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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:18 PM
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Still think 911 wasn't a conspiracy? Put this in your pipe and smoke it
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/august2004/082604alexwarned.htm


In July 2001, Alex Jones Warned of Globalist Plan to Use Bin Laden to Attack America

During the months of July and August 2001, Alex Jones ran a campaign which he dubbed 'Expose the Government Terrorists' on both his TV and radio shows. He encouraged people to call the White House and tell them not to go ahead and launched the staged terror attack that would become the foundation of their push for martial law.

On Wednesday July 25th 2001, during a taping of Alex's local cable access TV show in Austin, Texas, he elaborated on how the Globalists were set to use their operative Osama bin Laden and that the preparations for a terror attack were in their final stages.

Alex didn't have a crystal ball, he merely studied the elite's propaganda and was able to connect the dots and make a prediction that would materialize on September 11, 2001.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:22 PM
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1. as crazy as alex jones may seem
this government is crazier and they continually prove him right.

maybe they are all reptilian.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:23 PM
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2. have you seen that before. (nt)
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:53 PM
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19. Crazy? I think he looked very serious and trustworthy
Not to mention that what he said came true ;-)

Good post again, goodboy! Recommended! I'm looking forward to your next post :popcorn: :wow:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 04:01 PM
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36. They ARE reptilian!
I don't know who this Jones guy is, but it's true: we have been invaded by alien lizards.

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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 04:03 PM
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37. I'll kick this again by complementing your work, SR
It's freakin' good! :-)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 04:40 PM
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39. Here's my latest:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:15 PM
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45. BWAHAHAHA! General Ripper!
:thumbsup::rofl:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:04 PM
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43. LOL Holy Fuxxxin Shit, Swomp Raht, that one's brilliant!
:rofl:

* looks like he just snapped his lizard tongue back in his lizard lips...love the Scary Condi and Unhinged Rummy. Frist poison is a nice touch. LIke the Arnold clones.

LOL funny like Mike Malloy at his darkest, truest moments. Times like these are why black humor must exist.

The jester reveals the truth, as the Emperor marches by in his New (World Order) Clothes.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:17 PM
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47. Is Alex Jones crazy? I don't know much about him, but he seems to make a
lot more sense than others about what this administration is doing....:shrug:
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 07:49 PM
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57. It's the truth that seems so alien to us, because we're being conditioned
disbelieve.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:23 PM
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3. Wow! He had it down!
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:25 PM
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6. that's not all. I'll be posting some incredible shit soon. (nt)
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:25 PM
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4. alex is intense
but more often than not right
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:16 PM
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13. You should check this out:
www.infowars.com
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:25 PM
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5. WOW! I've never heard this before!
Edited on Sat May-21-05 01:25 PM by Quakerfriend
If it's real, how come we've never seen it before?

How can you proove this tape was actually taped in July, 2001?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:26 PM
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7. It was taped on July 25th 2001. check out the site..dig deep!
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:36 PM
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8. Anyone ever heard of Bohemian Grove? (nt)
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:43 PM
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9. That was a real scoop
I certainly don't always agree with Mr Jones (his UN conspiracies are kinda silly), but his video of the Bohemian Grove ritual is priceless. For all the nay-sayers who don't believe America's elite gather each summer to perform rituals in the worship of a giant wooden owl and fake human sacrifices, there's now video proof!

While he gets a little over-excited, and he's frankly rather indiscriminate, you can't help but like him.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:53 PM
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11. BOHEMIAN GROVE EXPOSED!
Jones is no doubt over the top and sometimes projects a bit too much, but what he obsesses over and forecasts often times resembles the reality in which we are heading, IMO...I think he's great for trying to expose the lies from another angle. I must say I enjoy his confrontational stunts and showmanship. He also gets info out there from sources that are often censored or ignored by the corporate media. I'll also say he often times lands great guests.



Alex Jones At Ground Zero
VIDEO, 2004, (23 minutes)
Alex Jones -- "I've Never Seen the Police State This Bad. This So-Called National Security Event Was, in Truth, Textbook Martial Law. My crew and I, despite having official NYC Press credentials, were threatened with arrest at least three times a day, had a still camera smashed by police, were detained twice, had photos taken of us by police and were told that we had no right to film in the City."-- Alex on the ground in New York for the Republican National Convention.
Download 27MB
http://www.sacredcow.com/media/source/alex/alex_2004/9-11_vox.wmv

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BBC Reporter Greg Palast: " this guy is a national treasure, a light breaking through the electronic Berlin Wall of the US media establishment."

http://infowars.com/alexjones.html
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GREG PALAST
Alex Jones Interviews Greg Palast, Award-winning reporter for BBC Television’s Newsnight and The Observer of London.

