Oregon Newspaper-Calls On ALL USA Newspapers To Join In Demand For NEW 9/11 Investigation

[kpete]

In honor of our veterans, we call for truth

Anniversaries cause us to instinctively pause and reflect, just as our leg jolts forward after a well-positioned tap on the knee. In honor of our veterans — to whom we owe a debt we can never repay — the least we can do on this Veteran's Day is look back at the decisions made that sent our troops into battle, and the roles we played in those decisions. Perhaps upon reflection, our reaction may change.

The fifth anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001 served as the reflex hammer touch to the knee of American conscience. As the country attended memorials and revisited painful memories of 9/11, the reflection also opened our collective mind once again to the many unanswered questions, legitimate concerns and conflicting evidence in the official description of those events.

For us at the Daily Tidings the event served to open discussion among us about this complex subject, about the conspiracy theories that abound in Internet chats, blogs and so-called investigative reports and most importantly, the questions regarding the media's role in this ongoing issue.

....................

We invite every single American daily newspaper to join us in our demand for an independent council to completely and thoroughly investigate the deaths of nearly 3,000 American citizens in the attacks of 9/11.

America will be better informed, and this is our job.

more at:
http://www.dailytidings.com/2006/1111/stories/1111_editorial.php

[Red Zelda]

1. Newspapers are too busy

chasing Britney Spears, Shaq, holiday recipes and college football stories.
There is more rampant stupidity in newsrooms than any other place in the U.S.

[tridim]

14. But it'd only take about 5 minutes to write the story

Too busy, my ass. :P

[FtWayneBlue]

2. Ashland, Oregon is a small, progressive college town.

What newspaper in which town can we target to follow suit to insist that 9/11 be properly investigated?

[Gregorian]

7. The Arcata Eye

http://www.arcataeye.com/

Arcata- the first town in the country to ignore the patriot act.

[Beam Me Up]

10. The Berkeley Daily Planet

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/

[NorCalDem]

57. Yeah Bezerkeley :)

Gotta love my home...

[roguevalley]

34. Ashland rules. I graduated from the college there in 1976.

[exlrrp]

39. Ashland: Best Annual Shakepeare Festival in this country

I love Ashland, visit it at least 6 times a year for the Shakespeare (and other plays)http://www.orshakes.org/ (I live in OR also)
This is what we used to call a real groovy community.
And it leads the way here.

[exlrrp]

40. I'm proud of Oregon--a Hardcore BLUE State, bluer than CA

We definitely made gains here, returning a Democratic governor to office, reelecting all our Democratic Congressmen, De Fazion, Wu, Hooley and Blumenauer (the Senators weren't running this year)
We took back controol of the Oregon HOuse which had a slim R majority.
All conservative backed issue went down in flames by large majorities like Parental notification of abortion, disrticting of appellat judges and term limits. (elections ARE term limits!) The litmus stick comes up blue in OR, a not inconsiderable factor in my choice to live here.
Now the scorecard is:
Governor: D
Senators: 1 D, 1 R (the D is senior)
Congressmen and women: 4 out of 5 D
Oregon House: D Majority
Oregon Senate: D Majority

We consider this to be a fair balance of power here in Oregon
(State Motto: "We're all that keeps Washington and California apart!)

[cui bono]

60. Here's some...

Santa Cruz, CA
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/

San Jose, CA
http://www.mercurynews.com/

Palo Alto, CA
http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/
I don't know the leanings of this publication but "On June 9, 2003, the Palo Alto City Council passed a resolution against the Patriot Act "TO ASSURE THE PROTECTION OF CIVIL LIBERTIES THAT ARE THREATENED BY" it..."
http://www.smartvoter.org/2006/06/06/ca/state/vote/brouillet_c/paper2.html

[GardeningGal]

3. I hope this is the first of many. n/t

[robertpaulsen]

4. Ashland High grad, class of 1991, kicking and recommending!

:kick:

[Pierzin]

5. That is Awesome!!!

:hi: :hi:

[Gregorian]

6. Yes! I've been hoping this would happen.

This is exactly what we need to do. For those who suffered the immediate consequences. And to dig out the truth of what really happened.

We have very little time. This has to happen now.

