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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:53 AM
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Official PA TV: Killing Jews is mandatory
Without committing mass murder against the Jews, the Muslims will never see their “day of resurrection,” a respected Islamic academic taught on official Palestinian Authority television this week.

The message of Dr. Hassan Khater, founder of the Al Quds Encyclopedia, was replayed on PA TV Monday after originally being broadcast on July 13, 2003.

In the televised lecture, Khater explains that according to Islamic myth, “the Hour will not arrive until you fight the Jews.”

“World attention has brought pressure on the PA to change the content of the Friday sermons, in which religious leaders have repeatedly called for the genocide of Jews,” Marcus wrote Monday.

But “the PA has not eliminated the message,” Marcus points out. It “has merely transferred it to another framework.”

“For years, the PA religious establishment has repeatedly portrayed the killing of Jews as a religious necessity. Today, PA TV chose to rebroadcast this same call to genocide as a historical necessity -- this time from a senior PA academic rather than from a religious leader.”

http://www.jnewswire.com/library/article.php?articleid=392

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Lovely

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:56 AM
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1. ah... doesn't this belong in the basement?
peace
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:58 AM
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2. Somebody should call Governor Rendel.
n/t
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:53 AM
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8. Could you please explain that remark- what does Rendel have to do with
this?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:57 AM
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10. I Think The Poster Is Alluding To Rendel's Religion...
I'd like to hear him or her elaborate too...
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:04 AM
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13. That makes 3 of us.
n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:06 AM
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16. Actually, I think the reference was to "PA" n/t
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:10 AM
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I guess I am just a complete moron. PA ( I know the state) but what does
that have to do with it?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:12 AM
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24. The poster made a smart assed remark based upon nothing more
than the subject line of the OP.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:16 AM
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34. Oh I get it now. (Palestine Authority )TV. PA abbrevation of the state.
Yuck, Yuck,Thanks Walt. Never would have thought of that one.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:06 AM
Response to Reply #10
17. Geeze sorry, can anyone give complete answers when it comes to this
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 07:22 AM by Prodemsouth
topic. I guess, Rendel- is he Jewish? If the name does not have a "stein" on the end of it we southerners can't tell.:)
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:09 AM
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3. Almost impossible to find this w/o using a Jewish source, but:
“Kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history and religion. This saves your honour. God is with you.” <6>

Michael Sabbah, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, taught Islamology and Arab philology for decades. According to Shoebat, he hews to Islamic jihad dogma as well. doctrine of Jew-hatred rests on an Islamic foundation well-laid by Sabbah’s predecessors, Bat Ye’or confirms. In the 1970s, the Greek Melkite Archbishop Hilarion Capucci was convicted of gun-running for the Palestine Liberation Organization and deported to Brazil. Shoebat, who joined the PLO in the 1970s, once started a major riot in Beit Sahour at Capucci’s command.

Jerusalem Patriarch Sabbah also promotes Islamic loathing of Jews in Palestinian churches. Following a theological map created in 1983 by the al-Liqa Catholic center and a CJPC pamphlet, “Moslems and Christians on the Road Together,” Sabbah supports the Sabeel “Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center,” whose very name suggests a Christian brand of jihad. <8> In language “stuffed with expressions of compassion, justice, and peace toward and evil Israel,” Sabeel director Naim Ateek refined his perverse jihad ideology, <9> which Palestinian churches now export to the U.S. at every opportunity.

Palestinian Christians behave much like medieval serfs, and function as subservient little dhimmis. But their acceptance of jihad dogma is a futile enterprise, Malik stresses. Even “removing Israel from the equation and satisfying the Palestinians beyond their wildest dreams would not eliminate the violence against non-Muslims inherent in political Islam.” <10>


http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001376.php
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:12 AM
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4. From the article.....
"There are none who love the Jews on the face of the earth:not man, not rock, and not tree everything hates them. … Everything wants vengeance on the Jews, on these pigs on the face of the earth, and the day of our victory, Allah willing, will come,” the sheikh continues."


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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:27 AM
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5. This is official Hamas ideology.
Nothing new here. Genocide has long been their policy.
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:30 AM
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6. What's new is
that 'official Hamas ideology' is now being embraced by the 'moderate' hoping to take over from Arafat in the PA.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. This is more than just hamas....
this is just racism....pure and simple.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:22 AM
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42. How is it racism
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 07:22 AM by Clark2008
Both Arabs and Jews are Semetic.

