List all of Rudy Giuliani's noteworthy accomplishments here

[burythehatchet]

once the thread gets to about 150 replies, I'll start a 2nd thread in consideration of people with dial-up.

[WhoDoYouTrust]

1. .

next......

[Sapphocrat]

2. I know one.

He managed to keep his job even after moving his mistress into his home while his wife was still living there.

That's the best I can do.

[Olney Blue]

3. He hosted SNL.

next......

[skipos]

4. He mentions 9-11 a thousand times in every speech?

That must count for something.

[NYCGirl]

5. He told his second wife he was going to divorce her at a public press conference.

You mean something good for the city?

[Kelly Rupert]

6. He crucially stood in front of flags in a critical point in our nation's history.

[chelsea0011]

7. nightstick use by the police?

[kestrel91316]

8. (crickets chirping)

[Alexander]

9. His police commissioner reduced NYC's crime, and dared to take credit, so he fired the guy.

[Vanje]

10. He lost his comb-over

Much improved!

[sleepyhead]

11. increased sales of toilet plungers? n/t

[William Bloode]

12. He managed to "disappear" the homeless. n/t

[readmoreoften]

21. I'll finish your sentence "By putting them buses and dropping them off in NJ"

As the homeless population of NY declined, the homeless population of NJ began to rise. Mysterious, huh?

[William Bloode]

46. I was not sure how he had done it.

I did know that it was sneaky, and underhanded. So thanks for the particulars.

[longislandAnnie]

13. One of my favorite Rudy moments was

when he was standing on the steps of the Brooklyn Museum, holding court for the press and ranting and raving about cutting funding for a city museum because He didn't approve of the art being displayed. He also had the police get rid of the squeegee men and made Times Square Disneyland North. WOW!

[DoYouEverWonder]

27. Welcome to DU

longislandAnnie from another Annie from LI :hi:

[bigwillq]

48. Hi!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[rolleitreks]

14. Dishonest thread. He set the city on a course of

prosperity and reclaimed quality of life for those of us not street people and addicts. He locked up thousands of a-holes who thought they were hot shit, but were just pains in the ass. Unfortunately the droopy-pants crowd still plague those of us committed to civilized life. He rescued it from the sewage outlet it had become under Beame, Koch, and especially, the gracious incompetent Dinkins. And then, on 9/11, he did exactly the right thing, which was beyond Bush, and provided true leadership to millions.

Yeah, he's a dweeb and a horse's ass, and in no way suited for the presidency, but he pretty much saved the city from the assorted shit heads, of which there are too many yet in Manhatttan. Probably the other boroughs too, if you bother to go there.

[Orsino]

18. But what did he actually do?

I'm all for honesty.

[Alexander]

23. Bill Bratton is the main reason crime went down in NYC.

Giuliani wanted all the credit. So he fired Bratton.

[papau]

25. W. J. Bratton reversed the NYC crime Epidemic - not Giuliani - who he fought with

New York can thank the very Democratic town of Boston for the hero of the crime fight -William J. Bratton.

Between 1983 and 1986 Bratton was Chief of Police for the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, following which he became Superintendent of Boston's Metropolitan District Commission Police. In 1990, he was appointed Chief of Police of the New York City Transit Police. Bratton was Superintendent in Chief of the Boston Police Department from 1991 until 1993, when he became that city's 34th Police Commissioner. He holds the Department's highest award for valor.

In 1994, William Bratton was appointed the 38th Commissioner of the New York City Police Department by Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani. He had success in this position, and introduced the CompStat system of tracking crimes, which proved successful in reducing crime in New York City and is still used to this day, but left the job in 1996 after alleged personal conflicts with Giuliani.

In 1998, Random House published his memoir TURNAROUND: How America's Top Cop Reversed the Crime Epidemic, written with co-author Peter Knobler. It was named a New York Times Notable Book of the Year.

Giuliani's claim to fame is marrying his second cousin and then publicly cheating on her while Mayor.

[rolleitreks]

33. The thing is, none of his predecessors would have given

Bratton free rein. (And there is no question this resulted in some tragedies.) An example of his high-handedness and general unsuitability for high office is the way he treated Bratton. But he used him to clean up the city. Gentrification of Times Sqare went too far -- should have retained a bit of raffishness. But he brought businesses back, kept middle to upper middle class people in town.

To deny this progress is simple Swiftboating, and no less reprehensible because the object is Republican. He has enough flaws to bring him down without denying him his accomplishments and his moment of greatness. And I don't like the guy.