[blm]

8. Then we should send this article around to all our local papers, DUers.

Come on - let's DU what we DU best.

Thanks, kpete - sharp as ever.

[Gregorian]

9. Ungag Sibel.

This one act could bring down a house of cards.

[Rainscents]

11. We need to start somewhere, if it mean from small paper let it be!

Cindy was lone start of anti war movement and it grew from there. Great start... people will follow!

[elehhhhna]

12. TX-BLUE-22 gives Kpete rec # 21

[lady lib]

13. K & R

:kick:

[Mme. Defarge]

15. What a poetic gesture!

The home of the world famous Oregon Shakespeare Festival has thrown down the gauntlet.:woohoo:

[earth mom]

16. K & R! eom

[Straight Shooter]

17. Ashland. Buncha tree-huggin' earth muffins.

Just kidding. ;)

Ashland is home to some of the most aware people on the planet.

Send them your love, DU'ers:

Letters to the editor: [e-mail]

[civildisoBDence]

18. Not sure what questions remain about 9/11...

but there are more unanswered questions about Iraq than you can shake a stick at.

Newsprism

[FourScore]

24. Oooo-kaaay, where do we start?

Let's see...

First and foremost, watch the excellent documentary "911: Press For Truth" which can be seen in it's entirity at this link (incidentally, some DU'ers were very active in the making of this film):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q=%229%2F11+Press+for+Truth%22

3 short clips of WTC building 7 collapsing...

http://www.911research.com/talks/b7/videos.html

just click on the pics. No plane hit it, some fire and some structuaral damage, but still...no steel and concrete building ever fell into it's own footprint at almost freefall speed before (except on that day).

Then follow that with the video of this demolition expert's opinion of the collapse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgoSOQ2xrbI

Read as much of this as you can:

http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

And poke around in here:

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

That's just a start.

[bagrman]

26. Intentionally ignorant.If you have never looked then there are no questions.

Heck I'd just like to know why there 757 parts at the Pentagon. I know if it wasn't a 757 then what was it , Hell I don't know but I'll be damned if you or anyone else can answer that question with a picture of the jet junk piled up outside of the Pentagon. Cause as you'll remember there wasn't a very big hole in the side of the building certainly no jet junk. Now lets not turn this in to a big conspiracy confab but some one put up a link to a photo of jet junk and then that question is answered. Then we can get to other important questions. Like , what makes you think that anything is going to change just because the Crates have gotten elected. We'll have feal good policy passed the Boy King will veto it and then there won't be enough votes to overturn it.

Latr

[tomp]

38. you really think you know what happened on 9/11?

please fill in the rest of us. 25 words or less.

[IWantAChange]

45. I don't KNOW what happened - I DO KNOW what we've been told isn't true

Look at the facts. Melted steel (2500+ degrees) from a jet fuel fire (1800+ degrees) - a building falling at the speed of gravity - a third building not hit by a plane collapsing - no other steel buildings ever collapsing because of fire - buildings falling straight down despite damage to only one side or corner - almost everything (concrete/furniture/fixtures) being reduced to dust in a collapse - multiple military exercises that day and 6-8 fighters left in all of the NorthEast - NASB not handling the crash of an airplane investigation but FEMA instead - shipping 99+% of the steel to China and India within 2 weeks to be reprocessed rather than it being inspected by structural engineers and crime scene investigators - satellite photos showing pools of molten steel in excess of 1500 degrees at the site 2 weeks after the crash - etc. I am not an engineer or investigator - BUT I am somewhat rational and pragmatic - NONE of this makes sense with the official explanation. The American public deserves to know.

[FourScore]

47. Exactly...and then there is the money trail...

The ISI,paymaster Saeed Sheikh,Gen. Mahmood Ahmed (And who was he meeting with on 911??? And what were they talking about???), the mysterious put options..Good God, it just goes on and on, doesn't it?

[petgoat]

52. What questions remain about 9/11...

For starters, what caused building 7 to come down in 6.6 seconds?

Why won't the government release twelve categories of suppressed evidence
demanded by the Scholars for 9/11 Truth? http://www.st911.org/

Why can't the 9/11 widows get their questions answered? 200 of the widows'
300 questions to the 9/11 Commission are still pending.