It may be many awful things, but it's not racist.
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SweetLeftFoot Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:15 AM
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32. Hamas
Hamas has always had a rather bloodthirsty view of the Jews. Which makes one wonder why in f**k Israel supported them in the late 80's and helped them get where they are today.

Riding tigers can be a very tricky business ...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:55 AM
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9. Why should I trust this source?
and why is this in the wrong forum?
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:05 AM
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15. Because the others are in the original Arabic.
n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:07 AM
Response to Reply #15
19. Post a link
Seriously, I cannot trust any Israeli news source. Sorry.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:13 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. Riiiiight....
if you dont like the message, blame the messenger.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:14 AM
Response to Reply #26
28. Give me a mainstream source
Isreali media is quesionable at best.
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:25 AM
Response to Reply #28
44. So, the some 83% of Jews who are Democrats
are to be run out of the Democratic Party because you don't like Israeli media?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:30 AM
Response to Reply #44
47. lol
phew, talk about a leap of 'logic'

don't hurt yourself.

peace
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #47
48. That was an Olympic Gold medal winning leap.....
n/t
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:39 AM
Response to Reply #44
49. Oh someone here is in charge of running Jews out of the Democratic
Party. Wow, this is a busy thread!!!
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #49
51. Apparently, there
is more than one here.

Sad, but, yes, makes for a busy busy busy thread.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:55 AM
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53. Elsie, with due respect, these people posting here are running Jews out
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 08:05 AM by Prodemsouth
of the Democratic Party??!! I am sorry I don't remember Kerry saying anything that could be considered anti- Israel at all- sounded like he was trying his best to out pro Israel Bush. If Jewish people (the highest amount ever to support a Republican President for reelection in quite some time) are offended and identify pro Palestine leftist as controlling the Democratic Party's agenda- and this makes them go to Bush..well I don't know.. (There I will give my own incomplete answers)
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:15 AM
Response to Reply #26
29. drdon326 doesn't need links
to back up his racism... the basement is littered with it... but don't take my word for it go see fer yerself.

peace
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #29
55. Yep
easily verifiable for any who doubt.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #26
54. Riiiiiight
which is how you hide behind the fact that you post from nearly all right wing sources.All one has to do is go to I/P to verify that.

Save it.
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:17 AM
Response to Reply #19
35. Israeli?
It's a Jewish source.

hmmmmm


No difference to you?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:18 AM
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36. JERUSALEM NEWS
Where the fuck is Jerusalem?
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:19 AM
Response to Reply #36
38. In Israel
Thank you
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:19 AM
Response to Reply #38
39. Ergo, Israeli news source
:eyes:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:18 AM
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60. a Gentile-run newsgathering and dissemination service based in Jerusalem
"Jerusalem Newswire is a Gentile-run newsgathering and dissemination service based out of Jerusalem, Israel, that exists to provide users with the top daily news stories culled from a wide variety of Internet sources.

We give you instant access to these reports, which -- as resident Middle East watchers with an accumulated 30 years of exposure to events in the region -- we believe to be the most important and best balanced available. Jerusalem Newswire also publishes its own top stories of the day, together with frequent analyses of, and commentary on, these central issues - as we see them.

You will not have to spend more than 10 minutes of your day on our site. You will not have to wade through long lists of headlines to find the real news. We do all that for you before you even wake up to your day. Visit Jerusalem Newswire, and leave confident that you are informed and up to date with what you really need to know to keep abreast of the land and people that are riveting the attention of the world today."





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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:59 AM
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11. doesn't this belong in a different forum?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:02 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. I dont think so....this is about racism.....
the most un-progressive human trait.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:05 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. From a questionable source
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 07:05 AM by Walt Starr
Sorry, but I can put no trust in this source.

And yes, this is in the wrong forum.
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:06 AM
Response to Reply #14
18. Don't be sorry!
It speaks volumes that you 'can put no trust in this source.'

And, no, this is NOT in the wrong forum ... or do you believe racism is progressive?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:09 AM
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21. This is IP, NOT GD
Sorry, you put this in the wrong forum and I cannot trust Israeli sources due to the nature of the Israeli government.
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:12 AM
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23. DU Rules;

This is in the wrong Forum.

