At what point was it announced that Flight 93 was heading for the Capitol?

[XemaSab]

I thought in the days, weeks, months, and years after September 11th the conventional wisdom was that the plane was heading for the White House?

I personally suspected that it was a weak excuse for Bush's cowardace on September 11th, but it seemed to be the official story.

When did this change?

And why do I feel like the only person who has noticed? :shrug:

[electron_blue]

1. sorry to burst your bubble

but I remember Flight 93 was said to be heading for the white house immediately (well, Sep 12). Since you say you only recently heard this as being announced, where do you think it was headed?

[XemaSab]

3. Here's one link:

http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=EDFLIGHT93-04-17-06

[electron_blue]

5. I see a link that says they were headed for Washington

Did I miss something? Did the article say this was the first time it was admitted? I do remember hearing about the w.h. being the likely target for 93 from the very beginning. Not sure if it was just speculation, or "fact", but it seemed like an obvious target and so not surprising many different sources would say the w.h. (or capitol) was the target.

[XemaSab]

8. From the article:

"The hijackers were turning the plane toward Washington, apparently to hit the Capitol, much as their fellow suicide killers had damaged the Pentagon and brought down the World Trade Center."

[radwriter0555]

10. At 6:30 am West coast time, my friend Jackie and I both said, "I won't be

surprised if there is another plane headed for the white house..." And within 1/2 hour we heard about the pentagon plane.

Yikes.

[LSK]

2. i cant recall whether is was the White House or the Capital

Just that it was headed somewhere vital in our Capital. Wouldnt be too hard to believe there were different destinations.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

4. Here's a bit of reality for you:

No one knows where it was headed. This myth about White House and/or Capitol is just that. No one knows anything, because they're all gone.

Probably just more bullshit coming out of the White House to make Fuckface look like some kind of target, when he's the least important part of this whole machine - and Cheney was running the whole operation from his bunker that day, don't forget.

This "Flight 93" movie coming out just sickens me.

[gatorboy]

6. I do remember them mentioning this on 9/11,

There were several reporters on the ground and when they asked about the commotion, they were told a plane was headed toward the Capitol. You could see larges groups of people getting the hell out of Dodge.

Which is probably why it was shot down...

[XemaSab]

7. That was my response when they kept INSISTING it was heading for the WH

"YEAH, BS!!!!"

But the other day when I read about the tapes being played at the Moussaoui (sp) trial, I had a moment of cognative dissonance. "Wait...that's a different story...." And all the press about the film "Flight 93" seems to be saying the same thing: the plane was heading for the capitol.

I still don't think they had any clue where it was headed.... why not another hit on the pentagon, for example, but why change the lie now???

[Saphire]

9. I thought Moussaoui was going to fly HIS plane into the WH. At least

that's what he said.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

13. He is SO nuts,

you truly cannot believe a word he says.

That mentally ill guy - he's whacked beyond belief - is nothing but the 9/11 scapegoat for America. My colleagues of old are representing him - not an easy job, by the way. It's a railroad, and, if he's executed, it will mean nothing to the Al Qaeda, he won't be any kind of martyr, it'll just be another reason for Muslims everywhere to hate America.

This prosecution has been a hideous joke, from a legal standpoint. Just awful.

So, don't put any worth in anything this paranoid schizophrenic says. Please.

[seatnineb]

20. If it was not for the Moussoui case....we would see the Pentagon footage!

And that is THE main reason why we have the Moussoui case and it is also the reason why this case will drag on and on.

The Pentagon footage from the gas station and the highway is THE achilles heel of the 9/11 official story.

[peacetalksforall]

11. I think they said Washington on 9-11. The bigger question is why

were they flying all over the midwest.

[gatorboy]

12. If you mean why there were no planes coming from the east.

I assumed they were hoping to keep as much fuel as possible in their tanks for a more destructive impact.

[petgoat]

14. The White House was an unlikely target IMHO because it

was well known to be defended by SAM missiles.

W had SAM missiles at his Florida hotel the night of 9/10/01.

So why the Pentagon didn't have any is kind of a question. Some suggest that
the control systems were deactivated because of the six simultaneous war games
that morning.

[XemaSab]

15. The White House is a crappy target

because there are systems in place to ensure succession even if the president is killed.

If half the senate is killed, that would be a much greater constitutional crisis.

[petgoat]

16. And better serve the interests of the PNAC cabal, especially

if... hmmm, here's something to investigate. Were key Republican legislators noticably absent
from the Capitol that morning? Not that they would have been warned, but were they attracted to
some distracting event elsewhere?