Of the 100 responses, 63 were inadequate.

http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatings_111904.php

See the movie about the Jersey Widows, "911: Press for Truth"



Trailer here: http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

See it at one of these screenings:

Nov 15 Wed San Francisco, CA http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/screening/show/6137-san-francisco
Nov 21 Tue Amherst, MA http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/screening/show/8300-amherst
Nov 26 Sun NYC, NY http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/screening/show/8395-nyc
Nov 16 Thu Stonington, CT http://pressfortruth.bravenewtheaters.com/screening/show/8442-stonington

Better yet, host your own screening.

Or watch it on google video here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250

[niallmac]

19. Maybe it takes a relatively small paper to demonstate guts. eom

[nashville_brook]

21. yes it does -- "small" is the new "powerful"

[Jcrowley]

20. K & R

Must be the lithium in the water. Need more of it.

[Generator]

22. What are these Hippies smoking?

:toast: :hippie:

[bbgrunt]

23. so many many unanswered questions......

[FourScore]

25. K&R!!!!!

:kick:

[Laelth]

27. Sweet!

Prove MIHOP!

No modern, steel-framed skyscraper in the history of the world has ever collapsed as a result of fire damage, and jet fuel doesn't burn at a high enough temperature to significantly weaken steel. Anyone with eyes to see can tell that those buildings collapsed as a result of controlled demolitions. Just watch the videos again, and see for yourself.

-Laelth


Edit:Laelth--darned homonyms!

[life_long_dem]

28. For all of you DUer's that love to write to newspapers, here is a link

to lots of newspapers in the U.S.:
http://www.ipl.org/div/news /

[porphyrian]

29. Kick for truth. - n/t

[Quantess]

30. Before I clicked on the link, I was thinking maybe this was about "The Oregonian"

Figures it was an Ashland paper. After all, The Oregonian officially endorsed the republican gubernatorial candidate, Ron Saxton (who lost overwhelmingly, BTW:-) )

[exlrrp]

41. Thats why I no longer read the Oregonian

I read the Eugene Reigister Guard who recommended to vote exactly the way I did (except I live in Linn County)
The Albany Democrat Herald, although owned by a conservative, endorsed Darlene Hooley, A Dem because they said she had done such a good job. I read them also. (you can read george Will and Molly Ivins side by side here)

[Quantess]

51. The Oregonian gives a lot of credence to its neo-con readers.

Sometimes it panders to the right, in my opinion. It tries to be "fair and balanced", so to speak, which is an understandable goal, but a lot of the time, in the Opinion / Editorial section, they entertain viewpoints that have been shown to be false. For example, letters from people who deny global warming. They graciously respect the views of Bush-lovers. And they often print Rich Lowry's column. Ugh!

The Oregonian is an entertaining paper to read, though. Now that I live in WA I see the Seattle papers are a bit more serious.

I'll check out the Eugene Register Guard when I get a chance.

[Matariki]

31. And if we achieve that -and end up with one party rule again

Will the Democrats be responsible with that power? It all depends on OUR vigilance. There are people who use avenues of power without concern of ideology, and i'm sure they'll change tactics and allegiances without a second thought - as long as they have access to power. We need to support the reforms Nancy Pelosi has proposed for lobbyists and campaign finance reform.

[bobbolink]

32. Looks like "Good" Tidings, to me!

:applause:

This is great, and thanks for posting it-- I'll share this around!

:bounce:

[upi402]

33. I wrote the managing editor requesting he consider this

thanks for this!

[Keseys Ghost]

35. K&R

[coznfx]

36. I will be writing to ten papers

with this challenge. How about you? K & R!

[Norrin Radd]

37. k and r. n/t

[HamdenRice]

42. Where to start? Why did 9/11 paymaster/financier meet with US officials 9/4/01???

This is a great editorial. It's also great that DUers have put it at the top of the Greatest Page, and that the moderators have not consigned this post to the Dungeon. After all, in accordance with DU rules, the OP does not posit any particular theory, but merely records that a local newspaper calls for a new investigation.