Palast has broken bombshell stories, from the election of 2000 to how the IMF and World Bank blow out economies, to the government prior knowledge of September 11th and Bush's connection to bin Laden.

Transcripts of Three Interviews Available:

Alex Jones Radio Show Interview of Greg Palast November 4, 2002
Alex Jones Radio Show, Monday (PM), March 4, 2002 (The Transcript of This Show Has Made It's Way Around the World, from Argentina to Turkey)

Alex Jones Radio Show, April 5, 2002

http://infowars.com/palast.htm
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Classic Jones stunts to bring mayhem and attention to an issue- he is generally on target though.

The State of Texas follows the Unconstitutional, illegal National ID Card model, requiring its citizens to thumbscan in order to get a driver's license. This is the famous anti-thumbscanning clip where Alex gets arrested at the DPS for refusing to thumbscan.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex_refuses_to_thumbscan.html
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This is what our World Leaders are up to when they're alone- Nixon, in tapes that were revealed several years ago, called them a 'bunch of faggots' as apparently there is a bit of orgiastic goings-on when they meet. I'm open minded but if it were not for the hypocrisy, this in and of itself is kinda freaky.


Since 1873, the Global Elite Has Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California. Members of the so-called "Bohemian Club" Include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of This All-Male "Club" Don Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual Wherein They Worship a Giant Stone Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the "Great Owl of Bohemia."

BOHEMIAN GROVE EXPOSED!
"Alex Jones Has Blown Bohemian Grove Wide Open!" John Sergeant, World of Wonder, UK Channel 4

Major media from CBS television, magazines like People and Spy have attempted and failed to get the hard video evidence that Alex Jones and his team have gotten out of Bohemian Grove.

Alex Jones: "This is like something out of a Hollywood movie, where teenagers are out camping in the wilderness and come over a hill and witness some devil cult in black and red garb sacrificing some poor soul on a bloody altar.

Realplayer clip-
http://www.prisonplanet.com/120603darksecrets.html
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http://infowars.com/bg1.html

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You can get a few of Jones' videos here -downloads for free...

http://mysite.verizon.net/res7dhyg/documentaries_2.html
or here
http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video.htm

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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 04:44 PM
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40. I think it's to Greg Palast's credit
that he supports Jones, as Palast is sort of a mainstream journalist, in the UK anyway (he's not conformist and servile enough to be mainstream in the US), and Alex Jones is what most people would label a "conspiracy theorists". People could use it against him that he supports Jones, but he doesn't care.

I agree that Alex Jones often has very interesting guests. I enjoy listening to his shows.
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flygal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:32 PM
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31. Ok, weird - I was just reading abou this
I'm reading a biography on Walt Disney and he was a member. Any info you know off hand to save me some googling?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:16 PM
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46. all you need is here:
www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:35 PM
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53. Yep...here in NorCal...creepy group of people (in real life)
Bohemian Club..think Skull & Bones...

I had a neighbor (thankfully he moved a few years ago) who was a member...he was araging alcholic and pervert...At first I thought he was just another rich, lonely old man who lived across the street...he lived in a 6 BR mansion w/ his dogs and had several martinis by 10AM each day...he was semi-retired except for working from home managing his investments...I swear he lived in shorts an T's except for when he'd "suit up" to head to the city for meetings w/ his Bohemian Club buddies on Nob Hill in San Francisco. A few times when he was rip rouring drunk and watering his plants outside while his dogs were outside, he'd talk about "lookin forward to the Grove and getting some cigars & pussy"...