[papau]

49. "none of his predecessors would have given Bratton free rein" -why not - Bratton

had a new idea - no one had thought that doing little things like getting rid of the corner begging would bring down real crime - but Bratton did and Bratton was correct.

Any Mayor of New York would have hired the best of what was out there - and Rudy lucked out because Bratton was not only the best - he had a new idea that worked.

I can't imagine a Dem Mayor telling the Police Commissioner to layoff the beggars that were aggressive and stopping traffic in those days, if the Police Commissioner had decided to put some resources into that effort and had asked the Mayor for permission.

No - Rudy gets no credit as a crime stopper.

Rudy does get credit for hiring based on merit - as opposed to hiring based on loyalty as is done by Bush.

But that is it - IMHO.

[bigtree]

26. his police force locked up folks like Americans packed Iraqis into Abu Ghraib

His police force was allowed to brutalize citizens with impunity.


NYT April 7, 2000: http://www.crimelynx.com/hillrolls.html

Mr. Giuliani, whose record as a crime fighter has lifted him to two victories in New York City and positioned him as a formidable Republican challenger to Mrs. Clinton statewide, has even suffered a steep decline in the way voters, statewide and in New York City, judge his actions on his signature issue: crime reduction. The number of New York City residents who disapprove of his handling of crime has jumped almost 30 points since fall, to 50 percent in this latest poll, and a majority believe that Mr. Giuliani's law enforcement policies have contributed to an increase in police brutality.

[rolleitreks]

42. No question that the police got out of hand.

And there were several tragedies. Perhaps someone will find the perfect balance in the future.

[Ignacio Upton]

34. This is the only time I will defend Giuliani

But yes, I will give him some credit for improving the quality of life in the city. However, not all of it was his to take credit for. While the quality of life iniatives were good idea (why the fuck should I allow a squeege man to come up to my car with a dirty towel and windex? And Times Square may be sanitized today, but it is still much better than it was in the early '90s.) There were other factors coming into play, including:

- The end of the crack epidemic

- Competent police comissioners in Ray Kelly and William Bratton. Kelly was Dinkins' commisioner, but his boss wasn't the best boss to work for. However, he did help start the crime drop towards the end of Dinkins' tenure, and has worked as Bloomberg's police chief. Bratton did a pretty good job too, and so did Howard Safir. The only douchebag I can think of during this period was Kerik.

- Clinton providing more money for police officers.

- Roe v. Wade and NYS legalizing abortion two years before that may have played a role, at least according to the Freakonomics guys...although I would like to know more about that.

- More private investment. I know I may sound like I'm trumpeting the free market, but I will go ahead anyway. While gentrification can have adverse effects, the private efforts to clean up Bryant Park, Central Park, and Tompkins Square Park were needed to help improve the quality of life. If people still have that perception of homeless people and crackheads roaming in NYC's major parks, then how the hell will you attract investment? Of course, these events and cleaning up of neighborhoods could only have happened because NYC has such a large group of wealthy benefactors, whereas smaller cities that were hurt by the deindustrialization and riots of the '60s could not recover in such a matter.


...Rudy only deserves credit in that his dictatorial complex was needed to hold a lawless city together. HOWEVER, he went too far in the other direction, especially in the case of Louima and Diallo. Bloomberg, in all honesty, is what Giuliani could have been. While Bloomberg is not popular for some on this site, he's really a RINO and governs like a liberal in most respects.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

15. he made the trains run on time... oh wait... no... that's not right.

he made racial harmony a part of nyc culture. ... oh wait...
he was an advocate for rent control so that elderly persons could keep their apartments... er...No... I guess I'm wrong again.
he was a moral upstanding mayor who showed the values of traditional marria--err...no. Not that one either.

I think I'm stumped.

Oh. Wait... i got one... an abundance of those tacky "I love new york more than ever" shirts. That's patriotic! i bet they were even made in the USA... oh... wait... i...ummm... no.

he got a good PR guy after leaving office. There- that's one!

[sce56]

16. Being on the scene of two crimes 911 where he helped the coverup & London Train bombings

Where the eyewitness accounts differ from the official story in both cases! IN both cases there were official terrorist attack drills in progress when the attacks happen awfully big coincidence!


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[CatWoman]

17. you know, when 9/11 happened I was so grateful for Rudy's efforts

and his leadership, until it dawned on me that he was all about milking 9/11 and his "heroics" for all that they were worth.

I think the thing that got him over is that when you compared his actions to Chimpy's, Rudy looked and acted like a "real" leader who was devastated by the attack on his city.

Now I think a crack whore would come out shining when compared to Bush.

