Where are these Atta, Al Omari, Al Ghamdi etc?

[Andre II]

Right after 9/11 several press reports pointed out that Mohammed Atta had gone
to the International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama.
Al-Omari to the Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force Base in Texas; and
Al-Ghamdi to the Defense Language Institute at the Presidio in Monterey, Calif.
Saeed Al-Ghamdi, Ahmad Al-Nami and Ahmed Al-Ghamdi trained in Naval Air Station Pensacola.
After an Air Force Statement claimed that the alleged hijackers are “probably”
not identical to the alumnis of U.S. military courses the media of course ceased to report on the issue.

Yet, there remains a very simple question:
Why has none of these alumnis “probably” not being identical to the alleged hijackers ever been interviewed, appeared in the media?

[ma2007]

1. Do not ask logical questions

because people here prefer to speculate about theories, which is more fun and not so much demanding action.
Such a question as yours could be asked to the media i.e., to any journalist and politician.
It is too easy.

A good tricky theory leaves the end open and does not make anybody responsible. Mytery tellers have a standing like novelists in comparison to school book authors.

It is all about entertainment, you know.

[KJF]

2. Completely off topic

Have you seen this?
http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/2001/miamiherald100301b.html

I fell off my chair.

On edit: I didn't feel off my chair, I fell off it.

[naboo]

3. I think it gets ignored because

the only sources for the information on the "hijackers" are liars. It's a frame job, why analyse it? It's like studying the false alibi of a convicted murderer. The oct ignore it because they know no one is going to discover anything by looking at the "hijackers" too closely because there weren't any.

[Andre II]

5. Sorry, this is nonsense

It is one question if these planes were really hijacked etc. It is another what these ALLEGED hijackers did. And analyzing their lifes brings you right into the center of 9/11 and reveales interesting little details such as these 24 questions that not a single OCTer ever managed to answer.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x119843

And these questions even demonstrate to people unfamiliar with any stuff on 9/11 how much was lied. It is a pure shame that scetptics couldn't care less. The issue of the alleged hijackers isn't sexy enough. Even proving Atta being at two different places at the very same time only wakes up very few people.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x74007

[treestar]

4. Arabic names can be confusingly similar

And when Arabs get into the U.S., they don't always choose a consistent way of putting their names - some leave off their grandfather's name or the clan name. Or always spell them the same way (for instance, two brothers might choose to transliterate the same name two different ways)

The FBI does "name checks" on potential immigrants, and inclusion of the name "Mohammed" can cause this check to take months to complete.

So this is not really that suspicious, since any Arabic male who ever went to any of the institutes could have a name somewhat like another's.

[Andre II]

6. Not the issue

"So this is not really that suspicious, since any Arabic male who ever went to any of the institutes could have a name somewhat like another's."

Nowhere I said that the similiarity of arabic names was the issue. On the contrary. I have no problems believing that there are more than one Mohamed Atta in the world. But given the fact that the names of several alleged hijackers appeared on the list of military schools in the US and the official explanation was only a not very convincing "probably not the same as the hijackers" I wonder simply why the alumnis coincidentally having the very same name as the alleged hijackers haven't been interviewed or appeared in any form in the media. Not a single one.

[greyl]

7. Would the reason for their appearance be to appease conspiracists? nt

[ma2007]

8. Greyl: do you hate white backgrounds

so to put senseless letters on it ?

Concerning Atta: If the name would ever have been a problem (but there are passport numbers, visa numbers, dates of birth and place of birth, Photo and so on)

so if:
- why is not EVERY Mohammed a problem ? Answer see above: nobody would identify a person by just his name.

- why did they all have -more or less- their names in every document consistent with the others?

- why did they boook the flights under their names?

- and apart of the name "problem": even if you have five names but you are only ONE person you are unable to exist in different places in the same time. Except you are an angel, the devil in person or very holy.

- but even when they tried to cover their existence at places where they should not have been (the contrary seems to be the case), even if: then WHY ? As there were no problems with the official names.


We faces "made up existences", laying out traces wherever possible, even when not sensefull because of contradictions. Just a secret service manner to produce stories (yes, more than one). So they could change stories if one fell apart. It was not only names, it was i.e. the threat against airforce#1, the middle eastern guys visiting the Bush hotel in Sarasota, the alert times, responsibilities and so on. Stories, Narratives. Just an inside job.

[Andre II]

9. Yawn

I know that for critical minds as you greyl one official statement that the people at the military schools "probably" are not identical to the alleged hijackers is enough. Right?
As you might recall till September 15 the fact that people with the same names trained at military schools was all over the news. After the quoted official statement the media ceased to cover this issue. Although it should be really easy to figure out if these people are identical or not. Just meet them. But of course this would be too much asked for a real investigation I guess....

[greyl]

13. I'm pretty sure you didn't answer my question.

As usual: What is your point? What is your theory? What does this mean to you?

[Andre II]

14. You don't cease to make me laugh

Thanks a lot for that!!

I didn't answer your question?
"Would the reason for their appearance be to appease conspiracists?"
This is a question? Are you serious?
Maybe the reason why media should be interested in interviewing them has something to do with this strange word called "investigative journalism"?
Btw I'm not sure if you answered my question that the only official statement concerning the issue says that the people are "probably" not the same suffice for a critical thinker as you are???

"As usual: What is your point? What is your theory? What does this mean to you?"

As usual, greyl, you seem to be much more interested in other people's theory than in the issue itself.
Why is that?
Ever considered the possibility that I don't have any theory on this issue cause there is a huge lack of facts and evidence to base any theory upon.
So even if it hurts the feeling of critical thinkers who prefer to laugh about other people's hypothesises I'm sorry to tell you that all I want an all I'm asking for is that
there is finally an official statement concerning the issue
evidence presented
We have so many people in arabica countries having the same name and sharing part of the identities of the alleged hijackers who right after 9/11 appeared in the media stressing the fact that they have nothing to do with 9/11. Why has not one of the alumnis come forward to tell that he has nothing to do with 9/11 and why has the media never bothered to investigate this?

[oblivious]

10. A secure US military base would surely be able to identify a former student there.

The excuse that there may be several people with the same name is ridiculous.

Your point is very important. Red lights should be flashing. In a normal country, journalists should have been tripping over each other to find out the truth.

[hack89]

11. Have you ever considered ...

that except for a tiny corner of the internet, no one cares?

[Andre II]

12. Do you care?

Do you care, hack?
Or are you a critical thinker who is satisfied with an official "probably" (or did I miss ANY official statement after September 16)?