watch cspan-2 NOW

[wildbilln864]

watch and learn!

[proud2BlibKansan]

Ray McGovern?

[AndyTiedye]

2. Why Wait Until 1/20/09?

[sce56]

1. For those unable to watch on cable go to the web site

http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan2v.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx

October 17, 2006,Will be remembered as the Enabling day of the 21st Century!
"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures..."
~Adolf Hitler, March 23, 1933, before the German Parliament (Reichstag) as he urged them to pass his "Enabling Act"

Got Fascism Yet?


http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/bush-nazilinkconfirmed.htm



Fascism Accomplished!

[ThomWV]

3. Any Hints?

[NMDemDist2]

5. Ray McGovern and David Ray Grifin on 9/11 from Berkeley n/t

[lizziegrace]

4. Cube rat here with no speakers

Who's on right now? What's the topic?

[BlueCaliDem]

6. David Ray Griffin, author of "9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out".

Giving an excellent speech on how well 9/11 fits into growing American Imperialism---making a LOT of sense too!

This was taped on 9/24/2006.

[The Backlash Cometh]

19. Except...that the American dollar is falling.

We will be conquered without anyone having to shoot a gun.

[Joanne98]

20. It's being made to fall. ON PURPOSE!

Raygun did the same thing. MIHOP

[sce56]

7. 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out, David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Peter Philli

9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out, David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Peter Phillips, Kevin Ryan, Ray McGovern
I'm watching it on line
http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan2v.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx

Description: Editors and contributors to the book, "9/11 and American Empire," assess the Bush administration's responsibility for the attacks on 9/11, arguing that key administration officials either purposefully ignored the threats leading up to the attacks or were complicit in the planning them. The panelists say that the administration has used the attacks to enact long established plans to expand American empire. The participants are: David Ray Griffin (co-editor/contributor), Peter Dale Scott (co-editor/contributor), Peter Phillips (contributor) and Kevin Ryan (contributor). Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern moderates the discussion. The event was hosted by Berkeley, California-based Pacifica radio station KPFA (www.kpfa.org).

Author Bio: David Ray Griffin, professor emeritus of philosophy and theology at the Claremont School of Theology, is the author of "The New Pearl Harbor" and "The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions." Peter Dale Scott, former Canadian diplomat and former professor of English at the University of California, Berkeley, is the author of "Deep Politics and the Death of JFK" and "Drugs, Oil, and War." Peter Phillips, professor of sociology at Sonoma State University and director of the Project Censored media research program, is most recently the co-editor of "Censored 2007: The Top 25 Censored Stories" and "Impeach the President: The Case Against Bush and Cheney." Kevin Ryan is a former site manager with Environmental Health Laboratories. Ray McGovern, a 27-year veteran of the CIA, is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) and a contributor to the book "Neo-CONNED! Again."

October 17, 2006,Will be remembered as the Enabling day of the 21st Century!
"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures..."
~Adolf Hitler, March 23, 1933, before the German Parliament (Reichstag) as he urged them to pass his "Enabling Act"

Got Fascism Yet?


http://www.georgewalkerbush.net/bush-nazilinkconfirmed.htm



Fascism Accomplished!

[lizziegrace]

10. Thank you! n/t

[Joanne98]

21. Does c-span online have a close-caption option for the deaf?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

8. on google video too

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3195658770053494633

discussion in the basement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=125

[LWolf]

9. Why do I have to watch?

For those of us who don't have a computer that easily handles video, and who don't do tv, why can't there be a transcript? Or a post that makes a point?

Video is not the best way to transmit information, and it shouldn't be the only. Can someone just tell those of us who can't, or don't, watch video what the point is?

[wildbilln864]

11. Then buy the book...

titled: "9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out"

[LWolf]

12. Ok. Why? What is it about, and how will it benefit me? n/t

[angstlessk]

14. LWolf I am on dail up..and 'watching' is not an option...so I 'listen'

all you need are speakers. Go here: http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30 and if you have real player click 'listen' or if you have windows click 'listen'..and you are NOT required to 'watch'...C-Span is NOT a visual media it is all about words...so one can JUST listen and get all the info one needs!

[wildbilln864]

13. This will repeat...

I think at 10:00 pm.

Amazing details every American should be aware of!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

15. Whistle blower about the stand-down orders?

any body heard anything on this?

[SpiralHawk]

16. Commander AWOL sure as hell sat down on 9/11

Who can forge the hour he wasted reading "My Pet Goat" after he had been told TWICE that America was under attack.

Commander AWOL just sat there sucking his thumb, never lifting a finger to save any of the Americans who died.

What a complete cowardly weenie he is. Acts tough, nothing to back it up.