He was a revolting creature...the more I got to know him, the more creeped out I got...He finally seemed to have hit the wall and when we started not talking to him after he tried to molest our nanny and made some really crude sexual remarks to me one day. Finally, we ended up having to get a restraining order against him (as did two other neighbors) when he walked into our house one day, just like that. I swear, I was afraid he was going to rape me. He ended up selling his house 2 years ago and moved to Palm Springs...he still comes to the Bay Area for the annual meeting at "The Grove"....
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 01:45 PM
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10. Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State


Alex Jones' new documentary. Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State exposes the high-tech control grid that is being set up across America Out of the ashes of the September 11th tragedy, a dark empire of war and tyranny has risen. The Constitution has been shredded and America is now a Police State. This film exposes not just who was behind the 9-11 attacks, but the roots and history of its orchestrators. The entire documentary is 2 hours and 35 minutes in duration but has been spit into 3 parts.

Part-I
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/alex_jones_-_martial_law_911__1_of_3_.wmv
Part-II
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/alex_jones_-_martial_law_911__2_of_3_.wmv
Part-III
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/martial_law_p03_bb.wmv


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Check ot the first part. GREAT FOOTAGE on the RNC convention protests in NYC.
Some amazing stuff captured on tape. Greg Palast, Cynthia MCKinney, Ron Paul, many others appear also.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:17 PM
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48. it goes where F-911 wouldn't DARE to go. (nt)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:02 PM
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12. KICK!
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ReverendDeuce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:27 PM
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14. Okay, maybe I'm the only naysayer...
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:32 PM
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15. There is truth in your post, just as there is truth in 'Alex'.
Simply worth a listen is all, as some things he hits the mark -IMO.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:39 PM
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16. my sentiments exactly. (nt)
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:58 PM
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21. Exactly
Not everything is true about conspiracy theories, but more often than not you'll notice - often later - that there was a lot of truth in there, so keep an open mind and don't doubt everything either ;)
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 04:52 PM
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41. true that
word
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:23 PM
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28. Your first reference sounds
like something he might of said in the 90's , when he was totally green.
To put it in perspective , he is 31 years old currently, and been on air since the mid 90's. If he said something like your second reference, It must be from a show early on in his show history.

But I call bullshit on that second reference of yours...If he had any evidence of something like that going on ...he'd never let his listeners hear the end of it.
And I haven't heard him make one mention of something like that in the past few years. He's actually gotten much better about falling for callers tall tales and repeatedly asks for backup evidence before he'll endorse a callers speculation.

He's also been better about posting his source documents. He does get a little wild when he references out some things he's overheard from friends and family...and he pushes his vids and those awful commercials way too much...But what do you expect from a personality like his?

did you catch his David Ray Griffin interview? it was excellent.
and he's good when he has Palast on...

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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:19 AM
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63. Have to agree with you...
Hello from Germany,
I did just watch about 3 of his hour-long videos that include about 3 minutes of information apart from the hysteria if at all.

He's really a paranoid right-wing conspiracy-nut.

People like him might be sometimes closer to the truth than people, who believe the mainstream-media but that's all.
If you predict so many things to happen one or the other might really become true.

To explain my attitude: a conspiracy-nut is someone, who's looking for a simple explanation for everything that is happening. Like a reversed religion: If there is no God, who rules it all, at least there has to be an evil force behind everything. Everything is better than the complex world we live in.

One does not have to become a conspiracy-nut to simply see the overwhelming evidence that the terror-attacks were nothing but false-flag terrorism commited by the Bush-Administration.


People like Alex Jones only harm our call for a real investigation.

Dirk

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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 05:31 AM
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65. so is this your reason to discount him
Edited on Sun May-22-05 05:34 AM by slaveplanet
"If you predict so many things to happen one or the other might really become true."

because he was right...or am i missing something in your logic?

2 big predictions of AJ

July 2001- government plans false flag operation using asset Bin Laden , probably in New York city...call White House and tell them you are on to their game.

Summer 2002- Iraq invasion will begin in Feb 2003. (He was off a month on this one)

pre·dict Audio pronunciation of "predict" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-dkt)
v. pre·dict·ed, pre·dict·ing, pre·dicts
v. tr.

To state, tell about, or make known in advance, especially on the basis of special knowledge.


v. intr.

To foretell something; prophesy.





Keep in mind he's only a frickin talk show host. Even he acknowledges his limitations, most of the info comes from evidence layed out by his guests....so that really only makes him a professional prediction repeater.