I resent the hell out of Rudy for the way he treated his wife and kids. I resent the hell out of Rudy for the way he treated the homeless in NYC. And I resent the hell out of Rudy for his sneering inhumanity over Louima and the young african who was shot all to hell.

[TahitiNut]

24. R.I.P. - Amadou Bailo Diallo (September 2, 1975 – February 4, 1999)

An immigrant from the Republic of Guinea.



:cry:

[CatWoman]

29. thanks for that, Hon

I had forgotten his name.

:hi:

[Ignacio Upton]

36. Question: Were the cops who shot him ever punished?

I never paid much attention to that case when it was actually in the news, but I'm wondering what ever happened to them? And nobody can defend those guys when they fired a shit-load of bullets at the guy. I could believe them if they only shot him once or twice in the arm to disarm him, but their excuse was bullshit because of the large number of times they shot him.

[TahitiNut]

38. Nope. Acquitted by jury. City paid $3 million to settle suit from family.

Federal charges were dropped. The NYC "Street Crimes Unit" was disbanded a couple of years later.

[Ignacio Upton]

45. I'm surprised there wasn't a Rodney King redux

n/t.

[Fleshdancer]

19. he didn't hide on 9/11 like Bush and Cheney

:shrug:

on edit: this can be said for many people though

[NewJeffCT]

20. I thought you were going to give us a blank post

shows what I know.

[bigtree]

22. He learned how to speak with his head up his ass?

[B Calm]

28. The untold story of Giuliani past is fair game and also a book!

http://www.amazon.com/Grand-Illusion-Untold-Story-Giuliani/dp/0060536608

reviewer .......

Rudy Giuliani is a private citizen now. And he'll remain one if this book gets any traction. Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11 contains the kind of data that could bring St. Rudy earthward. It's a pretty damning portrait of a lame-duck mayor crippled by petty ideological battles, misplaced priorities, cronyism, plain old incompetence, and a city that dawdled as the signs of an impending terrorist attack grew clearer every day. While crediting Giuliani for his ability to rally the city, the authors zero in on the policies and practices they say created more heroes than survivors on September 11. You can be sure that Hillary has highlighted her copy until it's dripping bright pink.

[KalicoKitty]

30. He is a hypocrite who received communion in his Catholic church while committing adultery.

Rudy claimed to be so moral...yet he FLAUNTED Judi Nathan in the public eye - in front all of America, especially his children, and bringing her to Gracie Mansion. Rudy Wanted to move his girlfriend into the mayor's residence.

[CatWoman]

31. I have found the correct and final answer:

[Poiuyt]

47. And he's able to walk in heels without falling over.

[KalicoKitty]

32. kept the firefighters and cops from raises and contracts while he was in office.

:grr:

[rocktivity]

35. He changed his mind about delaying the disbursment of 9/11 donations

to the city until spring. Of course, he changed is mind after a public outcry...

:eyes:
rocknation

[Buzz Clik]

37. I like Rudi. He'll never be president, but do we need all the threads to pound on him?

[Kelly Rupert]

40. Hey, this is DU. All republicans are fair game.

I'm just glad it's not another Lieberman thread.

[Buzz Clik]

44. LOL! Good point. I'm also glad we're not pounding on Kerry or Emanuel or ...

... some other obsession.

[zulchzulu]

39. He saved money by not upgrading NYC communications after first attack

Rudy saved the people of New York City money by not upgrading communications equipment for the fire and police department after the first strike on the World Trade Center in 1993. If he had, they would have been able to communicate...but then the 911 tragedy might not have been as tragic. He was given the advice on a number of occasions, but he just have to spend more time cheating on his wife.

Thanks Rudy!

[DoYouEverWonder]

43. Rudy also disappeared on 9-11

until after the second tower fell.

Nor did he set one foot in his multi-million dollar OEM bunker in WTC7 on that day.

[Nozebro]

50. Well, see, Rudy comes from a connected family & he knew better than to

go into a building that was gonna be blown to Kingdom Come. After all, some long-simmering "family" feud might have "blown up" in his face if he had set foot in his "Command" Center.

Rudy: Connected AND Smart.

[zulchzulu]

41. Rudy was able to have hidden explosives placed in WTC towers before 911

Anyone who has done research on how the WTC towers fell so quickly would know that explosions were used with within the structures. Rudy was able to have these explosion placed in the buildings without detection. The best part is that if you question the physically impossible "pancake theory" with the buildings, you're dismissed as a "conspiracy theory wacko".

How a 102-floor structure would fall in 8 seconds without explosive assistance and at free-fall speed surely is something we should never question if we love 'Merica.

[DrDebug]

51. He shipped the Twin Towers to China without any investigation n/t