"Due to continuing problems, discussion of Israeli/Palestinian issues is limited to the Israeli/Palestinian Affairs forum, and is governed by a special set of rules which are available in that forum. If a discussion is primarily about U.S. policy in Israeli/Palestinian affairs, it is still allowed in other forums. Discussion of other Middle East issues is also allowed. If a thread is on a different topic, but later goes off-topic and becomes a discussion of Israeli/Palestinian issues, the moderators may move the thread to the Foreign Affairs/National Security forum."
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:13 AM
Response to Reply #23
25. drdon326 thinks he's above the rules
apparently, he's been here loooong enough :crazy:

peace
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:14 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. Excuse me??
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 07:15 AM by drdon326



this article is about RACISM. SHEESH
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:15 AM
Response to Reply #27
31. The article is IP
and belings in that forum, and you DAMN WELL KNOW IT!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #27
33. it's got PA and JEWS in the damn headline
don't play dumb

peace
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #33
37. How does 'JEWS'
belong in the ISRAEL forum?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:20 AM
Response to Reply #37
40. PA + JEWS
i'm sure you'll figure it out...

peace
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:20 AM
Response to Reply #37
41. THE SOURCE IS A RIGHTWING ISRAELI NEWS SOURCE!
That's why!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:22 AM
Response to Reply #41
43. drdon326 favorite kind of source
at least it will enlighten more to the fact :shrug:

peace
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #43
45. Are you questioning
drdon326's (or my, for that matter) credentials as good Democrats?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:30 AM
Response to Reply #45
46. his judgment, yes.
and there is a long history to go by in the basment including breaking the DU rules by posting this silly IP thread in GD.

should we begin posting all the racist remarks by zionist and israeli extremist in GD now, too?

:shrug:

peace
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:40 AM
Response to Reply #46
50. That wasn't the question. Again:
Are you questioning either his or my credentials as good Democrats?

Are you aware that some 83% of Jews voted for Kerry?
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #50
52. i said NO
i was questining HIS judgment.

do you know MOST american jews are against sharon's radical policies?

the good dr. isn't.

peace
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:11 AM
Response to Reply #50
59. Wait a minute according to the New Republic: 25% supported Bush
The article was saying that the Democrats are losing the Jewish vote becasue a host of reason. A more religious attitude by American Jews was lisited as a primary reason.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:10 AM
Response to Reply #45
58. YES!!!!!!!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:09 AM
Response to Reply #37
57. bring it up with the mods
I'd love to see these stories posted where all can see.I'd love for Don to share his views in the light of day.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #33
56. Perhaps he isn't playing
:shrug:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:15 AM
Response to Reply #14
30. "Sorry, but I can put no trust in this source."
Always a wise thought when Don posts.You missed the time he linked to a site explaining why we should vote for Bush.Somehow,coming from someone who claimed to be aroused at the thought of wading into Palestinian funeral with machine guns blazing,I doubt he's all that concerned with what's progressive or not.

And he knows full well this belongs in I/P.



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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:08 AM
Response to Reply #12
20. its about israel and palestine
where the racism is rampant on both sides.

i'm sure once the mods wake up this will be moved.

peace
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. THANK YOU!
Sheesh!
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:18 AM
Response to Original message
61. That kind of ugliness doesn't surprise me in the least...
...wonder how long it'll take for all the "it doesn't belong in GD!" crowd to show up and start spewing, though. And it won't be because they really object to anything other than the content of the post, either.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #61
62. uh huh
we're all racists.

And if you read the rules those stating it doesn't belong in GD are 100% CORRECT! Of course you can always imply the admins are racist like you tried to do about the rest of us :eyes:
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. I don't have to "imply" anything when it comes to YOUR posts...
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 08:26 AM by T Town Jake
...Forky - they speak for themselves.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #64
65. I justposted something specially for you
there's another thread about racism I just posted here in GD.Hope to see you there :hi:
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:34 AM
Response to Reply #65
67. Already spotted it, and replied...
... :hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #67
68. I noticed....your concern for ugliness and racism was noticably absent
:hi: indeed.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #64
66. One can do a search on both my posts and dons
and yes,there sure as hell do speak for themselves Jakey.
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #61
63. Cool....the 1st deleted post!!
So,anyone who critises Israel=anti-s.....

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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 08:49 AM
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69. Locking
Per I/P guidelines

Lithos
I/P Moderator
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