But if it makes you feel comfy to discount him because he was correct..so be it.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:39 PM
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17. David Ray Griffin links - everyone should watch or listen to his Madison
lecture. It can be viewed online, as can much more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39690
Thread title: David Ray Griffin evidence Bush admin complicit in 9/11 - update & links
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:46 PM
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18. You all have to see Alex interview David Gergen about Bohemian
Grove...priceless!! Alex gets Gergen so nervous..great!
The video should be in both of Alex's site's... somewhere?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 02:56 PM
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20. it's on both sites...infowars.com and prisonplanet.com
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:12 PM
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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:28 PM
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52. Watch yer mouth
"ugly slut" :puke:

You stink up the whole thread.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:42 PM
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54. Wow! I'd pay to see him take on Mann Coulter! n/t
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 11:48 AM
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67. Just gave the audio clip a listen through
Alex baited her and she bit..She's a brick. Dumb as a bag of hammers.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:01 PM
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42. It was priceless!!
He really didn't ecpect any questions about the Grove!

"Jones: Did you take part in any rituals, sir"

"Gergen: That's none of your damn business!"
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nittygritty Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:07 PM
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22. He's covered the vote fraud stories
before, too, on both his website and his radio show.
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:07 PM
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23. HOLY SHIT! WHAT DOES HE SAY WILL HAPPEN NEXT?
I never even heard of this guy til today; is it cuz I don't have cable?
Whatever the case, he NAILED IT, right on the money...
I sure would like to hear his views on WHAT NEXT???...
but I can't afford the $5.95 subscription!
:cry:
EXCELLENT post, goodboy... looking forward to this next one you're hinting at...
D
ps: Kicked/nominated!
pss: I wonder how this ties in with my own recent blockbuster expose?:


White House Secret Cloning Program Revealed, Then Utterly Ignored!


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3689805

(from the fourth and latest installment)
THE NIGHTMARE CANDY-COLORED DREAM-CLOWN OF THE APOCALYPSE IS NO MYTH! HE IS REAL, AND HE IS LEGION, AND ONLY THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS CAN STAVE THE GRAVE ITCHING HE HAS IN HIS PANTS FOR HUMANITY'S ULTIMATE DEMISE!
http://presidentevilonline.com/clone03.html
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:13 PM
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26. My advice right now, forget about the subscription. Go here:
www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com

dig.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:10 PM
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24. Over the years there were lots of warnings about planes being
used or planning to be used. It made it up the chain of command but didn't hit the WH except for the memo "bin Laden plans to attack inside America".

Bush WH was wrong in that they ignored the warnings passed on to them by Sandy Burger et all because they were too busy drinking the Kool-Aid.

Clinton too was in power at a time when the rare information on terrorists planning to use planes or re-attack the WTC came forward.

Again - it was public knowledge that the Islamists wanted the WTC attacked, because some of them had already tried.

It was public knowledge that terrorists hijacked planes and one attempt to hijack a plane and fly it into the Eiffel Tower had been thwarted. It was public knowledge.

Many businesses moved away from the WTC after the bomb in the garage.

Again, there were bits and pieces of public and private knowledge that something like this could happen (again) to the WTC and that Federal buildings like the Pentagon were often mentioned.

Bush & his group just didn't prioritize properly. The FBI & the CIA were not coordinated.

There are many open and public as well as intelligence clues. Hindsight is always 20/20. Remember they actually arrested one of the hijackers before the attack. They just didn't prioritize getting into his computer.

People were not on their toes. They never had it in mind that anyone would hijack a plane and kill everyone on board. Again, there was some discussion a few years before 9/11 about the Egyptians pilot who crashed his plane into the Atlantic. People wondered if that was a suicide bomber because of the pilots last words to Allah. But it turned out the pilot was under investigation for harassment and that was what likely pushed him over the edge.

This was public knowledge.

There was in fact enough public knowledge out there that one could say all of America was in on the conspiracy. Because we saw these events happen over the 1990s and we were not expecting suicide bombers to use planes as bombs inside the USA. The intelligence departments, with a few exceptions of people who were actually sitting on top of a terrorist, or a pattern of Arab visa holders going to pilot school..who tried to ring the bell.

For sure it was a big mistake for the Bush WH to focus immediately on covetous oil & Iraq things. And to put the crisis of bin Landen which the Clinton WH handed them on the back burner. Clinton even handed them a battle plan after they had proof about the Cole bombing being bin Laden.

Everyone made mistakes on that day.

Why would you in the USA assume that foreign terrorist bombings would never happen in the USA when 300 people in Canada had already been killed by terrorists with foreign beefs (Air India) in 1980s, and all of Europe had been dealing with multiple bombings for 20 years.