If there is a new investigation, my first question would be, why did the Pakistani intelligence chief and 9/11 financier, Lt. Gen. Mahmoud Ahmad, who according to the FBI ordered that $100,000 be sent to lead hijacker Mohammed Atta, fly to Washington DC in early September 2001 (variously reported 9/4 to 9/6) to meet with the top leadership of the Defense Department, Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Council and State Department?

Why was the man who sent $100,000 to Mohammed Atta meeting with Porter Goss, Chair of the House Intelligence Committee, discussing terrorism emanating from Afghanistan, at the very moment that the planes flew into the World Trade Center. Is there any conceivable explanation of these well documented facts that does not suggest US complicity in or foreknowledge of the attacks?

[pberq]

44. Let's keep that one front and center.

If we focus on questions like that, then we don't have to get caught up in the endless debates on the struture of the the towers, etc.

Does anyone know if the 9-11 Commission did any investigation into Mahmoud Afmad and his meetings with US officials before and on 9-11?

(edited for spelling)

[donkeyotay]

53. We could interview Mahmoud Ahmad, but he's dead

He was quickly executed for the kidnapping and killing of Daniel Pearl. Small world isn't it? One day you're enjoying lunch at the WH, next day you're financing Osama and bam! you wake up one morning kidnapping a journalist.

For a very long account of this strange tale of this man's actions:

The whole cover story, however - with its endless obfuscations, diversions, and fallback explanations - cannot obscure the fact that it depends on a huge number of coincidences and conveniently timed set-ups to keep it in place. Moreover, evidence can be marshaled to show that the mainstream media - either as willful agents or as passive mouthpieces of the intelligence apparatus - planted disinformation that was meant to structure perceptions in a specific direction. The elaboration of the cover story bears the marks of its apparent mistakes and missteps.

But more disturbingly, the Omar Saeed/ Money Trail Story effectively shatters the credibility of the media/intelligence apparatus that provided virtually all the information on bin Laden and his al-Qaida network over the years. If this one small element of the overall 9/11 terror picture shows this much evidence of information management, one wonders how many other elements in this tale bear the marks of elaborate orchestration by the parties who have fed us all the data.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP209A.html

[pberq]

59. Thanks for the link - excellent article!

[HamdenRice]

61. I don't think so -- both Gen. Ahmed and Saeed Sheikh are alive

As I understand it, Gen. Ahmed is under house arrest in Pakistan. He was removed from the ISI and practically if not legally confined to his home for having too close relations with the Taliban.

Saeed Sheikh the conduit between Gen. Ahmed and Atta was arrested, tried, and sentenced to death for the murder of Daniel Pearl, but the sentence has not been carried out, an unusual delay for Pakistan. It is rumored that he has not been executed because of his ISI connections.

[pberq]

65. thanks for this info - do you have a link to a source?

Here's some more from the article quoted above:

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP209A.html

9/11 and the Smoking Gun that Turned on its Tracker
by Chaim Kupferberg

. . .In the aftermath, new "smoking guns" would emerge, more smoke would be blown. And what of that illusion - the one that in those early days after 9/11 seemed to conjure an image of thousands of federal agents building a paper forest of evidence implicating the hijackers? "The hijackers left no paper trail," declared FBI director Robert Mueller on April 30, 2002. "In our investigations, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper ... that mentioned any aspect of the Sept. 11 plot." In other words, they no longer needed to stand guard and defend the mountains of innuendo and smoke that was blown in those early days to provide you with the authorized account of 9/11. Mueller, with his carefully worded lawyerly formulation - "piece of paper", "mentioned", etc. - would thus have it both ways: throwing up the innuendo without legally obligating himself to defend it.

In the end, the smoking gun was not the money trail. Nor was it the "whistle-blowing" article that appeared to expose it. Instead, the smoking gun lay in the actions, words, and deceptions of those who so cynically took it upon themselves to direct our perceptions - to tell us what, why, and how we know what we know. For in so closely managing the flow of information, by weaving in so many coincidences and synchronicities that could only be explained by willful orchestration, they exposed the seams of their duplicity, and in so doing, exposed before our eyes the intricate workings of a vast, all-pervasive disinformation apparatus that now risks its own destruction - for its contours can now be perceived by all who care to look.

