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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:15 PM
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9/11 Truth: How Did Those Buildings Come Down?
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 10:29 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cdkyUdVDqM


Sprawling on the fringes of the city
In geometric order
An insulated border
In between the bright lights
And the far unlit unknown

Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone
Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone


(Subdivisions)
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
(Subdivisions)
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help disprove the unattractive truth
But the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth

Drawn like moths we drift into the city
The timeless old attraction
Cruising for the action
Lit up like a firefly
Just to feel the living night

Well some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights...

(Subdivisions)
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
(Subdivisions)
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help disprove the unattractive truth
But the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth

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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:10 AM
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1. Uniquely
Suspiciously
Unusually
Mysteriously
Quickly
Uniformly

"Any escape might help disprove the unattractive truth"
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:35 AM
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2. Typical Troother nonsense
Don't you ever get tired of posting ridiculous you-tube videos that are designed to misinform lazy people?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:31 AM
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3. Apparently not...nt
Sid
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:51 AM
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5. That is correct but
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 10:52 AM by seemslikeadream
if you find any discrepancies in the videos just let me know
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:04 AM
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6. So, you agree with all the statements in the video?...
Sid
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:16 AM
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7. If you find a statement you'd like to discuss let me know
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:37 AM
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8. OK....
"(September 12, 2001-May 2002): Recovery Workers Find WTC Pulverized to Dust from Collapses"

There was 200,000 tons of structural steel recovered that was not pulverized.

Sid
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:42 AM
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9. Could you give me a link to that 200,000 tons?
I'd like to read that first
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:00 PM
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11. The number, and link, are in your source...nt
Sid
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:17 PM
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12. Then what is your problem?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 12:22 PM by seemslikeadream
I guess I misunderstood you
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:55 PM
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13. My problem is that your own source contradicts itself...nt
Sid
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:40 PM
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14. No it does not
"(September 12, 2001-May 2002): Recovery Workers Find WTC Pulverized to Dust from Collapses"

There was 200,000 tons of structural steel recovered that was not pulverized.





Where does it say ALL?

Recovery Workers Find WTC Pulverized to Dust from Collapses"



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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:58 PM
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15. Where does it say "some"?...nt
Sid
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:00 PM
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16. IT DOES NOT SAY ALL
That's all from me on this question, have another?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:14 PM
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17. No, I think that's enough...nt
Sid
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:35 PM
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20. Does it trouble you at all that there are many people that
actually buy into the 9/11 was an inside job because they think videos like that are telling them the truth?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:37 PM
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21. It troubles me so much more that so many people believe the lies told by georgie
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:38 PM by seemslikeadream
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:38 PM
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24. Fascinating, you are troubled by Bush's actions yet you mimic him -nt
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:40 PM by LARED
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:40 PM
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26. No I do not and by the way I AM NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES either
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:41 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1528134

What the Little Turd from Crawford said 6 Years Ago Today
The crazy monkey received a briefing from the CIA entitled:

Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the United States



Of course, the dysfunctional ignoramus couldn't connect a dot if our lives depended on it.




The Covered-Up Meeting

By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Monday, October 2, 2006; 1:12 PM

The "State of Denial" in the title of Bob Woodward's new book describes President Bush's ongoing refusal to see the true consequences of the war he launched in Iraq.

But one of the book's most notable revelations suggests that the Bush White House was in another state of denial more than five years ago, this one about the threat of terrorism before September 11, 2001.

If the omniscient narrator of Woodward's book is to be believed, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice waved off warnings that should by any reasonable standard have put the government on high alert for an al-Qaeda attack.

And in what looks like a potential administration cover-up, Rice and the other participants in that meeting apparently never mentioned it to anyone, including investigators for the 9/11 Commission.

SNIP…

And a month later, as Ron Suskind reported in his book, "The One Percent Doctrine," an unnamed CIA briefer flew to Bush's Texas ranch to call the president's attention personally to the now-famous Aug. 6, 2001, memo titled 'Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.' According to Suskind, Bush heard the briefer out and replied: "All right. You've covered your ass, now."

