Redstone
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Tue May-16-06 08:34 PM
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Pentagon video: Why has NOBODY at DU figured out why it was |
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released now?
It's simple. Two words: poll numbers.
It's an obvious, blatant, desperate Rovian ploy to get at least a few Americans to remember their rage on that day, and their subsequent blind support for bushyboy.
Just a few Americans. Just enough to show a slight, even in inconsequential uptick in "approval ratings." Just for a few days. Just to cover another distraction like this one.
Isn't it obvious to you now?
(Of course, my apologies in advance to any other DUer who pointed this out before I did. I haven't read ALL the posts.)
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Tue May-16-06 08:36 PM
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1. You are right....but once again they fucked up.... |
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the video just creates more questions in the minds of more and more skeptical Americans...just another bad plan gone to shit...
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Tue May-16-06 08:42 PM
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12. Yep, Why not release the gas or hotel video? |
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This "new" video is of the same angle that we’ve seen before.
I saw no plane hit the Pentagon in this new video.
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Tue May-16-06 08:37 PM
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2. Not sure I totally agree |
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Though I do to some extent - I would not put it past the asshole-in-chief to try and flame the passions of the masses.
On the other hand, they could have released a lot more info, which would have the news people lapping at the bowl of 9/11 for weeks.
IF they want to really get things cooking wait until the next anniversary of 9/11 and bring it all home - just before elections.
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Tue May-16-06 08:37 PM
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3. They were obligated to release at least one video after the trial |
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Since, they had been putting off the FOIA request for years, with the excuse that they needed the "evidence" (hah) for that trial, and didn't want it "tainted" by having been in the public domain (which is already had been).
They had promised to release a video of a plane hitting the Pentagon after the trial was over.
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Tue May-16-06 08:39 PM
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6. Correct. Sometimes a cigar is really just |
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a phallic symbol. :evilgrin: (Not sure that really came out like I wanted it to...)
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Tue May-16-06 08:38 PM
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Tue May-16-06 08:43 PM
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13. God damn. That may be the single best political cartoon |
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I've ever seen. Bar none.
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Tue May-16-06 08:53 PM
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19. That is spot on....I have to agree it's one of the best!! |
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Tue May-16-06 09:25 PM
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Tue May-16-06 09:28 PM
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Fucking traitorous Chimp.
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Tue May-16-06 08:39 PM
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5. That was my first thought ... |
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(And I'm not even going to try to read all the posts.)
I'm coming in late on this since I've been out of the loop for a couple days. What struck me about the video is that, to my memory, it is nothing new at all. I swear I've seen this before, or at least saw a series of photos taken from it that when put together and played as a video file look exactly like this.
But, it's not been a really popular video/series of pictures among the mainstream, basically, I think, because it doesn't show much of anything except that, yes, something did in fact hit the Pentagon. (And only the most deranged theorists on this have suggested otherwise.)
So, what did we learn today? I think what we really learned, or will learn, is that no matter your political persuasion, anything about 9/11 will get you worked up so that you pretty much ignore everything that's going on *right now*. That'll help Shrub's approval, at least somewhat.
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Tue May-16-06 08:39 PM
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7. It has been mentioned today |
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But supposedly the release of these tapes were because some group of people sued to have them released. That's not saying that it doesn't seem like is could be more than a coincidence.
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Tue May-16-06 08:42 PM
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11. Everything you need to know about the FOIA on this topic: |
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Edited on Tue May-16-06 08:43 PM by dotcosm
http://www.flight77.info/edit to add this nice little note on that site: "please note that we still have a second FOIA request active for the other 84 flight 77 recordings. we WILL get those also. they should include the citgo tape and the hotel tape."
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Tue May-16-06 08:54 PM
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20. Thanks. It looks interesting |
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Tue May-16-06 08:40 PM
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8. I don't think the release of this video |
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is what BushCo wants or needs right now.
They are no longer in control of the news and the shit is hitting the fan. This is just one big chunk that's getting flung out.
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Tue May-16-06 08:41 PM
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9. There was a thread earlier today |
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that is probably buried five pages back.
Conspiracy theories are far more fascinating. It seems to take most of DU about two to three days to question why certain info is being released.
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Tue May-16-06 08:42 PM
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The official video shows nothing new, nothing slamming into the Pentagon.
It looks as if explosions were set off inside the building.
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Tue May-16-06 08:46 PM
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15. No, no, no, please, I didn't start this thread to add fuel to conspiracy |
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nuts, excuse me, theorists, we've got enough of those already. Though thank you for your contribution.
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Tue May-16-06 08:50 PM
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17. I'm not promoting any theories. |
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I'm only saying what my own eyes tell me. Nothing more.
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Tue May-16-06 08:43 PM
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14. "Remember the Maine!" |
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Edited on Tue May-16-06 08:43 PM by sfexpat2000
:)
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Tue May-16-06 08:56 PM
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23. Aha! You got it! Well-said, and succinctly, indeed. |
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Tue May-16-06 08:49 PM
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16. CNN was babbling about |
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how Shrub's speech earned high marks from people who saw the speech. It's like they're almost rooting for his approval ratings to improve.
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Tue May-16-06 08:57 PM
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24. It's amazing...even after Tony Snow came out and attacked |
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the media...even with the news the * cabal is spying on reporters...the media whores just keep going back for the koolaid....
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Tue May-16-06 08:52 PM
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18. It has more to do with separating 9-11 from the NSA story than anything |
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else.... And if you think you know 9-11 you should watch this PNAC movie. Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=92For those working for the PNAC boys how does it feel to be a traitor?
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Tue May-16-06 08:55 PM
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21. The video has already been available online for a while |
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It's a political move, no doubt.
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Tue May-16-06 09:01 PM
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26. Technically, that's not true |
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They *did* release a new video today, although it was shot just feet away from the one we had already seen. See here for a direct comparison: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=87576&mesg_id=87576
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Tue May-16-06 09:17 PM
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a distraction from the NSA/spying furor, the underlying "tone" says "stay very afraid because the evildoers are still out there" and we need the Chimpster to keep us safe.
Same old shit.
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Tue May-16-06 09:21 PM
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Tue May-16-06 08:55 PM
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22. Nah. This raises too many questions left buried almost 5 years ago. |
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Last thing the administration wants is people asking more questions. Especially since they've spent the last five years shooting their credibility to shit.
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Tue May-16-06 09:00 PM
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25. But Rove and them are not appealing to people who THINK. |
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They're appealing (or so they think) to people who REACT.
Like the clowns at the bar where I eat lunch, who dutifully parrot each morning's Rush Limpball's "talking points" at noon among themselves (when they don't think I can hear them, because they've learned not to let me hear them).
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Tue May-16-06 09:29 PM
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31. I think a lot of us figured it out. |
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Everyone's hip to this administration's moves.
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Tue May-16-06 09:33 PM
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32. Yes, they don't understand a basic rule: |
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Never fuck with people who are smarter than you are.
And it will get them in the end, won't it?
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Tue May-16-06 09:44 PM
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Who is the real evildoer in the world.
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