[bagrman]

68. The Commission wasn't an investigation. It was a regurigtation of the White house story.

[pola]

46. www.911truth.org/links.php

complete list of 9/11 Truth links

[Beam Me Up]

55. Well they've moved it now. 84 Recomendations and it gets MOVED.

What kind of SENSE does that make, DU ADMINS? This is OBVIOUSLY a cause/concern that many here feel strongly about.

WAKE UP!

[rman]

64. why did the 9-11 commission not investigate the financing of 9-11 and

even went so far as to say

“To date, the US government has not been able to determine the origin of the money used for the 9/11 attacks. ... Ultimately the question of the origin of the funds is of little practical significance.” (9/11 Commission, 8/21/2004, pp. 144 pdf file)
http://cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a082104financingmonograph
?

[pberq]

66. It's easy to surmise that tracing the money trail would lead

to the real perps - which they don't want to do.

". . .the question of the origin of the funds is of little practical significance."

- Unbelievable that they would actually print this!

[Pooka Fey]

43. I {heart} Oregon! K&R

[HamdenRice]

48. (In my best pirate accent): Arrggghh, Arrrggghh, To The Dungeon with Ye!

Despite being voted to the top of the Greatest Page.

[Raster]

67. And once a thread is thrown in the Dungeon, you can no longer

recommend it. Nice. Real nice.

[cyclezealot]

49. Investigate all Repug corruption.

not just 9-11. The US was hoodwinked into a trillion dollar war on lies and deceit. Truth need be outed so that Americans don't fall into such a trap ever again.

[Gregorian]

50. This seems crucial. 9/11 is the keystone.

If we unravel this mystery, we bust this administration wide open. I can think of nothing more important than a real commission.

This would expose every piece of corruption. This deserves all of our attention.

[petgoat]

54. "unravel this mystery... bust this administration wide open."

That's why the news media won't cover it. Their job is reporting the news
without damaging consumer confidence.

[Beam Me Up]

56. Consumer confidence in the media is already diminished BECAUSE

they won't report this issue. They've really fucked up on this one and completely overestimated TERROR as a selling point. Talk about undermining consumer confidence. What was the first thing Bush said after 9/11 -- everyone go shopping? Well, people are going to shop because they have desires but when FEAR is what the government has to sell, they're ultimately caught in the cross hairs of a contradiction. They want us to buy THEIR brand of "safety" ( WoT (tm) ) but it comes at a GREAT PRICE -- and it isn't all counted in Dollars. That is what the CONSUMERS of our society are waking up to -- and the media could be on the losing end of the stick.

Edit: wrote "underestimated" meant "overestimated" corrected.

[Gregorian]

58. The media is less important now that we have Congress.

I know that's a pretty general statement. But I'm thinking of justice and the law. We catch criminals every day who never make the news. That's my hope of how this plays out. The people don't really care much, regardless of whether it's blasted by the media. We have them red handed.

The people demanded Nixon be impeached. But I think the results would have been the same regardless of whether impeachment was begun. I don't know. I'm stepping out on limbs here. Forgive me. I'm optimistic. I really want to see justice.

[bagrman]

69. 911 Was the NeoCons , New Pearl Harbor.

[insanity]

62. AHS Class of 2005! K&R

Good to see the old Daily Tidings making national headlines... I agree completely with the editor.

Also, nice to see there is another ashlander out there.

[kerstin]

63. Good on you, Daily Tidings!

Excellent that they tied it in to Veterans' Day!

Support the troops? Investigate the premise for their ongoing sacrifice.

[kpete]

70. THANKS TO EVERYONE

who supported me and this thread...I am still not sure why we can't talk freely about this important subject.

[mirandapriestly]

71. 84 votes for greatest and we aren't allowed to talk about it

in the open.

[Nozebro]

72. Can't even talk about a very viable candidate for President in the open.

I refer to The Most Immaculate, Supreme, Noble and Serene, Noblesse Rudolph Guilianni. Most peculiar, don't you think? Maybe in the case of Rudy, given that he's alleged to be mobbed-up, it's appropro that he be discussed UNDERground...but even that seems odd since he, like most Mafioso, is very patriotic and a Republican to boot.