CONTINUED…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/...




"All right. You've covered your ass, now."

How different our world would be if this gangster had, instead, said” “All right. What can we do about it?”
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:42 PM
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28. Now your moving the goal posts
You are pointing out a lie by commission. That is different than a lie by omission.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:44 PM
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30. No I AM NOT
I sorry is SD sleeping?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:48 PM
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33. Yes you are. I am addressing your willingness to mimic Bush's
use of lies by omission. You changed to subject to Bush's lies of commission. I am NOT accusing you or the video of lying by commission.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:49 PM
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35. Just when do you think SD will wake up?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:52 PM
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37. I would be interested in his opinion of your
apparent low ethical standards.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:54 PM
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39. I would not be interested in ANYTHING coming from his mind
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:56 PM by seemslikeadream
but I would be interested in his opinion of your apparent low ethical standards.


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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:56 PM
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41. Care to back up the charge I have low ethical standards? - nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:59 PM
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43. Care to back up the charge I have low ethical standards?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 06:00 PM by seemslikeadream


YOU FIRST
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:02 PM
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46. Simple - you apparently have no problem using lies by omission
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 06:03 PM by LARED
to win people to your side.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:03 PM
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47. That's your opinion with no back up BYE
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:04 PM
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49. That's not a opinion - your post establishes it as fact. -nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:16 PM
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51. No sweetie that is your opinion not fact
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 06:16 PM by seemslikeadream
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:34 PM
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52. Denial is not a river in Egypt - nt
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 12:11 PM
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53. instead it's the state of mind of OCTers. nt
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 12:27 PM
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54. Thanks for the kick - nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:02 PM
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45. SD opinion of low ethical standards?? Mr. spelling B
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 06:02 PM by seemslikeadream
:rofl:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:50 AM
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4. All the information in the video comes from here
http://www.historycommons.org/


and I believe it is correct
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:59 AM
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10. Most statements are statements of opinion...
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 12:05 PM by SidDithers
not statement of fact. They may or may not be accurate, and certainly can't be disputed. If a witness thinks something looks like a controlled demolition, then how can they be wrong about what they think?

Sid

edit: spelling
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:24 PM
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18. It may be correct but it is still designed to misinform
It like when Mom say "SLAD is your room clean?"

And you say "yes mom," when in reality you just took all the junk on the floor and stuffed it under the bed.

You do understand lies by omission, yes? The video is a text book case.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:34 PM
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19. You do understand lies by omission, yes? OF COURSE
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:35 PM by seemslikeadream
I've been living through 7 years of the georgie administration, and previous ones as well


Oh so many lies of omission I could not count them all
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:37 PM
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22. So Bush's lies by ommission provide you with the
justification to do the same thing?

Nice
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:38 PM
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23. I did not say that quit putting words in my mouth
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:44 PM
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29. Thanks. but changing the subject will not help your position -nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:45 PM
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31. Tell SD about that
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:45 PM by seemslikeadream
I thought that tactic was acceptable here

OK for you guys but not for me huh?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:46 PM
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Thanks. but changing the subject will not help your position
With you? Like I really care!
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:50 PM
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36. I care. Are you such an ideologue that you will use the tactic of
lies by omission to convince people to your side?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:52 PM
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38. I believe you misunderstood me, AGAIN
I don't care what YOU think, singular.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:55 PM
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40. I understand completely
1. You will not argue that the video does not employ lies by omission

2. You will not face the fact that you feel justified to use that tactic because the opposition does.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:58 PM
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42. So you misunderstand me AGAIN
I HAVE NO INTENTION OF TAKING ANYTHING YOU POST SERIOUSLY

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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:01 PM
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44. Ignoring this issue will not make it go away - Step out into the light
and admit you made a mistake. You'll feel better.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:04 PM
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48. You are the one making a mistake go ahead admit it you'll feel so much better
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 06:04 PM by seemslikeadream
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:05 PM
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50. That mistake would be what? -nt
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