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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 03:38 PM
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Atta's car
Atta's car was found abandoned at Boston's Logan Airport. ( http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_suspects.html )

So how was this : Atta and Alomari first left a rented car at Logan Airport ( with some incriminating stuff in it. Flightmanuals in arabic I believe.) Then they rented another car (?) to go to Maine early in the morning 911 and caught a flight from Portland Airport back to Boston`s Logan Airport, that´s how it must have been?

( This is not my find. I found it on a page one shouldn´t link to here. )
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:09 PM
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1. The magic rental car.
Through Governor Connely's back, bouncing off his elbow, back through JFK's neck. Makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?

But conspiracy theorists are tin foil hat wearers, Right!!
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objection Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:12 PM
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2. F.Y.I. The Lechner affidavit
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:26 PM
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3. Moving much too fast
I was moving much too fast.
The theory is (of course) that Attas car was taken to Logan by some of the others.

( As for the things of found in Attas car. They seem to scream "frame up". The will for example. Have you read Robert Fisk on this? )
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 04:43 PM
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4. ALL of those labeled by bushco as 9/11 perps were framed.
Just like Oswald, James Earl Ray (remember, there was a car (Mustang) involved in framing him, too!), Galvan (sp) .

Framing Patsies is S.O.P. when the Gov't is involved.
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objection Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:10 PM
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5. keeping an open mind

if evidence was planted the police were therefore corrupt but the inference is not neccessarily that the suspects were not guilty.

There could alternatively have been a double game going on, a trail of evidence deliberately left by Atta, possibly intended as a deliberate decoy, knowing that it would later look like planted evidence, maybe with an accomplice waiting in the background to stir up the suggestion.

My hunch is that the Maine excursion took place because the jittery gang realised that they were being watched. In a panic they ran for cover overnight. The theory works whether or not they were framed. If investigators nearly caught up with them but failed to stop them, I reckon they'd be pretty quiet about that afterwards, don't you? It would also explain another issue, how the authorities were so quick to know them all afterwards. It would also explain Atta turning up so late to board the flight; he'd be out of sight for longer.
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 05:30 PM
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6. I just skimmed through
what you wrote about Ruppert on another thread. ( Giving him credit. )

You can´t be all that bad after all.

> "My hunch is that the Maine excursion took place because the jittery gang realised that they were being watched. In a panic they ran for cover overnight."

Only they went to Maine early in the morning 911.



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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 06:35 PM
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7. Wrote that
half asleep...
Now I woke up, thinking what did I write back there.
Nonsense ofcourse. They went there on the tenth.
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objection Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 08:11 PM
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8. They stayed overnight.

If they went to Maine to do business why not get back to Boston in good time on an evening flight?

Why risk missing the connection the next day?

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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 08:21 PM
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9. bolo can explain that in a way that's consistent with your reasoning.
.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 06:01 PM
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12. too bad your tomb-stoned...LOL
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 06:02 PM by number6
the convoluted twisted crap you put out is hilarious LOL


"There could alternatively have been a double game going on, a trail of evidence deliberately left by Atta, possibly intended as a deliberate decoy, knowing that it would later look like planted evidence, maybe with an accomplice waiting in the background to stir up the suggestion. "

:silly:
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:34 PM
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13. Thank You
for bring that to my attention.
And now, an authentic photo of said accomplice synchronizing his watch.



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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 12:17 AM
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17. that must be the alligator that ate all the parts from flight 77
;) that they didn't lay out in a hanger, like fl 800 and
the space shuttle ....
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 11:41 PM
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10. The evil ones
Mohammed Atta is one of an elite group of terrorist names that gets continually bandied about by Intelligence and the press. Mohammed Atta,OBL,Saddam,Al-Zarqari. There's always apparently one thats being featured by corporate globalist media. Constant reiteration of the named evil ones is needed to constantly streamline the masses into the required zombied but vengeful mind think. Mohammed Atta! Oh horrors!!. He's the one that piloted one of those airliners into the WTC. He's the one who poisoned and murdered his own citizens. He's the evil plot master. He's the one who beheaded that young fellow,what was his name...oh yes...Nick Berg. He's the one who was the "Ringmaster" on 9-11. He's the one who left his will and a koran in his luggage. He's the one who allowed his soldiers to kill babies by throwing them out of incubators. He's the one who master minded the bombing of the USS Cole and then plotted with other evil Arab fanatics to bring down the Towers. He's the one we saw on the video.He's the one who chopped off that poor innocent young man's head. Yes it's the evil Arab featured one of the week or the month with the possibility of reruns.
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-04 10:03 AM
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11. Well, you have to admit "Mohammed Atta" sounds more menacing than..
"Patsy".
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 08:59 PM
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14. Atta-boy
Reports say both men's names were linked to a rental car found at Boston's Logan airport. It apparently contained Arabic-language flight manuals and the names of some of the other suspects.
Another rental car belonging to other suspects was found at a jetport in Portland, Maine. And that discovery has led to speculation about a Canadian connection.
American reports say the men in that car went to Maine from Canada.
One report said there were ticket stubs in the car indicating they rode the ferry from Nova Scotia. Still other reports say hijackers entered the U.S. from other countries, including England and the Bahamas.
http://www.cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/2001/09/13/leadall010913

Last Updated Wed Sep 12 23:39:32 2001
Earlier, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien spoke to U.S. President George Bush about reports that two of the terrorists may have entered the country through Canada.
Maine's governor, Angus King, told Associated Press they left behind a rental car, which has been impounded, containing a flight manual written in Arabic. Other officials cautioned that the information is still preliminary.
<snip>
There's still no clear sign who was responsible for the attacks, but authorities continue to investigate whether Islamic fundamentalist Osama bin Laden, based in Afghanistan, is connected.
Afghanistan's ruling Taliban party says talk of extraditing him is premature. A local newspaper has issued a statement that it says is from bin Laden, denying responsibility.
http://www.cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/2001/09/12/attacks010912

