Kay Griggs on Military Black Ops, drug running, & misc perverts

[more_pain_please]

If you want a fresh perspective on why things are so bad right now, and maybe some more dots connecting, read this womans story.

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Kay Griggs, Former Marine Colonel's Wife, Talks Again About Military Assassin Squads, Drug Running, Illegal Weapon Deals And Sexual Perversion Deep Within The Highest Levels Of U.S. Military And Government

July 25, 2005

By Greg Szymanski

Katharine ‘Kay’ Griggs knows what it’s like to have a gun pointed in her face. She knows what it’s like to have her face slapped, her bones broken and her nose bloodied by her former bully of a husband, an active Marine Colonel and a man who she claims is “above the law and literally gets away with murder.”

Virginia court documents and photos of her battered arms and legs tell the sad and brutal physical story of her failed marriage, a tumultuous 11 year roller coaster ride ending in 1999.

But the real story for public consumption isn’t the private divorce court details. It is the secret military information about drug running, weapon sales, sexual perversion and assassination squads she learned firsthand from her husband, U.S. Marine Corps Col. George Raymond Griggs, now remarried and living in Mirror Lake, NH.

This isn’t the first time Griggs is going public with her story about government mob-like hit squads and the sexually perverted secret “cap and gown and skull and bone society” her husband belonged to along with other high-ranking Marine officers and pubic officials....

much more here

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/29982.htm

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Also video interviews are available (not to be missed)

How long are the interviews?
7.3 hours.

The interviews were held over the course of a weekend in 1998.

(download them here 1.3 gbytes in total)

Hour 1

Hour 2

Hour 3

Hour 4

Hour 5

Hour 6

Hour 7

Hour 8

[Why Syzygy]

1. So this is

... conspiracy trash novel?

Sheep!

Please seek better reading material.

[more_pain_please]

2. Do you like the shallow end of the pool? n/t

[mirandapriestly]

3. I saw that some time ago

I found her to be quite believable and I don't think anybody contradicted her. I've seen the rape pictures from Iraq and I've read what they are doing inside Abu Ghraib (much worse than the commonly distributed pictures). So I have no problem believing her.

[StrafingMoose]

4. Usually...

When you're acusing the govt of running mob like squads and drug trading, you most likely get sued for libel. UNLESS, they know you have something about it, they remain silent.

[dbeach]

5. heroines and heroes

are hard to find..believe her..disbelieve her at your own risk..

[mandog]

6. Just like Juanita Broderick and Paula Jones?

The right made themselves look stupid over these two - lets not make the same mistake. I would feel much more comfortable with some collaborating evidence.

[rman]

7. no, not just like them. n/t

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[rman]

8. the short version

Desperate wives, part 1
http://www.erichufschmid.net.nyud.net:8090/Griggs_part_1.wmv (wmv)
Desperate wives, conclusion
http://www.erichufschmid.net.nyud.net:8090/Griggs_part_2.wmv (wmv)

The Kay Griggs interviews website
http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/

[mandog]

9. The Reverend Rick Strawcutter

A class act:

Several national watchdog organizations claim he has links to some of the most virulent hate groups in America - some considered so dangerous they're watched by the FBI.

While he oversees his congregation of 250 members, he has been quietly running a distribution center from a back room in his church that offers videos ranging from militia and anti-government rhetoric to Jewish conspiracy beliefs.

Pastor Strawcutter is also the producer of one of the most widely circulated militia videos ever made - America In Peril - which was taped inside the pastor's church in 1993.

His video ministry has been placed on the lists of two national watchdog organizations - including the Southern Poverty Law Center - that track extremist groups.

The pastor wrote a letter to the editor of the local newspaper, calling for the execution of all homosexuals and murderers in prisons to decrease the inmate populations.

His other request: Christianity be made the official religion of the United States.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/supremacists/supremacists6.html

Is this the kind of crap you want the far right to hang around our necks?

[rman]

12. Doesn't change anything about what Griggs has to say.

[mandog]

15. This was a right wing attack on the Clinton presidency..

look at the dates (1998) that Strawcutter interviews her. Do you trust his agenda? All I would like to see is some collaborating evidence - surely this is not the only source you have is it?

[more_pain_please]

18. I'm looking at what Griggs said

She says allot of odd things that don't require Strawcutter to poison the well. The fact that she was saying some many things which have later shown to be true are points for her.

Her statements seem to draw attention to where the media never looks.

If these interviews are conducted by neo nazi's they seem to be doing a poor job of guarding the base. Real nazi's should be pleased with the way things are politically at this moment

here's a clip of the article (no clinton anywhere)

"...Griggs said other recognizable names and major players she learned from her husband’s arrogant ramblings besides Wolfowitz and other nondescript military and civilian names, involved in what she called a Zionist global takeover, included Donald Rumsfeld, George H. Bush, Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger and Andy Fine, to name a few."

"...“I later found out I was flagged by Marine General Al Gray, my husband’s boss who put the wheels in motion on much of the criminal activity. He flagged me as a trouble maker

knowing I was a free thinker who was not about to keep quiet like all the other military wives who knew too much. Finally, I sought help from Sarah McClendon, who basically saved my life.”