[petgoat]

22. I heard of a whistleblower at CENTCOM named Sergeant

Lauro Chavez.

http://www.v911t.org/SergeantLauroChavez.php

My impression was that his allegations didn't pan out, but I
haven't taken the time to investigate. Maybe there was a
campaign to discredit him?

[doc03]

17. Art Bell Coast to Coast BS

[petgoat]

23. Let's see, you're characterizing three PhDs and a 27-year CIA

analyst as "Art Bell" without even listening to their presentation?

Thanks for sharing!

[doc03]

24. I caught most of it and I have seen the Loose Change

video and to me all these conspiracy theories just sound nuts. I just don't believe as bad as the Bush administration is that they would do anything that crazy. Over the years numerous so called experts have come up with dozens of conflicting conspiracies about the JFK shooting, I have finally come to the conclusion Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone shooter.

[sagesnow]

25. Check out "911 Mysteries"

For the most up to date presentation of why several of the explanations offered by the 9/11 Commission run contrary to the Laws of Physice watch "911 Mysteries".
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=9%2F11+mysteries&hl=en


Brad the filmmaker of 9/11 Mysteries states he is a conservative Republican who looked at the evidence he "realized the offical story was unprovable, unsubstantiated, ...wrong." For instance three buildings fell at free fall speed after being subjected to very low temperature fires. Building 7 fell even though it was not hit by a plane and had less fire damage that the twin towers also at free fall speed. People with open minds, seeking objective facts, find this evidence hard to dismiss.

[petgoat]

26. Loose Change 2 has pretty sloppy research. After all, Dylan

Avery is only 22 years old and doesn't understand the world very well.
Cooler heads are advising and Loose Change 3 is in the works.

What Dr. Griffin and Dr. Scott say sounds crazy only because it IS crazy
that anyone would do what the neocon cabal has done. The Bushcists are a
pack of lunatics and it's time to start talking them down from their
knife-wielding bridge-climbing delusions!

[mirandapriestly]

28. Upon closer inspection, the 911 "Myth"

that we are being given is crazier. Most people don't have "theories", they just question what supposedly happened and put ideas out there. Some of the kookier stuff might be planted, (aliens, etc...might be planted)

[EFerrari]

29. If this distinguished panel of scholars, diplomats and former

intelligence professionals sound nuts to you, you better get your ears checked.

[spillthebeans]

31. There is a cool joke illustrating this phenomenon

Perhaps you've heard of the man who thought he was dead? In reality he was very much alive. His delusion became such a problem that his family finally paid for him to see a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist spent many laborious sessions trying to convince the man he was still alive. Nothing seemed to work. Finally the doctor tried one last approach. He took out his medical books and proceeded to show the patient that dead men don't bleed. After hours of tedious study, the patient seemed convinced that dead men don't bleed. "Do you now agree that dead men don't bleed?" the doctor asked. "Yes, I do," the patient replied. "Very well, then," the doctor said. He took out a pin and pricked the patient's finger. Out came a trickle of blood. The doctor asked, "What does that tell you?" "Oh my goodness!" the patient exclaimed as he stared incredulously at his finger ... "Dead men do bleed!!"

[mirandapriestly]

33. I love that one! Sounds like the OCTs.....eom

[sce56]

18. See a retired General talk about the lack of a plane at the penatgon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUs2KFpbt9I&mode=related&search=



Fascism Accomplished!

[mirandapriestly]

27. Well, that's cool. "what's going on?" That's what I'd like to know.

Do you know anything about the documentary "A Nation under Siege"? which that is taken from

[mirandapriestly]

30. I just watched it, it was excellent.

If only more would see this, but of course, it was whisked off the forum with all the traffic...
Kevin Ryan was really good, I liked his point about how NIST said the documents pertaining to UL testing the steel had "gone missing". But then later they came out and said it wasn't true that UL had tested it for 6 hours , it had tested the steel for less than that, Then Kevin asks: "If the documents had "gone missing" how did they know how long it had been tested for?" (Not exact words)


also, how NIST explained the horizontal jets coming from the towers as "puffs of gas escaping as the floors pancaked" LOL!!!like, a 4000 square foot or whatever floor falls and only these small jets uniformly spaced "escape", but not only that, but the "pancaking" was disproved! It would be fun to go back into this forum's archives and see all the CTers expounding on the pancake theory. lol

also the over-ventilation - forcing of oxygen into the workspace to establish evidence for higher gas temperatures and doubling the floorload that was known to have existed, but it still didn't support the predetermined conclusions they'd been given.
Why believe anything NIST says? Like the 911 commission it's like their investigating themselves

[Joanne98]

32. I thought to second speaker was good. The testing of the steel..

Was the steel fireproofed or not. This looks like a problem for Bushco.

[wildbilln864]

34. It's been no problem what so ever so far for them...

They're still getting away with mass murder in my opinion!
Eventually there'll be no evidence left.