Plane tickets for seven people suspected of being the hijackers were purchased with one credit card, information federal investigators deem extremely critical evidence, sources told CNN.
The credit card apparently belonged to a material witness picked up in Boston, not one of the hijackers.
Two of the hijackers apparently came to the United States from Nova Scotia, Canada, crossing the border via a ferry to Bar Harbor, Maine, sources said.
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Interpol are assisting U.S. law enforcement in retracing their steps in Canada.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/investigation.terrorism/

In Halifax, RCMP investigators impounded a late-model Chevrolet Malibu at the Avis car rental lot at the Halifax airport, saying that the seizure ''was ... in connection with the situation in the US.''
Investigators in Portland, Maine, were looking into the possibility that two terrorists had stayed in Room 232 of the South Portland Comfort Inn before their departure. Police spent much of the day inside Room 232 and questioned guests in neighboring rooms.
At 6 a.m. Tuesday, two suspects were caught by security cameras boarding Flight 5930 from Portland to Boston, due to arrive in Boston 50 minutes later, said Michael Chitwood, Portland's chief of police.
''They had dark hair, olive-dark complexions, and casually dressed,'' Chitwood said. ''One seemed to be carrying a strap with a small bag attached, and the other guy was just picking his bag up. ... They weren't from Maine.''
Then, later Tuesday, State Police in Portland impounded a second rental car, a 2001 silver Nissan Altima, with Massachusetts plates. Governor Angus King of Maine and Chitwood said that the FBI believes that the pair may have left Portland for Logan Airport in Boston. State Police were processing the vehicle for evidence last night.
http://www.boston.com/news/packages/underattack/globe_stories/0913/Seeking_trail_of_suspects_across_borders+.shtml

Vincent Cannistraro, a former chief of counter intelligence for the CIA, said authorities believe the hijackers may have entered the U.S. via two Maine border points -- Jackson, a remote site near Armstrong, Que., and Portland, via the ferry from Yarmouth, N.S.
"As many as five people came across from Canada," said Mr. Cannistraro, who was in contact with people close to the investigation.
He said the five terrorists went to Bangor, Me., where "they boarded a feeder plane but only three of them could get on board because it was full and the other two went on to Portland and got a flight from Portland."
They all flew to Logan Airport in Boston where they regrouped.
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8089

As investigators pursued new leads on Saturday, some old ones seemed to be falling apart. And new ones with odd twists were emerging. An FBI spokeswoman said the agency is working on 1,000 leads in Florida alone.
Among those leads are The Washington Post story about a possible U.S. role in the training of the pilots. A man named Saeed Alghamdi graduated from the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, the Post reported. Men with the same names as two other suspected hijackers, Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari, appear as graduates of the U.S. International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., and the Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, respectively.
“Some of the FBI suspects had names similar to those used by foreign alumni of U.S. military courses,” the Air Force said in a statement. “However, discrepancies in their biographical data, such as birth dates 20 years off, indicate we are probably not talking about the same people.”
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-culprits16.story

Police and law enforcement sources said the two brothers suspected in the Boston hijackings were ADNAN BUKHARI and AMEER ABBAS BUKHARI, who up until recent days had lived in Vero Beach, Florida. Both of their homes have been searched, the sources said.
The two rented a car, a silver-blue Nissan Altima, from an Alamo car rental at Boston's Logan Airport and drove to an airport in Portland, Maine, where they got on US AIRWAYS FLIGHT 5930 at 6 a.m. Tuesday headed back to Boston, the sources said.
Investigators are analyzing videotapes at the car rental facility and at the Maine airport.
Before CNN learned the identities of the two brothers, Portland Police Chief Mike Chitwood said, "I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS DID GET ON A PLANE AND FLY TO BOSTON EARLY YESTERDAY MORNING ... I can tell you that they are the focus of a federal investigation."
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/english/200109/13/print20010913_80131.html

Go figure.
Three rental cars abandoned at three separate airports.
A gold?silver?blue? Chevy Malibu from Avis in Halifax,
A silver?blue? Nissan Altima from Alamo in Portland Jetport and
A white Mitsubishi from National Car Rental in Logan International.
Who the heck rented these multicoloured vehicles anyway?
Ata
Atta
Attta
or someone else?

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 09:06 AM
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15. It's a weird thing with the trail of evidence...
On the one hand, Atta et al wouldn't want to be discovered before 9/11 took place. On the other, they wouldn't want to do anything to cover their tracks completely, because they'd want people to know who was responsible... no point in a terror attack where your message doesn't get across because no one knows who you are.

The flight manual and all seems waaaaaay too convenient, though.
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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 10:28 AM
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16. They also wouldn't want to risk looking like they weren't the REAL perps
Terrorists rarely leave so many "calling cards" as Osama's "boys" did (according to the U.S. Gov't). If Al Quaeda wanted to claim responsibility for the attacks, they could have done so regardless of whether or not there was any evidence (or "evidence") conveniently left behind. By leaving so much evidence, you run the risk that people will think you had been framed and you are being made a Patsy.

Al Queada not only didn't claim credit for the attacks; OBL specifically said they had nothing to do with them. {which is why the CIA had to make a fake tape in which OBL supposedly "admits" responsibility)
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 04:34 AM
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18. Why

would Atta want people to know who was responsible?

From whence would that supposed insight come from?

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