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29) 8:40 a.m. Nasty and Duff are the code names of the two F-15 pilots from the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts who would scramble after United Airlines Flight 175. Nasty says that at this time, a colleague tells him that a flight out of Boston has been hijacked, and to be on alert. They put on their flight gear and get ready.
8:46 a.m.: NORAD orders the 102nd Fighter Wing of the Otis Air National Guard Base in Falmouth, Massachusetts to scramble two of their F-15 fighters. This is from the 102nd Fighter Wing's mission statement of September 11, 2001. "Our aircraft and their crews are on continuous 24-hour, 365-day alert to guard our skies. The 102nd Fighter Wing's area of responsibility includes over 500,000 square miles, 90 million people, and the major industrial centers of Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C."
NORAD, by their own account, held on to this most vital information of these two hijacking for at least 6 minutes before ordering Otis to scramble. NORAD may have held on to the vital information of American Airlines Flight 11 for perhaps 8 minutes, maybe 10 minutes (see 8:36 a.m. # 25 statement by NORAD spokesman, Major Mike Snyder), possibly up to 26 minutes (see 8:20 a.m. # 14 American Airlines Flight 11 transponder signal stopped transmitting its IFF beacon signal) and let us not forget that the last transmission of American Airlines Flight 11 with Boston air traffic control occurred at 8:13:31, so maybe NORAD had over 32 minutes before they notified Otis to scramble their two F-15’s.
How could NORAD possibly hold on to the 8:40 information of the American Airlines Flight 11 hijacking, and not immediately scrambled Otis? How could NORAD possibly hold on to the 8:43 information of the United Airlines Flight 175 hijacking, and not have immediately scrambled Otis? How could NORAD, by their own account, hold on to the most vital information of both of these hijackings for three and six full minutes before notifying Otis to scramble?
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http://www.worldnewsstand.net/2002/new/1.htmAmerica's defence establishment has disclosed that it ordered its fighter jets to intercept ALL the passenger aircraft hijacked in last week's attacks on New York and Washington.... The data made clear that military intelligence was aware of the hijackings – and possibly the suicidal nature of their mission – before ANY of the aircraft had hit their targets. It also raised questions about who ordered the fighter jets to undertake their intercept mission and what their instructions would have been in the event that they successfully caught up with a passenger aircraft while it was still in the air.... The US Vice-President, Dick Cheney, revealed in a television interview over the weekend that President George Bush had given an order last Tuesday for the military to shoot down any civilian aircraft that disregarded instructions from air traffic control and appeared to be a threat.
However, Mr Cheney and Mr Bush explained that the presidential order was given only after the first three planes had hit their targets.... Last week, rumours surfaced that Flight 93 had been shot down by the military.
—The Independant, London, England, 20 September 2001
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This is an excerpt from the UK Telegraph on the pilots.
"Within minutes of the second plane crashing they were over Manhattan. "It was a very surreal experience," says Duff. "It was like you were in the middle of a bad B movie flying over Central Park chasing down air planes and watching the Towers burning and flying by the Statue of Liberty."
As they circled, they were told that there were other hijacked planes. In Washington Dick Cheney, the vice-president, had been taken to a bunker under the White House.
In a conversation with President Bush, who was in Florida, it was decided to order fighters to shoot down any hijacked aircraft heading towards major cities. "We will take lives in the air to preserve lives on the ground," came the instructions.
"The New York controller came over the radio and said if we have another hijacked aircraft you're going to have to shoot it down," said Nasty.
Both men recall the silence that followed as they tried to absorb what the order meant. They also flew commercial aircraft and now they were being told to use their missiles against planes with civilians on board. They had never trained for such a moment."
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This gives the impression that they recieved these orders immediately after they arrived but they actually didn't recieve any orders until after the report came in that 77 supposedly hit the pentagon.
also this excerpt shows what was going on in the cockpit.
"I was just trying to find out where the contact was," said Duff, "and they told me he's over Kennedy airport." That was United Flight 175 turning towards the Tower No 2.
Nasty and Duff continued flying for a couple more minutes but could not find the plane. At 9.05 am the second plane hit its target. "It was quite a shock," said Duff, "because we both thought there was only one aircraft."
These guys had no idea what was going on or what they were looking for. They were sent up blind and told to sit tight until they got some intel on what to do. There is no idication that they would have intercepted 93 if it would have entered New York airspace or that they would be able to identify it as a target unto it was too late. That's why they went so slow, they had no idea where they were going.
Now look at this...
http://www.911timeline.net/82) 9:30 a.m.: Two maybe three F-16 Fighting Falcons code-named Huntress take off from Langley AFB headed at first toward at NYC. A couple of minutes into their mission, according to General Haugen "A person came on the radio and identified themselves as being with the Secret Service" and said, "I want you to protect the White House at all costs." The F-16’s laid in a new course and vectored to Washington D.C.
Why were these fighters headed to NYC when American Airlines Flight 77 has been headed directly for Washington D.C. for the last 31 minutes, and with their communication and transponder turned off for 34 minutes? There are no airliners headed for NYC or anywhere else with their communication and transponders turned off. Also, at 9:25 air traffic controllers have already informed the US Secret Service in Washington D.C. that American Airlines Flight 77 is approaching them very fast. So why are these F-16’s first flying toward NYC?
Also, in the Naudet Video, America Remembers they talk about a report of a third plane coming in. I have posted an extract of this video on my home page.
http://users.adelphia.net/~mikelewis1971/naudet clip.mpg
///In this excerpt, you can also hear an explosion long before the collapse and also you can hear the explosions as the first tower collapses.////
My point is that the plane could have sailed on right past them and they wouldn't even have the slightest clue of what to do. NORAD was feeding the information to these guys and the information was unreliable at best and late. If Major Rick Gibney from 119th Fighter Wing hadn't intercepted and shot down the plane, for which he recieved a medal, then the plane could have gone on to New York and sailed right past the 2 blind pilots.
Also keep in mind, there were U.S. sponsored wargames...
"Pull it" also is fire fighter vernacucular for pulling the hoses,ceasing operation. If Silverstein implies that he and NY's finest decided to "pull it",meaning demolishing it at that juncture,then the New York Fire Dept would have been complicit in a determination to collapse the building. That's a big step involving a whole lot more people.There is no idication that he meant this at all. Silverstein is a building contractor. He would be more comfortable with demolition terminology than refering to firemen terminology. He is describing a cause and effect scenario. The decision was made to pull it and then we watched it fall. Pull it has also been used to describe masterbation. Maybe they were all jerking off as they watched the building blow up. I wouldn't put it past them. Also this wouldn't make the Fire Department complicit, this would make that Fire Chief complicit. This is a big step involving a whole lot more cash. Silversteins putting the squeeze on to get the money he wants from the insurance settlement.
And I do appreciate your questions, I hadn't considered the flight from Otis but even so there was no way the plane could have gotten through the DC patrols either if there were kill orders given and good intel. This also has the effect of reducing the White House scenario to speculation.
Sincerely,
Michael Lewis