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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 08:44 AM
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Cheney Hit Video-- Plane and No Plane versions
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seatnineb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:18 AM
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1. Interesting Spooked ol' buddy!....but where did it come from?
Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 09:33 AM by seatnineb

Just to clarify.....where did the video which does not feature a plane come from?

But then come to think of it......where did the video which does feature a plane come from?

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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:43 AM
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2. the version with a plane came from a CBC documentary on 9/11
the version without a plane came from here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8587298712435481780&pr=goog-sl&hl=en
which links to 911review.org-- without any explanation for the source
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:44 AM
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3. Cheney hit clip can be seen easily here
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seatnineb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 09:55 AM
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4. Cheers Spooked....i had already seen Alex Constantine's

...on Sunday....and wondered where he obtained the video from......

I agree with you that if the plane has been doctored out of the video......then it looks pretty seemless......
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 11:19 AM
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6. there is no contact info for Alex Constantine
I tried emailing "Brad" who is listed on the front of 911review.org-- but no reply yet
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 11:30 AM
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7. Did you try Alex's blog
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 10:14 AM
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5. Cool. Finally an optional plane
Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 10:15 AM by DrDebug


So if the no-plane video is the correct one and the plane video is the fake, it would have started at the "engines" for the planes. So that's Floor #79-80 / 82-83?
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 12:03 AM
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9. Fuji Bank?
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 03:01 AM
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10. Indeed Fuji "Iran-Contra" Bank
The dark line in the video is the 75th and 76th floor which made it easier because that way you know the height of two floor, so it started about here:



That would make it Fuji Bank and the lowest floor of their offices and the top floor of their offices.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-14-06 11:33 PM
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8. I just want to know why the building is still intact
Edited on Tue Nov-14-06 11:36 PM by mirandapriestly
after the plane has gone through it.
why did flight 175 appear to enter the building level, when it was supposed to be in a steep dive?

why are parts of the plane missing in so many of the pictures, before it "enters" the building?

why did the only witnesses on the morning shows "as it happened" who were actually right there say
they were shocked to hear that there were planes because they saw it and it was just an explosion?(Others who "saw planes" were miles away)
why was everyone talking about "the explosions" until the media took over telling them it was planes?
Would the engine on the street be cold already? (people were touching it)where were all the other engines?
why did neither plane have any discernible debris fall from the exit hole?
(don't argue this point I have looked very hard, many times)
why did some videos show the intact "nose" coming out the other side, which also looked like the nose on the beginning relooping?

I'm so sick of people trying squash plane conversation. Those plane videos are really questionable, and I think this is one of the biggest areas of deceit. How can people not see that?


Oh, edit to say : great post Spooked.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 06:30 AM
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11. Yes, the still-recognizable shape of the nose and fuselage exiting
the building has always seemed bizarre to me. No dents or distortions at all after going through several steel beams? I've always doubted that view of the plane sort of "melting" into the building.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-15-06 07:40 AM
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12. well put, MP!
"I'm so sick of people trying squash plane conversation. Those plane videos are really questionable, and I think this is one of the biggest areas of deceit. How can people not see that?"

I also do not understand why so many people automatically assume that the videos of the planes are bona fide, given how easily videos can be manipulated.

Moreover, if you carefully look at the videos, none of them show a normal Boeing 767-200, and many show a plane that is too small for a Boeing 767-200.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:34 AM
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15. or
I also do not understand why so many people automatically assume that the videos of the planes are bona fide, given how easily videos can be manipulated.

OR:

I also do not understand why so many people automatically assume that the videos of the planes are fake, given how easily videos can be manipulated.

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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:53 AM
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16. Makes MP's points that much more valid when CT'ers are UNable to

even attempt to refute the substantive points in MP's post. Your response further weakens the fragile CT fairy tale. Keep it up and you might well become the reason why more people reject the boosh 9/11 CT and become 9/11 Truth Seekers.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 12:05 AM
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13. I meant debris falling from the entrance,
not exit.
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gaja Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 08:06 AM
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14. So who photoshopped it out?
http://thewebfairy.com/911/911/setup.htm

How many different angels of the south tower impact exist 10, 20... showing a plane?



creating non-issues can be fun too
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