Lasers

[mirandapriestly]

There were a number of small lights which turned to flames both on the towers and on wtc7 south side. Could Lasers have been directed at the building? it's not "kooky sci-fi" stuff, they have the technology, as you can see. Is thermite a distraction?


Lasers:
http://www.terrorize.dk/misc/weapons/laser.php


south side of wtc7, you can't deny the "pinpoint"lights here:
http://www.studyof911.com/video/flvplayer/wtc7_smoke_04.htm

[nam78_two]

1. Interesting

First time I have heard that -thanks for sharing!

[hack89]

2. I think you would have to eliminate

possible artifacts from how the digital image was created and compressed before you could conclude lasers. It is not the highest quality image I have ever seen.

Do you realize just how big a laser would be to do significant damage to a building the size of the WTC? I would not be portable by any stretch of the imagination. You would have to determine what building it was installed in and then figure out how they got a huge laser up there.

[Nozebro]

3. My, you focus on just the right points. Here are a few more.

Sorry, if you were keeping these in reserve. You know, "just in case".

You'd also have to know who exactly manufactured those lasers.

How were they transported to Personhattan?

How much do they weigh?

Do we know who operated them? Was it someone back at the al Q Headquarters Cave?

How could they have gotten lasers inside a building without thousands of people noticing?

Why would boosh approve such a thing?

Was the engineering for that particular laser system peer reviewed?

Did they take it up in an elevator? How could they have done that without thousands of people seeing them?

Back to you, Hacker.

[bushatbooker]

4. No, "how big" would the laser need to be?

Since you seem to know all the laser technology our military has in it's arsenal, please tell us, if lasers where used, how big would they have had to have been?

[hack89]

5. Don't you think that if MP is going to postulate a laser

she should be required to some basic research to show it is possible? Oh, I forget, the 911 truth movement is all about questions, not answers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_Laser

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_High_Energy_Laser

The initial MTHEL goal was a mobile version the size of three large semi trailers. Ideally it would be further downsized to a single semi trailer size. However doing this while maintaining the original performance characteristics is difficult.

[mirandapriestly]

6. Both "airborne lasers" and "THEL" are included in my link

One would think that if you were going to postulate on what I was postulating you would be required to some basic research to show that I have not indeed looked at that information.

I am assuming there is information that we don't have. The link shows what a laser can do and there are lights that might be explained by one. There was also a light where the plane or whatever eventually hit on the south tower that is visible in many photos/videos.
There is a lot that is not explained by "official" explanations (like just about everything) which is what SHOULD bother you, but you are held in thrall by "authority figures" such as corporate media and RW appointed government organizations, so instead you criticize the people who ask the questions. Odd, for a progressive, but I guess it's a "big tent".

[hack89]

8. But you look at the data and complety ignored

the implications that the size of the laser present. You also completely failed to show that the laser would generate enough power to do meaningful damage - since laser destructiveness is a function of dwell time, as far as I see, it would simply punch little holes in the walls. That would be devastating for a missile - I fail to see how it would significantly contribute to the collapse of the WTC.

My point is that your post is a typical CT post - superficial knowledge with no effort to dig a little deeper. Now you can either blast me as a right wing stooge or go back to strengthen you case to make it more convincing. I have no doubt what you will do.

[Nozebro]

9. "Now you can either blast me as a right wing stooge"

You neglected that your post is also a typical CT'er production, designed not to enlighten, but to discourage, confuse, distort, and otherwise stymie efforts to get the truth about 9/11.

[mirandapriestly]

10. I'm raising a possibility, I'm not making a claim

if you ever looked at the rest of DU you'd see that people do that without interference all the time. FYI, the 19 hijackers scenario is nothing more than a "possibility" since that has never been investigated/prosecuted.
I see two things that could be related and i'm raising the possibility. I think "THEL" was canceled because it is too awkward. I am just showing that the technology exists, the "size" is irrelevant, I don't think it would be difficult to create a device of any size that they wanted, that is just silly.

[SidDithers]

12. Not everything is possible...

and some things are less possible than other things. You seem to proceed on the assumption that all things are equally possible, without ever evaluating the liklihood of one over the other.

Sid

[mirandapriestly]

15. what hat did you pull that out of?eom

[hack89]

14. I lump this with thermate in that I don't see the point of using lasers

We all know that high explosives alone would have been sufficient to bring down the WTC so I don't understand what the role of the laser would be. The energy it would contribute would be so small compared to the PE of the towers that it makes no sense to go to the trouble.

[quicknthedead]

7. How about steel disintegrating to dust?

As in energy-directed weaponry.

Today is a breakthrough day…please look at this…and when you’re done, you may want to pass this on to others ASAP.

Here is Dr. Judy Wood's and Morgan Reynold's new website:
http://seattle911visibilityproject.org/t_past_events.ht...
And Dr. Wood's paper:
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam1.html
especially this page, about a quarter of the way down (steel to dust)
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/StarWarsBeam3.html

This can be better understood by:
Listening to the two hours of Professor James Fetzer’s Non-Random Thought Show for yesterday, 11/11/06; his guest is Dr. Wood:
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Fetzer06.html

(Arabs with box cutters don’t have this technology just yet!)

[mirandapriestly]

11. well, lasers also are used to break up rocks

Those guys (Woods et al) never really say what the "star beam " weapons are, do they? I was just showing something that is readily available, that we know exists.

[quicknthedead]

17. Never mind, I was wrong. Tonight I looked at it a dozen times...

rom all the videos available, and I finally found one that changed my mind and disproved this "steel to dust" theory to my satisfaction.

I got the video to the right spot and then worked the slider on windows media player back and forth until I saw the momentum forces turning the spire while at the same time it gave way completely.

Here's the video I'm referring to:
http://physics911.ca/video/2001/wtc1_dust_afterglow_med...

The "steel to dust image" is simply an optical illusion when viewed a certain way.
No magic here. Dr. Judy Wood should study it closer too.

[file83]

13. If it was MIHOP - then of course they would use a weapon that sounds unthinkable.

That makes any people trying to investigate it ("conspiracy theorists") sound ridiculous - like they are trying to catch "Dr. Evil" with "frickin' lasers!".

I for one am open to it now that I saw the videos of technology available to the USG.

However, those "pin points" of light you speak of have a much easier explanation: floating paper.

[mirandapriestly]

16. no, I don't think those are floating paper.

I've seen the phenomena in too many videos, and against the south tower in the area where the plane (or whatever) was about to hit

[mirandapriestly]

18. COIL

Chemical Oxygen Iodine Laser, or COIL
http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0497/laser2.htm

"The laser's blast literally burns a hole through the missile's metal body, destroying it
and raining debris down upon those launching it"


"The COIL basically vaporizes the metal," said Dr. Keith Truesdell,
Phillips Lab chief of the applied laser technology branch.
"It deposits enough heat to laze a hole through it. It's like
taking a magnifying glass and burning a hole through a piece
of paper, but we do it through metal"..




I dunno, sounds worth considering to me....