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Resolution_242 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:19 PM
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The USE of PALESTINIAN CHILDREN in the AL-AQSA INTIFADA
Edited on Sun May-08-05 09:21 PM by Resolution_242
The Use of PALESTINIAN CHILDREN in the AL-AQSA INTIFADA
Justus Reid Weiner

Executive Summary

Watching the television coverage of the daily Palestinian riots, known as the Al-Aqsa intifada, one is immediately struck by the near total absence of adults. Indeed, most of those hurling Molotov cocktails and stones are teenagers; many are even younger. Intoxicated by the challenge of becoming a hero, lacking the maturity to calculate the dangers they are assuming, these young people are easily motivated to place themselves in harm's way.

Since the recent disturbances began, media reports have often highlighted instances in which Palestinian children have been killed or injured by Israeli troops or policemen. These reports have generated much criticism of Israeli policies, although few in the Western world have thought through the chaos they see on the news to consider whose interests are served by the violence. Even fewer have access to the information necessary to place in legal and historical context these weeks of death and disorder.

>The appearance of Palestinian children in these riots, it will be demonstrated, is not accidental. The Palestinian Authority has Intentionally mobilized Palestinian children to man the front line in its struggle against Israel, frequently using them as shields to protect Palestinian gunmen. This mobilization of Palestinian youth has, moreover, been facilitated by the long-term impact of Palestinian Authority (PA) curricula, government-controlled media, and summer camp programs, which indoctrinated the youth for armed confrontation with Israel even prior to the current crisis.<

The utilization of children in armed conflicts has been increasingly condemned by the international community. It is barred by the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child and recent UN Security Council Resolution 1261, which specifically described the use of children as soldiers as a "violation of international law."

Moreover, the Palestinian leadership, in a classic case of bad faith, accuses Israel of committing human rights violations for the fatalities while evading its own responsibility for the Orchestrated Appearance of Children at the Front Lines of the conflict. This constitutes a cynical exploitation of human rights concerns. While the Palestinian Authority is not formally bound by international human rights conventions, it nonetheless is required by the Oslo agreements, which PA Chairman Yasser Arafat signed, to honor "internationally accepted norms of human rights and the rule of law."2

This study examines the causes of this phenomenon and its repercussions. In particular, it offers suggestions to protect Palestinian children from the physical and other dangers inherent in politically and religiously motivated street violence"

Creating Martyrs for the Media

The visuals of a bleeding Palestinian child surrounded by screaming relatives all but obviate the need for most people to consider why and how the child was in harm's way in the first instance...."


The great Bulk at:

http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp441.htm
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:25 PM
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1. And has it stopped Israel?
Or mobilized world opinion for the Palestinians?

No.

So perhaps it's more like Palestinian children grow up faster than US ones do, and react to soldiers shooting them accordingly.
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Resolution_242 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:28 PM
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2. Actually "Yes" it has
Edited on Sun May-08-05 09:29 PM by Resolution_242
indeed mobilized World Opinion for the Palestinians.

EXACTLY what they intended with the CYNICAL Child-sacrificing intifada.
Attack the Israelis and make them defend themselves .. and then cry "Look at those terrible, well armed Israelis killing us".

Not only mobilized world opinion but serves as 'excellent' tho tawdry anti-Israel message board fodder for those so inclined. (see some headlines here)


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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:31 PM
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3. No it hasn't
There is still no nation of Palestine.

And many Palestinians are still living in poverty in the refugee camps set up half a century ago
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Resolution_242 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:35 PM
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4. Wrong on World opinion as I showed.. Right on "No Palestine"
Edited on Sun May-08-05 09:39 PM by Resolution_242
And uh. .. who is responsible for the fact there is "No Palestine"?

Who rejected the 1948 partition and every offer since?

Who put the Palestinians in refugee Camps and kept them there denying them citizenship and land ownership so that they could be used as pawns in a cynical/forever game against the Jewish State.

Who?

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:39 PM
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5. There have been no reasonable offers
Sorry, but a bunch of isolated islands of Palestinians within Israel, with no access to water, and crisscrossed by Israeli roads and patrols, is not a viable state.

Here's a fact Jack...whatever 'side' you're on...until there are 2 nations there..both viable...there will be no peace.

It's a simple as that.
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Resolution_242 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:44 PM
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6. So .. you cannot answer ANY of the above
That world opinion has swung even more for the Palestinians since the Cynical Arafat started Intifada.

That The Arabs rejected the 1948 Partition or we wouldn't be where we are now.

That the Arabs have kept other Arabs (aka 'Palestinians') in Refugee Camps, not Israel.

