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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:58 AM Original message |
NJ EMT says workers told WTC7 was going to be "pulled"! |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is the biggest buncha bullshit yet. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. How can people so readily believe this obvious bullshit? |
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MervinFerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Naah! "Dustification Beams" are a bigger pile. But this one is very large. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. NJ EMT workers were across the river helping the injured. It is possible. The article does not say |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. No. The prankster claims he was in NY after the first plane, and before the 2nd. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Thanks. Actually right now I'm searching to see if there were EMTs from Jersey helping out. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. He says they drove his friend's truck and parked at Burger King |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. That does sound like BS. eom |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. Why do you believe this was written by an NJ EMT? nt |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. It wasn't. It was written by/reported on a news blog. n/t |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. The Port Authority ... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. brilliant |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I find it interesting that firecoins doesn't know the pay scale for an EMT. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. JCQ, Check this out |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. You claimed it was credible that NJ EMTs were first responders. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Google is your friend |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Excellent. Find one person in this effort who corroborates "Mike." |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I think Mike makes it clear no one else wants to speak up. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. How convenient. n/t |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Apparently not for him. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. There is no evidence for his suffering except his assertion of such. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Passing out DVDs in public is not equivalent to giving your name |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. No credit, because his story is bullshit from start to finish. n/t |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You don't know that, bolo. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 02:53 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. I most certainly do. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. That was after the collapses, not after the first plane crash. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Not really. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:04 AM Response to Reply #47 |
63. You're wrong. Ground zero is the term used for the post-collapse site, not |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. Interesting term, that, "Ground Zero" |
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firecoins (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. Payscale |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Welcome to the DU, firecoins! |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-12-07 06:47 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Thanks for accepting the invitation, firecoins. :) nt |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Show your work. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
80. I posted above. The EMT worker didn't have to be in NY. He could have caught |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. He claims he went to NY after the 1st plane and before the 2nd. nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. He would have had to have wings in order to do that. There is still rush hour at the time |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. The frantic debunking is amusing. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Impressive, eh? That's what a concerted effort to discover the truth looks like.nt |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Frantic debunking is a rush to judgment, not a quest for truth. nt |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. A rush to judgement has no consideration for fact checking. nt |
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piobair (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I don't see it |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I assumed petgoat was talking about the 5 threads at JREF. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Welcome to DU, piobair! |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It's a virtue to be comfortable with ambiguity, but goddam. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I did take a stand: Wait and See. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. O, brother where art thou? |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. What in the hell does this have to do with global warming? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. CTists aren't known for their senses of humor and irony. nt |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Well, brother, you don't know me. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I didn't know that. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Yes, I got that (it couldn't have been more obvious) |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Bullshit, that's pathetic. You aren't tracking the conversation. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. There you go again. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. His emails are a bundle of improbable lies. See post #1. n/t |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. See post #39. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. No evidence yet that he was. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. But it discredits the theory that it's an improbable lie. n/t |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Not without evidence, it doesn't. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. The possibility exists. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. The 2 possibilities exist that "Mike" is a so-called OCTer, and that |
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piobair (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. with regards to the broadcast |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. How many people do you think were necessary to pull off |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I also think it's possible... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Deleted message |
JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
66. I am demolition agnostic but OCTs obviously exaggerate the logistics... |
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piobair (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-12-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
76. The number of technicians is a good question. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. From the article at the link I provided below |
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Taxloss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. You know what's really amusing? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It has to do with subject matter |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. So? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. This is about the dynamic in this forum |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-16-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. So? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Yes, your attempt to disbunk my post is amusing, petgoat. n/t |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Plus, he added the portion about you after piobair's reply. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
29. Deleted message |
greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Your prisonplanet link is a day old. |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Want to know what's obsolete? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
48. How do you know the email wasn't composed by a few so-called OCTers who want to make CTists |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I don't think it was. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Yeah, neither do I. nt |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. This letter hit just after D'ohP got banned from LCF, right? n/t |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. I'm not familiar enough with LCF to know. * Search for "rediculous" |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-10-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. It wouldn't surprise me... |
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firecoins (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-11-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. curious |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-12-07 06:52 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. It's more likely to be someone trying to get paid by Avery, Rowe, and Bermas. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-21-07 03:58 AM Response to Original message |
77. . nt |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
78. Kick to add link to another Truther fraud: |
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catnhatnh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-14-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
86. For what it's worth...I was an EMT-B and have worked a building collapse... |
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DrBlix (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-15-07 03:08 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Collapse of WTC Building 7 Video |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-16-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. 9/11 Conspiracists - "Believe Your Eyes" video |
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