Alex Jones.. Egotistical? In it for the $? Disinfo agent? Censor of things he dosn't like?

[meuniermr]

Ive been listening to him for a month and have been trying to decide if he is any or all of the above, or just a regular old :tinfoilhat:? Some people also claim he has a bias toward Zionists, is his accusation of Larry Silverstein an attept to deflect this? What is he specifically wrong on; Did his looking in on Waco drive him wacko? Behind his rhetoric/bluster, sometimes paranoia and too many commercials I do hear information that does not come to my attention from anyplace else from him. His guests often seem to have more solid information than the man himself, IMO. Please talk amongst yoursevles, I am looking for some insight on this.
If all of this is true, can someone point me to an alternative who is actually sane?

[Greeby]

1. How about just an idiotic ranter?

I watched that Terrorstorm movie of his and now wish I hadn't. If you're gonna accuse my government of planning the London bombings. 1. get the timeline right 2. Don't just throw out any old report on the internet as conclusive proof of anything and 3. Come back when you can provide a motive that isn't extaordinarily weak.

[meuniermr]

2. What's wrong in his timeline? What weak motive?

/havnt seen the thing.

[Greeby]

6. For starters, the inference is that President Tony.......

carried out the bombings to influence the General Election. Never mind that the bombings took place two months AFTER the election.

The main alleged motive was according to the video, to pass these fascistic "anti-terror" laws. But he's been getting those passed in Parliament since 2000 with his compliant New Labour majority, and when the most recent round of bills got passed, it was with the same majority he would have had before the bombing. Even the Tories voted against it. Bottom line: If that was what he wanted, then there was no need to launch a terrorist act. He would have got it anyway.

Finally it neglects to mention when talking about the Madrid bombings that Aznar's government fell because of them. Given that the incumbent party can get rid of our Prime Minister anytime, you think President Tony would risk that? I don't.


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[The Magistrate]

3. Low Grade Pissant, Sir

Manages to make a living off those whose minds have a peculiar mixture of intricacy and credulousness: they are numerous enough to provide sustenance for a few grifters, though insufficiently numerous to be of any account otherwise.

Links to his site, and to articles and other materials produced by him, where-ever hosted, are not welcome on Democratic Underground, and are removed when spotted.

[Why Syzygy]

5. Excuse me sir..

You said just about as usual. Does Alex do sensation? Yeah, buddy. Does anyone hear him? Yeah buddy. Some people go over the top to be heard.

Take what you can and disregard the rest.

[Nozebro]

13. Are you saying that Alex Jones only appeals to "grifters"? That's like

saying that anyone that believes booshco's 9/11 fairy tale is a grifter. Of course, I know that YOU are a CT'er, but still, wouldn't it be unfair to call YOU a grifter? Right. So stop implying that all 9/11 Truth Seekers are grifters and speak for yourself.

[The Magistrate]

19. He Is A Grifter, Sir

Those a grifter appeals to are refered to as "pigeons" in the argot of the trade, the trade itself being fooling these into providing a living for the grifter.

[rman]

20. There's you,

you claims, your supposed authority - and then there's actual evidence to support your claims, which is sorely lacking.

[The Magistrate]

21. He Makes A Living At It, Sir, Does He Not?

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[rman]

25. So what?

[Nozebro]

30. There are plenty of people that make a living by promoting CTs - the most

absurd one of all being the 9/11 fairy tale conspiracy about some cokeheads and a sick, longtime CIA asset -- which I know YOU don't support, because as a Moderator, I believe you are supposed to not do that sort of thing, right?

[mirandapriestly]

14. Then why can we link to Fox?

"Sir" - :puke:

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

35. xlnt question..

if AJ and fox,msnbc,cnn,etc infotainment super stars content were analyzed side by side for accuracy i wonder which would come out on top..

i don't really wonder ;-)

[meuniermr]

31. Does this apply to all controversial radio hosts, right or left?

eom.

[Why Syzygy]

4. Go

with the tin foil. But still he is more on the ball than most. But make yourself special.

[yurbud]

7. for those who dismiss him, is he LESS trustworthy than a network suit who simply reads Karl Roves PR

faxes?

I don't buy all his stuff, but I notice that people who dismiss him often do so without having done their homework on the issues he discusses.

[KJF]

8. He seems to be really nuts

But in fact is not quite as nuts as he seems. For example, I just read somewhere that he doesn't think a Cruise missile hit the Pentagon, so I guess that shows a reasonable degree of scepticism and that he doesn't just buy any old conspiracy theory. I saw Terrorstorm and thought it was really quite average, it has some of the flaws one of the other posters pointed out (date of British general election wrong, etc.). His guests often are better than him. Basically, he would be better if he was more careful.

[Nozebro]

9. Should Mr. Jones "buy" the CT that OBL was the Perp, not the Scapegoat?

Challenge: give a SUBSTANTIVE response explaining why YOUR favorite CT isn't nuts.

[rman]

10. I think that's a different topic

than discussion of Alex Jones.
If you want to pose a challenge re CTs, you can start a new thread.

[Nozebro]

12. I think you're out of line. Tryouts for the CT'er team aren't til next month.

Thanks for playing.

[LARED]

16. SUBSTANTIVE response explaining why YOUR favorite CT isn't nuts.

Now that's quite the challenge!!!!!!

[LARED]

11. How about businessman in a niche market

Let's face it tin foil is a booming business

[mirandapriestly]

15. So news sources shouldn't be able to profit?

[LARED]

18. Sure they should

Did I say they should not profit?

As to whether Mr. Jones' provides news or propaganda is an interesting question.

[The Magistrate]

22. The Difference Can Be Neatly Split, Sir, At 'Speculative Fiction'

"Politics is the new Art, Rothman!"

[LARED]

28. Interesting!

Speculative Fiction; more fun than than the same old news, but no one really beleive this anyway so lets pretend we're serious and make a few bucks.

[Nozebro]

27. Do you have a mirror that isn't broken?

If so, check your source.

[sarcasmo]

33. If a news source can not make a profit.

How can it stay a float?

[Nozebro]

26. But the REAL money is in contracts for PR firms to sell False Flag ops as CTs.

Let's fact it, Disinfo has been a huge business for a long time. Just ask Hill & Knowlton.

[mirandapriestly]

17. Who else showed how the OBL tapes were faked?

and they were...for stuff like that he's invaluable.

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[SidDithers]

29. He's a...

Sid

[ediedidcare]

32. Alex is an acquired taste but...

straight as an arrow. I've believe him when he expresses his outrage regarding crimes against children by vaccination (mercury preservatives).

Just look at what he alone has done; documentation of the criminal activity and all he just asks is top try and cover his costs.
Anybody questioning that sort of commitment needs to step back...

[Joanne98]

34. He has a "style" problem. He did produce the "cremation of care"

ceremony on film. For that he deserves our thanks. It was only a Bohemian Grove conspiracy theory before. Now it's real and I think damn interesting. I think people should ignore his "style" and look at his work. I think he's going to be big someday. He PRODUCES RESULTS.

[mirandapriestly]

36. AJ interviewed Greg Palast on Armed Madhouse

and Palast said that the NYTimes wouldn't interview Palast because his election information was "conspiracy" information. (It was ALL documented and really comparatively tame) But Alex Jones would. How sad that uninformed moderators want to deny people the opportunity to decide for themselves & think for themselves.