911Truth.org under attack and threat of violence from thugs

[JackRiddler]

Guess what, I'm among the war criminals now.

When you read the term mafia in the first sentence of the following slander, consider this:

Who is using the mafia tactics of intimidation, innuendo, threat?

For my part I've never bothered with "Wing TV." I just avoid it.

But who is that knocking at my door, demanding a collection?

These people are trying to whip up an atmosphere of violence against the 9/11 truth movement, aimed at anyone and everyone who is successfully drawing a public to pay attention to the issue, from Alex Jones to Kyle Hence.

Nothing these people say has any truth or logic to it.

911Truth.org is fucking broke! We never got any money whatsoever from Soros or any of the other fictional sponsors these bastards are claiming (with zero evidence).

Of course they know that we have no rich sponsors, or they would withhold on the slander for fear of a lawsuit.

Our site has many links to serious sites that present demolitions evidence (witness wtc7.net, Morgan Reynolds, Kevin Ryan)... just not to the screamers and haters at Wing-TV (who have attacked EVERYONE in the movement).

In fact, 911Truth.org members organizing the DC Emergency Truth Convergence invited Morgan Reynolds to speak there!!!

On the surface, the basic beef seems to be that WING-TV's intimidation and slander has so far failed to compel 911Truth.org to become automatic re-publishers of their work. (Like what, they can't just attract their own hits?)

However, their behavior is also exactly what one would expect of a COINTELPRO operation designed to poison the 9/11 truth movement.

That thought would, for them, be enough to just say they're government agents and demand their incarceration, or worse. But I have no way of knowing.

As a bitter comedy on the side, on goes the fraudulent "career" of Nico Haupt. In real life, in New York, he has had himself run out of every group he ever attempted to splinter and poison, being an enormously disruptive and just plain ill-mannered force. But on the Web, of course he is invulnerable.

See the Human Google produce his findings! See him rant until there's no one left who isn't part of the conspiracy to refuse the signs of his genius!

And now...

Take it away, Julius Streicher!!!

http://www.wingtv.net/thornarticles/911warcriminals.html

9-11 Mafia =
War Criminals
by Victor Thorn

Activist/researcher Nico Haupt is 100% correct – 911Truth.org and other similar Mafia gatekeeper organizations should now be viewed as War Criminals. In other words, individuals such as David Kubiak, Jan Hoyer, Kyle Hence, Nicholas Levis, John Judge, and Janice Matthews should be placed on trial and convicted of war crimes against the
American people for their overt, deliberate role in suppressing crucial information about 9-11 (see Nico Haupt's article,
Boycott 911Truth.org’s Bogus March on 9/11) .

It has now been proven that these groups and individuals are deliberately being funded by New World Order globalists
(see Lisa Guliani's article, The Kyle Hence-George Soros Connection) . Do you get it? They’re false-front plants that work directly for the enemy! In fact, that’s why they were established in the first place – to prevent the truth from coming out about 9-11 being a government inside job Controlled Demolition.

Think about it: a member of George Bush’s first term cabinet – Morgan Reynolds – has become very vocal about the World Trade Center controlled demolition, yet the 9-11 Mafia War Criminals do everything humanly possible to steer people away from this subject. Why? Their avoidance of this issue is so extreme that they’re even worse than the
globalist-controlled mainstream media.

If you don’t believe me, take a look at the July 23, 2005 DC Truth Convergence as an example. Lisa Guliani, Michael Langston, and I held a huge 14-foot banner at this rally that proclaimed:

9-11 WORLD TRADE CENTER CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

etc. etc.

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Without 911Truth.org and the pennies put up by its own staff of volunteer staff there wouldn't have BEEN a rally for these guys to play the hero at... Nor were they bothered in the least about their banner.

"Anything you say can and will be used as evidence against you."

[Rich Hunt]

1. sounds familiar

They did this stuff in the sixties, you know...

[petgoat]

2. "They" did this stuff in the sixties

There are a lot of ways of making people crazy and paranoid--just thank
your lucky stars it's them and not you.

[spooked911]

3. The WingTV guys are friggin nuts. I also ignore them. They are way too

angry at everyone else in the movement.

People really need to chill out about other people's motives and be happy for people that simply quesiton the 9/11 story. Jesus-- these people really need some valium.

[StrafingMoose]

4. his point about Morgan Reynolds is nul...

The only appeal the Morgan Reynolds story has is that a courageous guy that probably enjoys a great career as what he was doing or maybe still doing, is ready to risk and trash it so he can express his doubt about what "looked like" a control demolition and express doubts about other aspects of the OCT.

That's an excellent way to push other angry FBI agents to come out publicly -- what we really need. If enough of them come out, their substance will eventuall be backed by documents.

