written out previously, nor just now, nor are they what I think on the matters in general, therefore referring to them as a 'lie' is as fair as the ruling above.

...Or rather, far moreso, because I actually lean more towards firing squads than hangings or the other, more elaborate death rituals. Hangings, electrocutions, lethal injections, etc.. all have an air of overly elaborate pageantry to them that I find rather disturbing. Other matters, such as the unquestioned legitimacy of the institution carrying the acts through, stick out to me as the plainest of hypocrisies, but that goes back to a matter I had referred to above and would take too long to decently go into. Firing squads are more efficient and can be carried out quickly and under more flexible circumstances, in the field or also as a spectacle for a crowd of witnesses.

The style is the same, but I wrote the first one in the interest of keeping things short, wrongly assuming that what was written could not be mistaken without a dedicated effort. I should have known better and assumed that such an effort was inevitable, though I suspect the follow-ups may be taken just as 'well'.

[bemildred]

15. Funniest thing I've read today.

"style and depth of thought"

From an enthusiastic verbal bomb thrower.
Will you learn me to write more deeper and better too?

[DuctapeFatwa]

18. Whoa! Great Quote! I may have this embroidered* on something

"The weight of a thousand banners is too much of a burden, anything less would be a lie"

Adioneus

(in Arabic calligraphy, of course)

[drdon326]

16. hmmmm...."Son of executed female collaborator says was tortured "

The son of the first known Palestinian woman to be executed as an Israeli collaborator Sunday said gunmen tortured him until he invented a story about his mother's involvement in a militant's death.

Ikhlas Khouli, a 35-year-old mother of seven, was shot dead Saturday after being seized from her home in the West Bank city of Tul Karm.

Bakir Khouli, 17, lifted up his T-shirt at his one-room house in Tul Karm on Sunday to reveal black and blue marks he said were made by electrical wires shortly before his mother was killed.

"They accused me of helping Israeli intelligence," he told The Associated Press. "When they started beating me with this wire, I confessed and invented a story."

Dozens of suspected Palestinian collaborators have been killed since the beginning of a Palestinian uprising in September 2000, but Khouli was the first woman reported executed.


http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=201353

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I find that hard to believe.

[drdon326]

17. And the worst..Militants kill teenage girl for 'collaborating' with Israel

Palestinian militants shot a teenage girl in the head, killing her for "collaborating" with Israel, Palestinian sources said on Friday. Israel Radio reported that they subsequently released her brother, who was also abducted a few days ago from the West Bank city of Tul Karm on suspicion of aiding Israel.

They said 18-year old Rajah Ibrahim was the second female in a week to be killed by members of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, who are affiliated with Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement.

The sources said she had provided information to Israeli security services that allowed troops to track down and kill the group's Tul Karm area commander, Raed Karmi, in January.

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=203465&contrassID=1&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=0

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Funny how kofi and HRW didnt comment on this.

[Djinn]

21. I don't know whether you're just ignorant don

or whether you're deliberately misrepresenting UN/Amnesty/HRW's position.

ALL of them have denounced - repeatedly - the extrajudicial murder of collaborators, suspected and otherwise.

I do however find it strange that you have a problem with extra-judicial murder when performed by Palestinians but you find great joy in it when carried out by the IDF.

Why is that?

"If you can support this travesty of justice, *I KNOW* you will have noooo problem Israel considering the DEATH penalty for TERRORISTS WHO ACTUALLY COMMIT MURDER.( israel doesnt have the DP, I KNOW)"

and likewise if you support the assasination of alledged (don't care how "obvious" it is without a trial and conviction you are generally referred to as an alleged crim in a liberal democracy) terrorist then you can't have a problem with the assasination of collaborators (who cause the deaths of and arrest and detention without trial of Palestinians) without being a massive hypocrite

[drdon326]

22. kick

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[Nicky Scarfo]

24. And if Israel caught it's citizens collaborating with the PLO?

To assist Fatah in tracking down and killing Israelis, what would Israel do? My guess is those Israeli collaborators would be executed.