I Was Right To Shoot 13-Yr-Old Child

[itaintoveryet]

the article speaks for itself.

http://www.rense.com/general60/13yy.htm

'I Was Right To Shoot
13-Yr-Old Child'
Radio Exchange Contradicts Army Version Of Gaza Killing
By Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
The Guardian - UK
12-12-4


An Israeli army officer who repeatedly shot a 13-year-old Palestinian girl in Gaza dismissed a warning from another soldier that she was a child by saying he would have killed her even if she was three years old.

The officer, identified by the army only as Captain R, was charged this week with illegal use of his weapon, conduct unbecoming an officer and other relatively minor infractions after emptying all 10 bullets from his gun's magazine into Iman al-Hams when she walked into a "security area" on the edge of Rafah refugee camp last month.

A tape recording of radio exchanges between soldiers involved in the incident, played on Israeli television, contradicts the army's account of the events and appears to show that the captain shot the girl in cold blood.

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[drdon326]

1. Listen here , Aido....or whoever

"rense" dont cut it.

[itaintoveryet]

3. look again

it points to an article in the Guardian or is that not acceptable either ?

[Forkboy]

4. What did you think about the article Don?

Funny,hearing you complain about sources lol.

[drdon326]

5. I was joking, Clint

rense is not allowed here unless i'm wrong.

sheeesh.


pee wee

[Forkboy]

6. Yeah,but what did you think of the article from The Gaurdian?

sheesh,indeed.

[drdon326]

7. If its true, then he needs to go to jail....

but i've often noticed ,especially when it comes i/p,

sometimes the truth is not always what it seems and sometimes

the truth takes a while.




Hope that helps, Clint.

[Forkboy]

8. "sometimes the truth takes a while."

Wise words,Pee Wee.Hope we can apply this to other stories as well,not just the ones that portray Israel in a bad light?

[Djinn]

16. except when it's a case

of an "anti-semitic" attack that never actually occurred.....

[idontwantaname]

2. rumor around the campfire of the penalty of killing a palestinian kid...

100 NIS?

is that true?

[pelsar]

9. his career is finished

the real punishment for him is him having his career finished, and in the druz community he now also has an "honor problem".......it goes far deeper than a mear court martial

and just for the record two days later, at a different location, another 13 yr old, ignoring loudspeaker warnings, and warning shots (the commander ordered his soldier not to shoot her) and when she arrived at the gate, she said she had bomb in her bag......

though the commander cocked his gun, looked at her, and decided she was lying. Ordered her to open her bags and there were just school books.

was he right or wrong to trust his instincts (he was born in sweden, perhaps that had an influence on him.....), what if she really did have a bomb?

[number6]

10. WOW real punishment !!

"the real punishment for him is him having his career finished"

Shudder :wow:

oh no not my career, this how we can stop terrorists..
finish thier careers ...

[pelsar]

11. egocentric ?

guess you dont know or understand the druze culture......its not like your western based value system and its very egocentric to believe so.

[Djinn]

17. how do you know what his culture is

because someone currently lives in the US does not give you any background into their ethnicity, religion, ethnic background, beliefs or understanding.

For all you know this poster may have spent his entire life within Druze culture, stop pretending to be the expert on ALL cultures living within Israel Palestine, it's patronising and is making your arguments even weaker

[Paleocon]

13. Maybe we could hire him for Homeland Security....

This way he doesn't have to lose his career.

Actually I think NJ is looking for a Homeland Security czar... The last Israeli National that was appointed to that post didn't work out so well.... ??? !!!

[IndianaGreen]

12. If he had been born in America...

though the commander cocked his gun, looked at her, and decided she was lying. Ordered her to open her bags and there were just school books.

was he right or wrong to trust his instincts (he was born in sweden, perhaps that had an influence on him.....), what if she really did have a bomb?


If the commander had been born in America, he would have shot first and maybe, perhaps, ask questions afterwards. Gun violence is a key component of American culture.

[Djinn]

14. his career versus a 13 year old girls life

yeah seems like a fair trade :puke:

[Djinn]

15. Rense is a load of crap

and as I question people's use of shite like jewishworldreview and frontpagemag I'll do the same here.

This article from the Guardian could easilly have been posted instead.

But the tape recording of the radio conversation between soldiers at the scene reveals that, from the beginning, she was identified as a child and at no point was a bomb spoken about nor was she described as a threat. Iman was also at least 100 yards from any soldier.

The tape also reveals that the soldiers said Iman was headed eastwards, away from the army post and back into the refugee camp, when she was shot.

Watchtower
'It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastward'

Operations room
'Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?'

Watchtower
'A girl of about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death'

Captain R (after killing the girl)
'Anything moving in the zone, even a three-year-old, needs to be killed'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1358173,00.html

No excuse at all - and loosing his career is hardly a just punishment.