[spooked911]

5. It is even more ridiculous than I thought-- they are all in a huff because

Jan Hoyer at 911truth.org didn't post any pictures of their banner talking about WTC demolition from the truth emergency meeting in DC in July. Somehow, this was keeping people from knowing about the banner, or about controlled demolition of the WTC.

Right. :eyes:

[JackRiddler]

6. I hope this post was clear enough

I was very worked up about these slanders and especially the rhetoric of "war criminals" when I wrote this, and I don't mind saying so.

Who wouldn't be shocked by such black propaganda against dozens of specific people in the 9/11 truth movement, coming not from the Rush Limbaugh side, but from others who claim they're fighting for truth?

This week Wing-TV have moved back to attacking Alex Jones for being commercial and the like, which is hilarious if you look at their site. It is entirely about self-promotion, their heroism, etc.

This is not about the relative merits of their book and video on the tower collapses - the credibility of which can only be damaged by their other actions in the eyes of third parties. You'd think they'd want to exclusively promote the book, if it were so important, and leave these irrelevant side-conflicts aside.

For whatever it's worth, there is an alternative hypothesis to the idea that these people are nuts. Their actions have a deliberate and targeted feel, and are generated out of the classic models of personal-smear propaganda: make up so much shit and such dire shit that the target has no chance of responding. (That they here or there hit a correct statement is irrelevant to the general practice.)

This is how a Cointelpro-style operation to poison the atmosphere, unleash chaos and generate paranoia about 9/11 truth and skepticism would look. Who are these guys?

[pauldp]

7. Wing TV is Pure Poison - their criticism of Hence is ridiculous

On the Wing TV site Lisa Guliani criticizes Kyle Hence for the question he asked at the public forum on terrorism in central Asia led by Hamilton of the 911 commission which included many members of the main stream press. Here's how Guliani characterized Hence's question.

<snip
"Instead of asking any of the critical questions he could have asked, Gatekeeper Hence chose instead to ask a moronic question about wire transfers to alleged hijacker Mohamed Atta. Now you tell me, is this the most burning or immediate question that needs to be answered regarding 9-11? Yet for some unfathomable reason, 911Truth.org inexplicably calls Hence a hero"
<snip>

Now I saw this video of Hence's question to Hamilton and the State department panel that day and to characterize Hence's question as "moronic" is not only untrue, it is dangerous. Kyle Hence had the opportunity to ask 1 question at the end of the meeting. He chose to ask about the wire transfer of $100,000 to Atta approved by General Ahmad from the Pakistani ISI. This was an excellent question to ask of these people as it gets to the heart of who funded 911 - an issue the Commission COMPLETELY IGNORED. Not only that but it is a piece of information that was confirmed by ABC news, the FBI and the Wall Street Journal! If you are going to take the 911 commission and the MSM to task with one question in a public forum this would be the question to do it with. Bringing up controlled demo at that point at a forum such as that one would have made Hence look like a crazy CTer. Hence did seem nervous and it took a while for him to get his question out but he did get it out, and he enlightened at least some people (myself included) to this very important issue.

Either the people at Wing TV have some serious ego issues and are ignorant of the wide range of significant facts surrounding the 911 cover up or they are intentionally trying to divide the 911 truth movement. Either way they are poisoning the well.

[graphixtech]

8. Photo Gallery Links (and online videos)

Links to the specific photo galleries referred to:

Emergency Truth Convergence Photo Album #1:
http://truthemergency.us/PhotoAlbum/EmergencyTruthConvergence%20version%201/index.html

(from left: Peter Phillips, Ray McGovern, Sunny Miller, Nafeez Ahmed)


(Theologian David Ray Griffin Speaks at the National Press Club)


Emergency Truth Convergence Photo Album #2:
http://truthemergency.us/PhotoAlbum2/EmergencyTruth/index.html

(Ray McGovern Speaks at Lafayette Park)

Video clips of DC ETC speakers, including Dr. David Ray Griffin, Jenna Orkin,
Dr. Robert Bowman, Peter Dale Scott, Ray McGovern:
http://truthemergency.us/pages/VideoAudio.html


(This powerful ETC video of Retired AF Col. Robert Bowman raises blood pressure. Few minutes to load)
http://truthemergency.us/movies/BobBowman2.mov


Oklahoma City Ten Years Later Speakers Forum:
http://okc.digitalstyledesigns.com/SpeakersForum/index.html



Home page to media and upcoming Convergence events:

http://www.truthemergency.us/index.html


911Truth.org will be sending out an email of exciting
announcements and news updates within the next few days.
Please register at 911Truth.org.


http://911truth.org/


:patriot:

[philb]

9. Release of NY Firemen and Police WTC statements with lots of explosion

reports should give both marches a pickup.
And should bring about major call by New Yorkers for a New York investigation. Which should be the focus of the Ground Zero march imo.
http://www.flcv.com/firemen.html
http://www.flcv.com/nypolice.html


I haven't time to worry about who are gatekeepers or etc.
Someone else can deal with that.