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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-28-06 05:08 PM Original message |
Remember those diesel fuel tanks at WTC 7? |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-28-06 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Gee whiz, no one remembers the diesel fuel tanks |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-28-06 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. It looks like they recovered about half of the fuel. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-28-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The report is a bit ambiguous |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-28-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. It's not ambiguous enough to say "they were found intact" |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 03:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The 5th floor supply tanks were found damaged and empty. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 04:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Sounds more like the fuel poured out |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It doesn't sound like it. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. The question is even if some fuel did burn |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Perhaps, but it is equally likely that the pipes could have been |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Correction |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I don't know about any in either of the penthouses but |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. So is that why most of the 5th Floor |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Strange that the building code didn't call for |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. This whole building is strange |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. It seems unusual |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Looking forward to hearing what you find out |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. It's weird what code officials choose to enforce |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You can say that again! |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. As far as I can tell, the buildings were to code, though, |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Just speculation here, but maybe because the electrical generators |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That could be. |
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jschurchin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:30 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Actually Jazz, it's not odd at all.............. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. The generators and day tanks were housed in their own enclosures |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Some of the generator rooms were sprinklered |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 07:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. Found some interesting info about the PA and building codes |
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Grateful for Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 08:37 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Excellent info |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Odd, the NIST report only mentions the two 6000 gallon tanks |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. See my message below. The full report is much clearer than the powerpoint |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Equally likely? Not bloody likely! |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Facts and evidence please, goat girl/boy |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Odds wise, I'd have to go with the collapse most likely |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. "Facts and evidence please" |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. unintended duplicate - disregard. (but mind the one above) |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. "what a nice, polite conversation this was" |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. The tanks didn't rupture |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Yes, and besides, diesel is flamable but not explosive unless subjected |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The big question is were the two 6000 gallon tanks |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. It's clearer in the full report than the powerpoint one, if that helps |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Ah, thanks for the link |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. You're welcome. n/t |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. Most of the 5th Floor |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. moved to correct location. nt |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
8. Good find. here is pic of wtc |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You can see the glow of the fires from WTC5 & WTC 4 |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
32. FEMA: "best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence" |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:36 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Maybe you hadn't noticed but instead of quote mining, we were |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. You sound a little bit out of sorts |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
39. that's a good find but I thought there were diesel tanks for Ghouliani's |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The main system for the generators for the bunker |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. What, no check valves? nt |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Or maybe |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-01-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. OK, that suggests an alternative to my "spooky" scenario I've |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
48. NIST would like to determine the magnitude of hypothetical blast scenarios |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Correction |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
55. A kick and a link to more info |
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