You keep sliding buddy as the points go down one by one.

anhd uh .. another thing

Please explain to the board why there was NO 'Palestine' (and no 'Palestinians' for that matter) between 1948 and 1967 when Jordan Occupied the WB and Egypt Gaza?

And who's fault is that?

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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:55 PM
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7. Deal or Die
That's the choice Israel has.

The only choice.

Like it or not.

I don't intend to argue nonsense with you.

So I'm giving you the bottom line up front.

It'll save us both time.


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Resolution_242 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:58 PM
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8. Still no answers
Edited on Sun May-08-05 10:01 PM by Resolution_242
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While I've answered/rebutted all of your red herrings and challenged you to answer mine.

Anyone else?

Why No Palestine between 1948 and 1967?

And why was the PLO created in 1964?

Who and what were they going to 'Liberate'?

Who has used Child Sacrifice as a cynical PR Tool?

Who rejected the 1948 Partition and put us where we are now?

Who kept the 'Palestinians' in Refugeee Camps?

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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:08 PM
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9. you should check your facts
Who ran the Palestinians out of their villages ?

Who plows down their houses ?

Who steals their land ?

Who builds walls around em ?
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Resolution_242 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:10 PM
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10. Another Non-answer.. BUT.. I Will answer You [too]
Edited on Sun May-08-05 10:18 PM by Resolution_242
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"Who ran the Palestinians out of their villages"

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"The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, THEY ABANDONED THEM, FORCED THEM TO EMIGRATE AND TO LEAVE THEIR HOMELAND, imposed upon them a political and ideological blockade and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live in Eastern Europe, as if we were condemmed to change places with them; they moved out of their ghettos and we occupied similar ones. The Arab States succeeded in scattering the Palestinian people and in destroying their unity. They did not recognize them as a unified people until the States of the world did so, and this is regrettable".

- Abu Mazen (ever hear of him?), from the article titled: "What We Have Learned and What We Should Do", published in Falastin el Thawra, the official journal of the PLO, of Beirut, in March 1976

...

"The Arab streets are curiously deserted and, ardently following the poor example of the more moneyed class there has been an exodus from Jerusalem too, though not to the same extent as in Jaffa and Haifa."

- London Times, May 5, 1948



"The refugees were confident that their absence would not last long, and that they would return within a week or two. Their leaders had promised them that the Arab armies would crush the 'Zionist gangs' very quickly and that there was no need for panic or fear of a long exile."

- Monsignor George Hakim, Greek Catholic Bishop of Galilee, in the Beirut newspaper Sada al Janub, August 16, 1948



"Of the 62,000 Arabs who formerly lived in Haifa not more than 5,000 or 6,000 remained. Various factors influenced their decision to seek safety in flight. There is but little doubt that the most potent of the factors were the announcements made over the air by the -Higher Arab Executive, urging the Arabs to quit.. . . It was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades."

- The London weekly Economist, October 2, 1948



"It must not be forgotten that the Arab Higher Committee encouraged the refugees' flight from their homes in Jaffa, Haifa, and Jerusalem."

- Near East Arabic Broadcasting Station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949



"This wholesale exodus was due partly to the belief of the Arabs, encouraged by the boasting of an unrealistic Arab press and the irresponsible utterances of some of the Arab leaders that it could be only a matter of some weeks before the Jews were defeated by the armies of the Arab States and the Palestinian Arabs enabled to re-enter and retake possession of their country."

- Edward Atiyah (then Secretary of the Arab League Office in London) in The Arabs (London, 1955), p. 183



"The mass evacuation, prompted partly by fear, partly by order of Arab leaders, left the Arab quarter of Haifa a ghost city...By withdrawing Arab workers their leaders hoped to paralyze Haifa.".

- Time,
May 3, 1948, p. 25



The Arab exodus, initially at least, was encouraged by many Arab leaders, such as Haj Amin el Husseini, the exiled pro-Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem, and by the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine. They viewed the first wave of Arab setbacks as merely transitory. Let the Palestine Arabs flee into neighboring countries. It would serve to arouse the other Arab peoples to greater effort, and when the Arab invasion struck, the Palestinians could return to their homes and be compensated with the property of Jews driven into the sea.

- Kenneth Bilby, in New Star in the Near East (New York, 1950), pp. 30-31



I do not want to impugn anybody but only to help the refugees. The fact that there are these refugees is the direct consequence of the action of the Arab States in opposing Partition and the Jewish State. The Arab States agreed upon this policy unanimously and they must share in the solution of the problem,

- Emil Ghoury, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee, the official leadership of the Palestinian Arabs, in the Beirut newspaper, Daily Telegraph, September 6, 1948



The Arab States encouraged the Palestine Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies.