After weathering the storm of harassment in Washington D.C., she was encouraged by friends to publicize her story nationally through the alternative media since major publications wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. In 1998, she then met Pastor Strawcutter who believed in her and who basically told the same story Griggs is telling today but in much more detail.


(arctic beacon is not AFP)
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/29982.htm

[Frederik]

19. Neo-Nazis etc.

Are you telling me Neo-Nazis don't generally like to talk about the "Zionist global takeover"? I'd say they are doing a good job of guarding the base. So is the "Zionist global takeover" one of the things she said which, in your opinion, has "later shown to be true"?

[rman]

21. Zionist global takeover is hardly the essence of Griggs story

According to her statements the global takeover is much broader then contemporary zionism (zionism was much more diverse not very long ago, one branch of it would today be called anti-zionist - see Noam Chomsky).

The so called neo-nazis are boy scouts compared to the people in the WH and other centers of power. For one, it is documented fact that the PNAC-ers/neocons have written the foreign policy for both the US and Israel. "Zionists" do play an important role, but they are merely one aspect of it.

[more_pain_please]

23. exactly n/t

[more_pain_please]

24. Thanks for the hate bait

I was referring to the Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, rampant pedophillia, Drug Smuggling, wet ops... etc. Which have proven to have basis on fact. How far you take those facts is where we are stuck now.

[mandog]

10. More trash from the America Free Press

Greg Szymanski's employer. AFP, btw, is a banned site on DU as they are associated with neo-Nazi views. In his article he points out the pivotal role of Reverend Rick Strawcutter in the Kay Griggs affair - neo-Nazi's have to stick together I guess.

http://www.rickross.com/reference/supremacists/supremacists6.html

[more_pain_please]

11. Is that just conjecture or do you have something called evidence? n/t

[mandog]

14. Just look at the time and actors...

A man(Strawcutter) involved in right wing militia activities during the Clinton era (1998/9) finds this woman with this incredible story about how evil the government is. Remember she is talking about Clinton not Bush!

Greg Szymanski often writes for the American Free Press, which is neo-Nazi site.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Free_Press

My only point wouldn't you want some collaborating evidence from some reputable source.

[rman]

22. Griggs is talking about government(s) in general,

and not so much about government per se, but about how it has been taken over by a "global mafia", for lack of a better term.

Merely the fact that Griggs talked about this during the Clinton era does not make her a Clinton basher in my mind. Afaik Griggs does not specifically point to Clinton as the source of all this evil.

Besides, it is certainly not news to me that the government did many bad things while Clinton was president, arguably much of it with his consent, or at least with his knowledge.

If your only point is that you want to see some corroborating evidence, then why do you keep harping about the messenger?

[rman]

13. Even Chomsky and Finkelstein are called anti-semitic around these parts,

on occasions. There's this thing called "spin", you know.

[petgoat]

16. American Free Press

We should come to some conclusions about this outfit. Szymanski's stuff
is pretty intriguing and it would be nice to know if it's disinfo.

I accepted pretty uncritically the assertion that AFP is a nazi outfit,
but later learned that they were early 9/11 skeptics and thus were maybe
tagged unfairly.

Sigh... so much to investigate and so little time!

[Name removed]

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[Lithos]

20. AFP is indeed considered a hate site

It was founded by Willis Carto, a noted holocaust revisionist and one of America's leading anti-semites.

An article which states things rather clearly about the man and his work:

Carto was a for a brief period a member of the far right John Birch Society, until he allegedly fell out with the group's founder, Robert Welch, because Carto's antisemitic views were too extreme for even the John Birch Society. In 1958 Carto created a "pressure group for patriotism", which then formed the basis for the Liberty Lobby.

According to the American academic Deborah Lipstadt, "Willis Carto's political vision is encapsulated by three things: contempt and revulsion for Jews, a belief in the need for an absolutist government that would protect the 'racial heritage' of the United States, and a conviction that there exists a conspiracy designed to bring dire harm to the Western World" (Lipstadt, Denying the Holocaust (London: Penguin, 1993), 145). With these tenets as a basis, over the decades Carto has created many groups that sought to address what he saw as the problems that the United States faced. One of these, the "Joint Council for Repatriation", sought to return all African Americans back to Africa. Another, the "United Republicans for America", aimed to control the American Republican Party. However, the Liberty Lobby remained as the central structure of the Carto organisation.

Arguably the most important of all Carto groups was the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), which was created in 1978. Primary goal of the IHR was to move denial of the Holocaust from the realm of the extreme fringe of antisemitism into mainstream academia. Hiding behind a facade of academic respectability, the IHR proclaimed to be "bringing history into accord with the facts". Its academic facade was boostered by the creation of a publication, the Journal of Historical Review, which boasted, and indeed, still does, a long list of academic qualifications among its extensive "editorial advisory committee". However, few members of the committee possessed qualifications in history.

http://www.williscarto.com/carto.html

Essentially anything AFP and sister organizations do is intended as a vehicle to spread the ideology of Mr. Carto. They have a long and well documented history of distorting facts and evidence to do this.

DU's mission is to promote progressive ideals which stand in almost polar opposition to Mr. Carto's vision. As a result, posts linking to AFP will be removed.