Why would the population of America think that it would never happen to them? That is illogical. But we all live in a bubble of safety when we know nothing but security.


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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:27 PM
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29. I don't agree
> Hindsight is always 20/20.

The OP describes foresight, not hindsight, no? :shrug:

> The FBI & the CIA were not coordinated.

This is wrong.
The French intelligence warned, people at ground level in the FBI responded, but was slammed. Go read cooperativeresearch.org
Among others - there are a lot of info about this floating around.

> Why would the population of America think that it would never happen to them? That is illogical. But we all live in a bubble of safety when we know nothing but security.

Again, you're wrong.
The intelligence community are very connected, and previous attacks did - as you also state in your post - raise the level of conciousness in the prev. administration, and also among ordinary Americans. The WTC-bombing, Oklahoma and the Africa bombs all did that.

Not that they expected 911. I think none of us did. Except AJ, that's why it is so interesting that he did warn prior to 911.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:41 PM
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32. Mog, you're right. It was foresight! He told everyone to call their
senators and reps. and tell them not to go ahead with the planned terror attack using CIA operative OBL.

Wonder why he's not been captured or killed yet?

Because they need him.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 04:36 PM
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38. My point is that the public had a few pieces of information in regards
Edited on Sat May-21-05 04:37 PM by applegrove
to planes, al-qaeda, Western monument targets, Allah & suicide of a pilot, terrorism, etc. And no reporter put it together either.

Foresight is not an easy thing. Especially when you are dealing with something that is a new threat. It takes time to learn the patterns and then you learn them well. Once you know the beast. Al Quaeda had tons of money, willing suiciders and was trying out new stuff all the time. Foresight gets better and better all the time.

They don't underestimate al-Qaeda and 'diabolical' suicide attacks anymore.

Yes - all powers that be didn't come together fast enough. And the Bush WH didn't prioritize bin-Laden appropriately.

Perhaps the WH has more to hide in terms of actual discussions that took place where they made the decision to not pay much heed to bin Landen. Perhaps.. we don't know.

The fact that as much came out - that shows they could have put it all together in a perfect world shows that they are being transparent to a certain extent..does it not?

In fact, in one of the memos at the time of 9/11 (before or after..I do not remember) someone didn't even know how to spell al-Qaeda! That shows you how new it was to some. (me I still cannot spell it)
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 07:51 PM
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58. Even if you give Bush every benefit of the doubt - he is a total fuck-up!
Clinton warned them that Bin Laden was a big problem and should be their priority - they ignored him. We KNOW they were planning the Iraq war soon after the inauguration.

Even if you ONLY go with facts - it doesn't look good for this admin. They lie! They have lied from the beginning. Remember the way the Clinton administration vandalized the white house and popped all the "w"s off all the keyboards. That was a lie - a lie that was very well reported when everyone thought it was true - yet almost completely dropped when we found out it was a lie. Who makes up lies like that? What purpose does that serve? These people are illogical and evil. It's impossible to know what they are capable of doing without a conscience.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:15 PM
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27. I put it in my pipe and smoked it. Nothing happened, so
the conclusion is that this shit is fake.

Redstone
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:29 PM
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30. I respect your opinion, Red. Watch this one ,and tell me what you think
http://infowars.com/alexjones.html

scroll halfway down on in the middle of the page, choose real media or Windows media

"

ALEX JONES:
Selected Works & Appearances


This 12 minute video collects clips from many of Alex's films including Martial Law 9-11: Rise of the Police State & Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove. It also features appearances Alex has made on CMT's Most Shocking, Conspiracy Zone, and Richard Linklater's Waking Life. "
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:52 PM
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35. Good montage. btw, to the poster, the clip is genuine. n/t
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:06 PM
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44. Nothing happened?
You mean, 9/11 didn't happen?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:41 PM
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33. Anybody who is paying attention to
what the neofascist conjobs have been up to since even when Clinton was in office; shouldn't have much trouble connecting the dots.

Some people are just prescient and Alex Jones seems to be one of them.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:44 PM
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34. Alex Jones....
...:rofl:

<wiping tears away>...thanks, I needed that. Feel much better now.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:22 PM
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50. I'm not sticking up for the man but, do you have any instances
where his shit was proven wrong or completely unfounded.

