4 Killed in Gaza Checkpoint Bombing

[Scurrilous]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041212/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians

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"Palestinian militants blew up an Israeli army base at the Gaza-Egypt crossing Sunday by sneaking more than a ton of explosives through a tunnel, killing four Israeli soldiers and wounding at least 10 — the largest Palestinian attack in the month since Yasser Arafat's death.

Shooting broke out after the blast, which collapsed several structures at the crossing and damaged others. Israel said the attack jeopardizes peace moves and demanded Palestinian action to stop the militants.


"As of now we have at least 10 people who were hurt, four dead and the efforts for the rescue operation still continue," said Raanan Gissin, a top aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, in an interview with Associated Press Television News.

The military said one soldier was missing, apparently trapped under rubble."

[dems4israel]

1. so much for Palestinian "non-violence"

the wave of homicide bombings mortar and rocket attacks continue to kill the peace process

[ashiebr]

2. By any definition....

...the killing of armed soldiers is not terrorism. Regrettable, but different to, say, a a bomb in a market-place. Try getting the Israelis to admit the bombing of the King David Hotel was terrorism.

Strange how the Israelis already know it was caused by "more than a ton" of explosives brought in "through a tunnel".

[drdon326]

4. Logically.....

when militants do NOT discriminate between armed forces and innocents and murder both,as WITH the WAR CRIMES committed by hamas et al, then it is TERRORISM.

[newyorican]

6. Well....

That statement turns around nicely:

when militants Israeli soldiers do NOT discriminate between armed forces and innocents and murder both,as WITH the WAR CRIMES committed by hamas the IDF et al, then it is TERRORISM.

One small correction, when soldiers die as a result of enemy action in a war zone, they are killed in action, not murdered.

Damn that logic... ;)

[drdon326]

8. Not even worth commenting on...

if you believe and you do ,that the IDF does not discriminate between
the two and intentionally shoots kids as a policy , then there really isnt to much to say.


on edit...as careful as i tried, i wasnt careful enough for some...so let me re-phrase it...

when militants do NOT discriminate between armed forces and innocents and INTENTIONALLY murder both AS A ESTABLISHED PRACTICE AND POLICY,as WITH the WAR CRIMES committed by hamas et al, then it is TERRORISM.

[ashiebr]

9. So this action by militants...............

.....was clearly not terrorism.

You're on a roll Doc. Keep it up.

[drdon326]

10. Dance like theres no tomorrow....

cause as far as i'm concerned , it is terrorism.

I got it up....babe.

[ashiebr]

12. No, according to your other posts............

....it isn't terrorism.

Are you changing your mind?

[Englander]

11. "I'd have gotten away with it,if it weren't for that pesky logic..."

Terrorists are anyone who US/Israel say they are.

[QueerJustice]

15. ,,,,and the IRA

....are freedom fighters??


TERRORISTS....

[newyorican]

17. Wrong again...

Sinn Fein is a political party in Ireland.

Behind the Mask

[QueerJustice]

18. just like the PLO..

Is a political party???



:eyes:

[Englander]

20. Now we are making progress......

If you believe that the PIRA,(the ANC as well,by your logic)are "terrorwists",then why not Irgun? What's the difference?

And why are "terrorists" allowed to be part of the Government of Northern Ireland?

Membership of the Northern Ireland Assembly

This page contains details of the MLAs who were elected to the Assembly on 26 November 2003.
http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/members/membership03.htm

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[Forkboy]

24. thousands of attacks daily?

I've told you a million time not to exaggerate.

And you seem to calling Englander a terrorist apologist,is that correct?

[Djinn]

25. thousands of attacks daily???

and some people wonder why their credibility is doubted - who exactly are you calling a terrorist apologist queerjustice

[Englander]

27. Way to go,dude....

revealing your inner "liberal"...

[Forkboy]

28. The mods should let posts like that stand

It's rare to see such a shining example of idiocy.

[Englander]

29. Of course,the poster was being ironic...

& post-modern,& entertained us all with his pitch-perfect impression
of a fundie,racist,wing-nut!!

:eyes: :crazy: :eyes:

[number6]

13. ditto !

;)

[ashiebr]

7. So the King David Hotel....

...bombing was terrorism then! Well that's the first time anyone has admitted it. Well done Doc.

[QueerJustice]

14. Even tho almost all killed were...

....fellow arabs and Beduin...Guess the gonna be called collaborators.....The one that was buried with an Israeli flag was arab ...not even Beduin.....


.....all of em IDF hero`s ......

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[QueerJustice]

19. your words....

`` Almost as if to say, 'Haha, they weren't even Jews!'``

certainly not mine....as I said...



Hero`s ALL of em.....

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[newyorican]

26. Wow...

Someones panties must be severely wadded.

[Scurrilous]

3. Update:

5 IDF soldiers killed in Gaza tunnel blast

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/513460.html

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"Five Israel Defense Forces soldiers were killed and six wounded in the Gaza Strip when a booby-trapped tunnel blew up under an army outpost near Rafah on Sunday.

Of the injured, one was seriously wounded, four were moderately wounded and one lightly wounded. The soldiers, who were all from the Bedouin reconnaissance battalion, killed one armed Palestinian who participated in the assault."

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"The attack began at about 5:30 P.M., when a bomb went off under the JVT outpost, located some 200 meters east of the Rafah crossing. The explosion, which destroyed the eastern part of the outpost, killed two soldiers and buried a third under the rubble; it also caused most of the injuries. The third soldier was later reported dead.

Immediately afterward, two armed Palestinians penetrated the outpost from the west and shot and killed two other soldiers. Soldiers returned fire, killing one of the Palestinians, a Fatah operative. His companion, a Hamas operative, escaped, but was apparently wounded. Hamas said he escaped with a weapon belonging to one of the soldiers."

[Paleocon]

5. May the circle be unbroken....

Sad....

What happens when neither side blinks first?