- Falastin
(Jordanian newspaper), February 19, 1949



We will smash the country with our guns and obliterate every place the Jews seek shelter in. The Arabs should conduct their wives and children to safe areas until the fighting has died down.

- Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said,
quoted in Sir Am Nakbah ("The Secret Behind the Disaster") by Nimr el Hawari, Nazareth, 1952

....


"The Arab governments told us: Get out so that we can get in. So we got out, but they did not get in."

- from the Jordan daily Ad Difaa, September 6, 1954



"The Arab civilians panicked and fled ignominiously. Villages were frequently abandoned before they were threatened by the progress of war."

- General Glubb Pasha,
in the London Daily Mail on August 12, 1948



"The Arab exodus from other villages was not caused by the actual battle, but by the exaggerated description spread by Arab leaders to incite them to fight the Jews"

- Yunes Ahmed Assad,
refugee from the town of Deir Yassin, in Al Urdun, April 9, 1953



" fled in spite of the fact that the Jewish authorities guaranteed their safety and rights as citizens of Israel."

- Monsignor George Hakim, Greek Catholic Bishop of Galilee,
according to Rev. Karl Baehr, Executive Secretary of the American Christian Palestine Committee, New York Herald Tribune, June 30, 1949



"The Arabs did not want to submit to a truce they rather preferred to abandon their homes, their belongings and everything they possessed in the world and leave the town. This is in fact what they did."

- Jamal Husseini, Acting Chairman of the Palestine Arab Higher Committee, told to the United Nations Security Council, quoted in the UNSC Official Records (N. 62), April 23, 1948, p. 14



"the military and civil authorities and the Jewish representative expressed their profound regret at this grave decision . The Mayor of Haifa made a passionate appeal to the delegation to reconsider its decision"

- The Arab National Committee of Haifa, told to the Arab League, quoted in The Refugee in the World, by Joseph B. Schechtman, 1963

.......

" The existence of these refugees is a direct result of the Arab States' opposition to the partition plan and the reconstitution of the State of Israel. The Arab states adopted this policy unanimously, and the responsibility of its results, therefore is theirs.
...The flight of Arabs from the territory allotted by the UN for the Jewish state began immediately after the General Assembly decision at the end of November 1947. This wave of emigration, which lasted several weeks, comprised some thirty thousand people, chiefly well-to-do-families."

- Emil Ghory, secretary of the Arab High Council, Lebanese daily Al-Telegraph, 6 Sept 1948



"Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave. Only a few months separated our call to them to leave and our appeal to the United Nations to resolve on their return."

- Haled al Azm, the Syrian Prime Minister in 1948-49,
The Memoirs of Haled al Azm, (Beirut, 1973), Part 1, pp. 386-387



>>>>"Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of refugees... while it is we who made them to leave... We brought disaster upon... Arab refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to leave... We have rendered them dispossessed... We have accustomed them to begging... We have participated in lowering their moral and social level... Then we exploited them in executing crimes of murder, arson, and throwing bombs upon... men, women and children - all this in service of political purposes..."<<<<

- Khaled al Azm, Syria's Prime Minister after the 1948 war



"As early as the first months of 1948 the Arab League issued orders exhorting the people to seek a temporary refuge in neighboring countries, later to return to their abodes in the wake of the victorious Arab armies and obtain their share of abandoned Jewish property."

- bulletin of The Research Group for European Migration Problems, 1957


One morning in April 1948, Dr. Jamal woke us to say that the Arab Higher Committee (AHC), led by the Husseinis, had warned Arab residents of Talbieh to leave immediately. The understanding was that the residents would be able to return as conquerors as soon as the Arab forces had thrown the Jews out. Dr. Jamal made the point repeatedly that he was leaving because of the AHC's threats, not because of the Jews, and that he and his frail wife had no alternative but to go.

Commentary Magazine -- January 2000


And many more...
Source: Peace Encyclopedia
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:27 PM
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11. your posting propaganda and you know it
have a nice day ;)
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Resolution_242 Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:45 PM
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12. "Propaganda" is just info You don't agree with
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Ever feel you had the good fortune to fly into WWI in an F-16? ;^)


Splash 2!

(and have you a nice day/landing too)



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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:59 PM
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13. your right I don't agree ; ^)
;) :smoke:

color me skeptical that Palestinians would abandon
their homes cause some Arab said he's coming with an
army to kick the Jews out ...
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undergroundrailroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 03:01 AM
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14. Locking per Israeli/Palestinian guidelines.
Not a recent article which is required when posting in the Israeli/Palestinian forum.

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