I haven't made up my mind about Alex other than he is very entertaining to listen to and a lot of his shows are well researched.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:26 PM
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51. he made a LOT of people chuckle till 911, the Patriot Act and PNAC
true, some still do, but many more are taking notice of him and Michael C. Ruppert fortunately.

folks who continue to think that what both of them talk about is still funny remind me of those whistling past the grave yard.

peace
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:48 PM
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55. Let me tinker with that phrase...
How about: "whistling past Dachau."
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Project_Willow Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 10:25 PM
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61. "whistling past Dachau."
Awesome!

May I borrow that?
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #51
56. I'll admit...
that post was rude. I didn't mean to piss in anyone's Corn Flakes in an area that you guys, right or wrong, have researched more than I have....So, I apologize.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 05:22 PM
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49. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. n/t
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:25 PM
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59. Wow.
Alex really beat 'em to the punch. Lot's of rich and powerful people knew it was coming and just quietly arranged to profit from the event. Alex went right out to warn his fellow citizens!
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:52 PM
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60. Others beside intelligence agencies knew and warned about 9/11
Edited on Sat May-21-05 10:01 PM by philb
Two who did were Dr. Garth Nicholson(Md), Who treats Gulf War Illness(due to bioterrorism) and another bioterrorism researcher,

Sept, 2001 Gulf War Syndrome and Bioterrorism researchers Dr. Garth Nicholson and his wife, among the most distinguished researchers in their field, warned Pentagon officials of a planned attack on the Pentagon on Sept 11. They indicated that the information came from intelligence agency staff and some high level foreign officials.
Another well known bioterrorism researcher, Dr. Leonard Horowitz, author of
“Death in the Air: Globalism, Terrorism, and Toxic Warfare” likewise warned the Government of the imminent attack.
They were hundreds of other such warnings. www.propagandamatrix.net/archiveprior_knowledge.html

You may remember that during the year of Anthrax attack and 9/11, over 10 top Bioterrorism Researchers were murdered- many in U.S. Some suggested these operations were connected.

Lots of Dead Bioterrorism Researchers: The Wiley/Saitoh/Trias/Schwartz Connection to HHMI(Howard Hughes Medical Institute), CIA, & Bioterrorism Research
Patricia Doyle, PhD www.stormtronic.co.uk/9 11/schwartz hhmi.htm
www.crystal.harvard.edu/wiley/ & www.hhmi.org/research/investigators/wiley.html
HISTORY OF HHMI www.qrc.com/hhmi/mission/history/mileston.htm

What happened to David Kelly? Jim Rarey jimrarey@comcast.net
Evidence that David Kelly, British biological warfare expert, was murdered
www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/101403_kelly_1.html
Why David Kelly was murdered
www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/111203_kelly_2.html
*************************************************************
14 top microbiologist bioterrorism researchers murdered in recent times, 5 in one month after 9-11 Events.
A Career In Microbiology Can Be Harmful To Your Health (Revised - updated)DEATH TOLL MOUNTING AS CONNECTIONS TO DYNCORP, HADRON, PROMIS SOFTWARE AND DISEASE RESEARCH EMERGEby Michael Davidson, FTW staff writer and Michael C. Ruppert

www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_14_02_microbio.html

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 10:54 PM
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62. all the info you could ever ask for in one place HERE>>>
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 02:37 AM
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64. Has DU's 9/11 policy changed?
:shrug:
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 11:28 AM
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66. I don't know, but I'm not happy about the mods moving my post.
this topic got over a dozen recommendations for the Greatest page in GD, and that's where it should've remained.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 07:20 PM
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68. MODS! Please move this back to GD where it started! (nt)
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 09:38 PM
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69. Just an FYI
There is no 9-11 discussion anywhere on this site anymore. All 9-11 posts get moved here. ALL. 9-11 posts will never make it to the greatest page and are erased from the main page as well.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 06:23 PM
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70. really?
I listed again? pretty vague. No hi-jacked airliners, no Pentagon, just "blowing things up" and he said "they'd" attack the WTC again, not hard to predict after 1993.


BTW, he seems to imply that President Clinton was in on this, with the 1993 attacks, and Oklahoma City, etc. Do YOU believe Clinton is in on it/? if so, why are you on a site for liberal DEMOCRATS? If not, why are you cherry picking Jones' rants.

on second thought, never mind.

bye
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