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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 08:26 PM
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Suspected collaborator killed in Bethlehem
In the second killing of its kind in Bethlehem in less than a month, Fatah gunmen on Monday executed a young Palestinian man suspected of collaboration with Israel.

The victim was identified as 19-year-old Jad al-Hindi.

His family said he was abducted late Sunday night by masked gunmen belonging to Fatah's armed wing, the Aksa Martyrs Brigades.

Hindi's body was discovered in an open field early Monday morning.

A Palestinian Authority security source in the city said the man had been shot in the head 12 times. He said Hindi was the 14 suspected collaborator to be killed in the Bethlehem area in the past four years.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1102307126867&p=1101615860782
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What ?? no UN resolution ? No ICJ investigation??

Unbelievable.





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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:10 AM
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1. Does anyone .......
care about guy who was murdered as being a "collaborator" without any proof ?

This should be an outrage to every progressive.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:15 PM
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6. Progressives...
don't engage in selective outrage. (eg. Shedding crocodile tears only when Palestinians are killed by Palestinains)

At least, not when they are thinking clearly.

Either way, it's pretty damn dangerous being an accused traitor in a war zone. For that matter, it's pretty damn dangerous to be in a war zone eating at the table also. Oh, the selective outrage!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:31 PM
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8. Shades of Lynne Cheney
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 07:32 PM
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10. Don't you know...
outing someones ID is against the rules. ;)
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 06:10 AM
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2. Dupe
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 06:11 AM by drdon326
.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:04 PM
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3. Judging from the huge outcry, I'd say the answer is "no".
Gee, Palestinians killed a Palestinian. Had some kid running in front of Hamas militants to provide them with cover been killed by IDF troops, it would have made headlines. There are no accidental deaths at Jewish hands, nor innocent deaths at Palestinian hands

Only Jewish bullets count. Muslim and Palestinian bullets must be blessed, and never kill civilians, nor do they hit innocent targets.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:16 PM
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4. I've posted I dont know how many "collaborator" murders...
and no one ever condemns it.

But if israel takes out some terrorist scum, brace yourself.
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Bono71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:07 PM
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5. If you posted that a gang murderer was about to
receive the death penalty in Texas, after a trial and a lenghty appeallate process that took over ten years, then you would have an outcry.

But, FYI, its ok when peolpe are summarily executed by other "governments" or political movements when its to stop the Evil Zionists.

By the way, for what its worth, I am against the death penalty.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:19 PM
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 10:47 PM
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11. Ouch....
nah.....i tend to let the article speak for itself.
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dems4israel Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:25 PM
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14. Offbase
It is not "barbaric" to point out that certain Palestinian Terrorist
organizations don't care for human life.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:48 PM
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16. Who are you quoting?
"barbaric" :shrug:

Your confusion aside, it's crystal clear (and has been for some time) that these crocodile tears are not shed out of sympathy for the victims. Nor are the rhetorical targets of the poster limited to "Palestinian Terrorist organizations".

Actually, given the history of the poster, it's more likely that this is kvetching over a potential collaborator being caught at all.
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dems4israel Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:16 AM
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18. My Kvetch about the "Kvetching"
"Kvetching" like the yiddishism its sad to see any innocent people being killed but the Soldiers refusing to serve in Israel are not put to the death and Vanunu was not put to death the Palestinians clearly lack a modern legal system that needs to be fixed for Palestinian society to move on and progress.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:21 PM
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13. "no one ever condemns it." ??
"collaborator" murders..."

come on, no one, not once .....?

collaborators, I favor a tribunal myself ....
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:36 PM
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15. number 6 ??
you could have been the first.....


but regretably ....you didnt either.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 12:03 AM
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17. well I hereby condemn the murder of collaborators ....
but who cares ...?

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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:57 PM
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19. no-one ever condemns it?
speaking out your arse again drdon?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 06:33 PM
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9. to paraphrase aquart
Good Israel. Evil Palestinians.



Done.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 11:17 PM
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12. to quote another poster ...
"well because we have one set of laws for citizens of Israel and we have a second set of rules for an enemy society that wants to destroy us, that we are war with."

enemy society = Evil Palestinians
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:58 AM
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21. tsk tsk tsk....number 6 keep the quotations within context..
the quote was part of an explanation as to why israeli civil laws are not applied to the palestenians..it actually has nothing to do with the origin of this thread. In terms of application of israeli law the PA territory is not part of israel.

The palestenians judicial system is not exactly run on democratic/civil lines, something which they themselves have devised. which has absolutly nothing to do with israel or the occupation, One of the aspects of oslo was to get them started on preparing their own society for statehood including the various institutions required.

the killing of "collabaroters" which also includes family/tribe arguments as well as the normal gang turf wars is an illustration of part of their failure to police themselves. Now obviously at this point, their society is in shambles and is now apparently run by gangs in many areas...but that doesnt prevent simply denounciation of these killings.

Its a non partisan issue, societys should not allow nor accept such killings no matter what side of the line one sits. I'm sure the family of those killed would like to see it stopped as well.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:44 PM
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22. yet oddly
In terms of application of israeli law the PA territory is not part of israel.

in terms of providing taxpayer funded infrastructure and Israel's sons and daughters to keep settlers protected it IS part of Israel
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:25 PM
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23. PA territory is not part of israel
the settlements as of today are disputed territory....definitly not part of the PA territory....there is no confusion over here with the various jurisdictions
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 07:53 PM
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24. so why are they paid for with Israeli taxes?
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:06 PM
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25. now i understand.....
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 08:08 PM by pelsar
the settlements are considered israeli territory, the PA has enclaves of its own, hence the areas of A,B and C, which define each area.

that was the temp definition from oslo and thats the way it stands today. So where the settlements are, until negotiations say different are part of israel....
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QueerJustice Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:05 AM
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20. SOTE
Scum of The Earth
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