List of Morons Who Slipped Up And Practically Admitted 9/11 Was An Inside Job

[flashl]

Lookingglass Blog

Partial list:
1. Bush saw the first plane hit live on tv
2. Rumsfeld Says Flight 93 was shot down
3. Rumsfeld Says Missle Hit Pentagon
4. NYC Mayor Slips- Knew Collpase in Advance

[dailykoff]

1. And then there's Larry "pull it" silverstein

[flashl]

2. Whats amazing thats in the court records.

[SDuderstadt]

7. More nonsense...

For the record, Silverstein said, "THEY decided to pull it" (the truthers dishonestly misquote him as saying, "I decided..."). Beyond that, the "truthers" dishonestly claim that "pull it" referred to WTC 7, when it is clear it referred to pulling rescue teams out of the building. When used to refer to demolishing a building, "pull" means to attach cables to a failing structure and literally pull it over. The silly claims of the various "truth movement" factions are so illogical, they can be debunked easily by any critical thinker. The dishonesty on the part of the "truthers" is staggering and, frankly, an utter embarrassment to the progressive movement.

[Name removed]

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[Echo In Light]

10. Thanks for that. Never underestimate the power of denial

[Echo In Light]

11. Link

Reopen 9/11
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3504162044377061763&q=9%2F11&total=58954&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

12. You're welcome -- Denial is certainly very powerful...

...and none of us are immune to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

[SDuderstadt]

13. And, of course, you totally miss the point....

and have to resort to insults in the process.

I was in a rush when I responded as I was on my way out the door to a memorial service. I plead guilty to one count of trying to quote from memory and getting it slightly wrong. However, I'm not sure that saying "they decided" rather than "they made the decision" is all that critical when the point was that some in the "truth" movement have dishonestly made the charge that Silverstein admitted that HE made the decision - or decided - (http://www.serendipity.li/wot/wtc7newspaper.htm) when it is clear from what he said that the commanders of the FDNY made the decision.

Even more so, simply reading the comments made by the FDNY reveals quite clearly that they believed that the fire had damaged WTC 7 so badly that they feared collapse to the point where they had established a collapse zone and subsequently decided to "pull" the rescue team to avoid further loss of life. http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/Nigro_Daniel.txt

What about that is so hard to understand?

It's even more disingenuous to claim or imply that Dailykoff referring to Silverstein as "Larry "pull it" Silverstein meant anything other to claim or imply that WTC 7 was intentionally demolished and that Silverstein ordered it. If she was, instead, commending him for his concern for the firefighter's lives to the point where he agreed with the need to withdraw them from the collapse zone, she needs to make that clear. In the meantime, I'm not holding my breath.

Notice how I did that? I didn't insult you one time. If you want to continue this debate, I'd thank you to do the same.

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[Bolo Boffin]

15. I missed the apology in that post.

Would you like to try again?

[SDuderstadt]

20. Truther strategy 101

If your post gets deleted because you resorted to name-calling, claim it was deleted instead because you "hit a little too close to the truth". Pathetic.

[truth01]

3. Link for number 4...

http://www.911podcasts.com/files/feeds/PiecesOfThePuzzleBox1.html

Scroll down to "What did Rudy Giuliani say about the collapse of WTC "

[truth01]

4. OK, I see that you have links. The one that I gave is also a podcast...

Thanks.

[Flatulo]

5. Thousands of witnesses claim they saw the first plane hit WTC

Are they all liars? Are they all in on it and just 'slipped'?

Or is it possible that, post facto, they knew that a plane had hit, and were speaking of what was now a clear fact, that a plane had hit the WTC?

By analogy, if I come across two vehicles crushed into each other, would I be lying if I said I saw a car crash? I didn't actually see them crash, but I could infer after the fact that that was what happened.

This is by far one of the lamest cases the Truth movement has - using early comments from clueless folks to infer wild theories.

Frankly, this kind of argument is just a huge turnoff because it is so intellectually dishonest and won't sway anyone.

[CJCRANE]

6. Um...

are you sure it was 1000's? And weren't most of those in Manhattan at the actual scene?

I'm sure the people who claimed that were

a)not in Florida and
b)not a govt official responsible for preventing/reacting to this kind of thing.

There's a big difference.

[SDuderstadt]

8. Link that supports Flatulo's claim

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/whattheysaw%3Aeyewitnessaccountsofthenycai

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. yes there were planes

but what type of planes?

[hack89]

17. Boeing 767s

unless you have proof of something else?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. flying

I don't think you can fly 767s with that precision and not at that speed and height that's my opinion. I think they were probably something a little smaller.

[hack89]

19. What precision?

They hit a building 50 feet wider than their wingspan and at a height of 800 feet. That's precision flying?

The buildings were wider then the runways at Logan - if they can't possibly hit the WTC how are they able to land?

http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/bos1432opening112006.php

I think you need to think this one over.

on edit: usually aircraft are more controllable the faster they are flying

[Rosa Luxemburg]

21. I think that the planes were smaller

[hack89]

23. Based on what? nt

[Sweet Pea]

25. Re-Read Hack's Post

And then come back *again* and say they had to be smaller aircraft because 787's can't do that sort of flying (which is an absolutely absurd comment).

[nebula]

26. Since when do planes fly through concrete and steel skyscrapers

with their nose intact coming out the other side?

only in a cartoon or a badly edited, photoshopped video.

Dan Rather: "the plane pierced the building and virtually came out the other side."

yeah sure it did. lol.

[AZCat]

29. That is not the conclusion of the NIST report.

They agree with you that the nose did not exit from the building intact.

[Laurier]

22. Do you really believe that?

Do you really believe that these were "admissions" that 9/11 was an inside job pulled off by the Bush administration?

Do you really believe that the idiots named above could pull off an "inside job" that would require thousands of people to be in on the cover-up, and simultaneously be so utterly inept as to "slip up" and publicly "admit" that they'd pulled off an "inside job", and that nobody but a small group of fringe conspiracy fantasists on the internet would notice?

[Laurier]

24. Kick.

Seriously?

[nebula]

27. Rumsfeld Said Flight 93 was shot down

Rumsfeld Said Missile Hit Pentagon.


What would you call that then, if not a clear admission of guilt??

A bad joke? :rofl:

[Laurier]

28. So, were you planning on answering the question any time soon with

a legitimate and rational response or are you content to simply roll on the floor laughing, as indicated by your post?

[jberryhill]

30. And your definition of "missile" is....

....something other than a projectile?

A missile *DID* hit the Pentagon.

These are pebbles:



This amazing device turns them into missiles:




Main Entry:
missile
Function:
noun
Date:
circa 1656

: an object (as a weapon) thrown or projected usu. so as to strike something at a distance


My goodness, if I was to believe Merriam Webster, then missiles have been around since 1656.