[Woody Box]

17. This was the mysterious FIFTH plane

that was reported all over the TV and radio stations for a short time in the morning of 9/11 - AFTER the Pennsylvania crash. It vanished from the news pretty quickly, but many people had noticed, as a google search for "fifth plane"+"hijacked"+"washington" reveals:

A third plane has crashed into the Pentagon, Washington, part of which has collapsed, and a fourth plane has crashed south east of Pittsburgh. A fifth plane is reported to be heading towards Washington DC, according to Sky News.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010923172009/http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21606.html

There are reports of a fourth airliner had been brought down near Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland, by U.S. military fighters. A fifth plane has crashed in Western Pennsylvania.

http://www.forbes.com/2001/09/11/0911usattack3.html

Rumors were flying about a fourth plane that crashed in pennsylvania, and a fifth plane that was still flying.

http://www.wherewereyou.org/search/index.php?start=5&searchtype=location&searchtext=maryland

there was definitely a news blackout about the fifth and plus plane(s). i was watching the news in the day, and by the evening i thought i had probably imagined the whole fifth plane thing. combined with the fact that the net seemed to be ahead of the tv, the news censorship has almost been as scary as the event itself.

http://www.barbelith.com/topic.php?id=510

Does anyone know if they found the 5th missing plane that was supposedly hijacked?

2 into WTC
1 into Pentagon
1 into Pittsburgh

1 missing...

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:KALRBxB3NgwJ:www.f150online.com/forums/archive/topic/50622-1.html+%22fifth+plane%22%2B%22hijacked%22%2B%22washington%22-%22moussaoui%22&hl=de&gl=de&ct=clnk&cd=25

When I first heard about the disaster and tuned in, the first three planes had already crashed and reporters were saying that there were "others" that wre unable to be located. Arter the crash of the fourth plane, it was reported that there was still one more plane unaccounted for. As soon as there was footage of the jet wreck in Pennsylvania, there was never anymore mention of this fifth plane

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:qxdMdJmNMeMJ:www.phillyimc.org/article.pl%3Fsid%3D01/09/13/215250+%22fifth+plane%22%2B%22hijacked%22%2B%22washington%22-%22moussaoui%22&hl=de&gl=de&ct=clnk&cd=33

While the fourth plane crashed near Pittsburgh, it was reported that the fifth plane was heading towards the capital - but later its whereabouts could not be confirmed.

http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:ZlWAk7So9hEJ:www.watchmarketreview.com/archive/2001_sep-oct/editorial.htm+%22fifth+plane%22%2B%22hijacked%22%2B%22washington%22-%22moussaoui%22&hl=de&gl=de&ct=clnk&cd=34

More messages and how the "fifth plane" fits into the plot here:

The Secret Hijacking

[Old and In the Way]

19. Could the fifth plane have been involved with tracking 93?

There's been lots of discussions about executive jets and C130's being in the PA area, could one of those planes have been mistakenly ID'd as the fifth plane? If so, their return to base around DC would not be a surprise, except that their flight path would be misinterperted as another hostile attack on Washington. That might explain the eventual blackout and why it disappeared from the official story.

[Woody Box]

21. I don't know about the C_130 and the Executive jet...

...but I know that the reports about UA 93 over Pennsylvania are contradictive themselves...

...there seem to have been two UA 93...

http://de.geocities.com/woody_box2000/pennsylvania.html

[Old and In the Way]

22. That's a really interesting link, woody b

You sure make a convincing case that there were 2 flight 93's involved. Did Wright ever see 93 South? If there were 2 airliners, what happened to the passengers assigned to flight 93? Do you assume that 93 North is 1989 that was heading for Washington that got the escort back to Cleveland? Something created that crater...and Wright must have been turning south at somepoint to approach LaTrobe...wouldn't he have been in a position to see something happening in the Shanksville area, almost directly in his line of sight?

Great detective work!

[Woody Box]

23. Very kind from you, thanks :-)

Yes, I indeed believe that the northern UA 93 headed towards Washington (the mysterious fifth plane that was reported for a very, very short time) and finally landed at Cleveland Airport.

Latrobe is about 30 miles away from Shanksville, and the sight is probably blocked by Laurel Ridge, a part of the Allegheny Mountains. So I don't think Wright witnessed the smoke at Shanksville.

I also doubt that he saw UA 93 South, but there ARE witnesses from Vanderbilt who saw a low-flying plane. The official Flight path of FLight 93 passes north of Vanderbilt:

///Georgetta Guynn and her husband, Alvin, of Vanderbilt, Fayette County, had been out with relatives when they heard about the attack on the World Trade Center.

“We came home and I went into the house to watch the television. Alvin had to go fix the fence because the cattle were starting to get out,” she said. “When I saw what was going on, I went outside to tell him and I said, ‘No planes are allowed to fly.’ And then he said, ‘Well, what’s that, then?’

“We looked up and there was this big jet going overhead and it was pretty low and we could not hear the engines. It was like they were off. ///

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_12942.html

Note that this plane was very quiet - "we could not hear the engines. It was like they were off". Did the plane try to avoid attention?


Here's a map of the area:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=vanderbilt&state=pa&zipcode=

[WoodrowFan]

18. was it CapitOL or CapitAl?

I thought originally it was capital as in Washington, D.C. not as in the capitol building. The guesses that it was the Capitol Building or the White House come from the 1993 plot which targeted those two buildings as well as the Pentagon and CIA HQs.


And yeah, it was a weak excuse for *'s wetting his pants with fear performance.