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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:35 PM
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Israel May Re-Occupy Gaza Cities During Pullout, Official Says
May 29 (Bloomberg) -- Israel may have to re-occupy some Gaza cities to prevent Palestinian attacks as it evacuates its settlers starting in August, Giora Eiland, the chairman of Israel's National Security Council said.

Israel believes that groups such as the Muslim fundamentalist Hamas will resume violence sometime during or after Palestinian legislative elections, now scheduled for July 17, and the Gaza pullout, slated to begin in mid-August, Eiland said at a press briefing in Jerusalem today.

``Twelve years after withdrawing from Khan Yunis, we may have to re-enter it to secure the withdrawal from the settlements,'' Eiland said, referring to Gaza's biggest city, which Israel left during the Oslo peace process.

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Pulling out by pushing in...riiiight. How much is that bridge again?
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tobeornottobe Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 08:09 PM
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1. Do you think
that it's just one of those clever thingies?
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 11:01 PM
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2. I think it's like telling her...
that you'll just put the head in...honest...
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tobeornottobe Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:08 AM
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11. Why
am I not surprised?
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 11:58 PM
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3. Given all the recent rocket and mortar attacks what is so
strange about this idea?

P.A. is also trying to hire 5,000 policemen to help oversee the withdrawal.

U.S. General Ward will also be overlooking the situation.

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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 04:36 AM
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4. amazing....
anybody can say anything...no matter how idiotic, get it printed and "wam bam" its taken as gospel by some.

"occupying a palestenian city"....given the fact that snipers are all around gaza and that urban warfare is a snipers "playground" the only reason israel would enter a palestenian city in gaza if its looking to kill and get killed. Not a likly scenario that would aid in the removing of the settlers, which is sharons initiative....

unless of course we decide its some conniving plan for the evil sharon to thwart his own plan, embarress bush and abu mazzan and madonna all at the sametime....now where did I put my tin hat?
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 06:17 AM
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5. The head of Israels National Security Council is talking idiocy?
After all, it's Giora Eiland who said: "The irony is that years after ending our occupation of the cities, we could again find ourselves in the city centers". Is there some reason why what this person's saying isn't supposed to be considered anything more than idiocy? Or is it some allergy to the word occupation?

Violet...
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 08:21 AM
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6. violet....yes
you ask if giora is talking like an idiote....sure sounds like it to me.......problem with our media over here is they'll print/broadcast anything that will get a reaction...and it does....but dont get me wrong, its hardly a Israeli/jew/zionist thingy, its more like a free press kind of thing.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 09:15 AM
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7. Sounds stupid to me.
A recipe for extreme violence.

Welcome back BTW.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 10:41 AM
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8. Suggestions - instead of the normal criticism
The last two paragraphs of the say

Eiland said he was skeptical that an agreement in February among Palestinian factions such as Hamas to temporarily stop attacks on Israelis will last because Hamas is opposed to Israel's existence and sees violence as the means to achieve its goals.

"The chances of solving problems and preventing a new cycle of violence aren't very high," Eiland said. "If we don't see any change in Palestinian willingness to confront independent militias, other goodwill gestures will be in vain."
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=ahfBnX4b4Bzw&refer=top_world_news


Perhaps Eiland is wrong, and the withdrawal will be accompanied by garlands of roses and prayers of thanksgiving, monitored by observers and volunteers from human rights and humanitarian organization.

But, what if Eiland is right? What is the contingency plan to protect non-combatants?
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 11:59 AM
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9. contingency. plans....
the IDF is prepared for the withdrawl, thats not the problem......and it assumed that there will be shooting by the palestenians. After all, the idea from the hamas point of view, is to show that they "beat the IDF" and what better way than shooting at them.....and of course we'll shoot back, only with a lot more weaponry (what will probably be referred to as excessive force-something btw when your returning fire doesnt really exist....since the idea is not a "fair fight" but to make the people shooting at you dead).

Now if the PA does have little children bring us flowers and the human rights organizations protect the withdrawl with their own bodies.....now that would certainly be a sight to see... a welcome sight at that.
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 07:15 AM
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10. Israeli soldier takes Gaza pullout protest to HQ
29 May 2005 14:06:24 GMT
Source: Reuters
JERUSALEM, May 29 (Reuters) - A soldier spray-painted a slogan against Israel's planned Gaza pullout on the headquarters of the country's army chief on Sunday, stoking fears of dissension in the ranks over the removal of Jewish settlements.

"He began spraying graffiti on the wall," a military source said about the incident at General Staff headquarters in Tel Aviv. "He was stopped by a security guard and arrested."

The source said the soldier was writing "Jews Don't Expel Jews" when he was apprehended near chief of staff Moshe Yaalon's office.

"Whoever needed additional proof that politics has penetrated deeply into the ranks of the military, received it today at the 'holy of holies' -- the chief of staff's office in Tel Aviv," Israel's YNet Internet news site wrote.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29351577.htm

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