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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:18 AM
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Depleted Uranium, Diabetes and Cover-Ups
Diabetes and Depleted Uranium
Submitted by davidswanson on Tue, 2006-07-11 04:00. Media
Italian Embassy Cover up Continues
By Bob Nichols

(San Francisco Bay View) Dr Mishra described June 29th to June 6 as "A week from Hell." International radiation expert Leuren Moret talked to Dr Mishra, a famous surgeon from India, the afternoon of July 7, 2006. Dr. Mishra's report was grim. I had tried to reach him by phone and email for a week. I was concerned about his safety. On July 10 Dr Mishra stated "I will not be cowed down."

Mishra reported "Threats at the hospital, three weird phone calls claiming 'we have you under surveillance,' one each in American, Italian and Indian accents."

Dr. Mishra said he was advised by someone in the government to "leave town for three days because of the danger." Mishra said he did and "unidentified Government agents blocked my computer, blocked my phone and email and harassed my family."

Dr. Mishra said it started on his visit to the Consul at the Italian Consulate on June 29th regarding his earlier request for an Italian Visa. A Visa is an entry and travel permit and can only be issued in Bombay by Italian Consul Baeceloni. Mishra was called back to the Embassy without an explanation.

The Consul asked Dr. Mishra 1) Who is your sponsor in Italy, 2) What is your hotel in Italy and 3) what is your interest in Leuren Moret, in diabetes and depleted uranium? Dr. Mishra had said nothing about diabetes, depleted uranium or Leuren Moret.

Depleted uranium is a genocidal radioactive metal used for bullets, bombs and missiles by the United States and Great Britain as munitions in Iraq, Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia. Millions of pounds of weaponized radioactive uranium gas and dust have been dispersed by US/UK military forces in Iraq and Central Asia.

The use of uranium weapons has caused a global diabetes epidemic since 1991, according to scientist Leuren Moret. It is enough uranium dust to cause an estimated twenty five million additional cancers in Iraq in the next decade. The US and UK military still use uranium munitions. There are only 24 million Iraqis. Many Iraqis now have multiple cancers.

The rest of the article is at: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/12913


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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:20 AM
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1. "Depleted uranium is a genocidal radioactive metal"
Use hyperbole much?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:20 AM
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2. Bush has committeed
genocide. To The Hague.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:27 AM
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3. I thought the name Leuren Moret rang a bell.
Ya. I remember her from my Bay Area days. She's a batshit crazy 9/11 conspiracy theorist. She has zero credibility on this or any other issue.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:30 AM
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7. A tad bit dismissive and condescending, aren't we?
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 08:31 AM by marmar
I'm no expert on radioactive materials, but I don't think exposing people to depleted uranium is an act of humanitarianism, whether or not calling it a genocidal weapon is hyperbole. And why label someone "batshit crazy" for questioning the official account of Sept. 11? I'd call them inquisitive.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:48 AM
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9. Well...
I'm no expert on radioactive materials, but I don't think exposing people to depleted uranium is an act of humanitarianism, whether or not calling it a genocidal weapon is hyperbole.

It certainly is not an act of humanitarianism. Nor is there any established link between it and diabetes. Nobody here is advocating its use that I am aware of.

And why label someone "batshit crazy" for questioning the official account of Sept. 11? I'd call them inquisitive.

Go read her magazine and then tell me what you think. It's like a tour of the worst, most racist, most vitriolic crap in the 9/11 dungeon.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:38 AM
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4. The World Health Organization doesn't seem to agree:
Under their list of potential health threats due to depleted uranium, diabetes does not appear.

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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:22 AM
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5. So this woman says DU is dangerous and that makes her
batshit crazy? I invite the rest of you to do a search on her & see what you think! :nuke: I think she has very valid concerns, I don't care what WHO says on their website. All you have to do is remember the Gulf war vets and their mysterious illnesses to know that there is much we are not being told about DU.

Please, "batshit crazy" over 911? Now there's another area we need far more anwers to. I think "batshit crazy" describes the people who don't think there's anything to be concerned about. Yeah....walk away...nothing to see here folks....:crazy:
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Juffo Wup Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:29 AM
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6. Depleted uranium is dangerous
No one is really disputing that, just the claim that it's causing millions of cases of diabetes worldwide. There is absolutely no proven link between diabetes and any kind of radiation, let alone that from depleted uranium.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:42 AM
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8. I disagree.
Edited on Tue Jul-11-06 08:56 AM by yibbehobba
All you have to do is remember the Gulf war vets and their mysterious illnesses to know that there is much we are not being told about DU.

No, see. That's not how medicine works. That's not how science works. Using your logic, I can come back and say that the lack of a similar pattern of problems following the Balkans war proves that DU does not cause gulf war syndrome.

Nobody yet knows whether either of those statements are true. They may both be true, but even so they're both gross oversimplifications of a complex problem involving many possible contributing factors.

Anyway, this thread is about diabetes and not gulf war syndrome, There is simply no evidence whatsoever linking diabetes to heavy metals and radiation generally, and depleted uranium in particular.

Just for fun, I will also point out that there does not, at present time, appear to be a link between gulf war syndrome and diabetes.


Please, "batshit crazy" over 911?


Yes, actually. She's one of the editors of Global Outlook, which hilariously calls itself "The Magazine of the 9/11 Truth Movement" and is a compendium of idiotic consipracy theories.

I think "batshit crazy" describes the people who don't think there's anything to be concerned about. Yeah....walk away...nothing to see here folks....

Fine, you can have the definition for "batshit crazy." However, I get to have my word to describe someone who believes, based on nothing at all, that depleted uranium causes diabetes and that dick cheney and mossad blew up the world trade center. And my word is "fuckwit."

edit: removed inflammatory material
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 11:12 AM
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10. She's a geologist.
With a Master's in Near Eastern Studies. She is *not* a nuclear scientist, an epidemiologist, or a physician -- facts which she demonstrates by drawing comparisons between DU exposure and diabetes. No other scientist, especially scientists who actually work in the fields of radiation exposure, have ever hinted at a connection between DU and diabetes, mostly because that's inherently absurd.

Interesting to note that while passing herself off to the wide-eyed and gullible as a "nuclear scientist" and expert on radiation exposure she hasn't submitted even one paper to any peer-reviewed journal on the subjects. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
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