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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:34 AM
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96K Jobs Created in September; Unemployment at 5.4%
As per CNBC, under estimates.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:37 AM
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1. That's 54K below expectations IIRC
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:39 AM
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3. And even if you added the 54K...
That number would still be the shits.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:38 AM
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2. Let's remember one thing:
That 5.4% is the U3 unemployment figure. New applications for unemployment insurance. It is NOT the real unemployment figure, the U6, which is as much as 9.8%. Also the U3 uses flawed data compilation techniques, most importantly the "kitchen table" method.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:45 AM
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5. No kidding?
I was going to say that 5.4% isn't all that bad, though Clinton's 4% was better. I remember when unemployment was 8%, but if it is as you say, and unemployment really is at 9.8%, do we get this figure by the same criteria they used to determine unemployment in the late '70's and '80's?

What piss poor job gains. They probably inflated those, too.
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RoyalWickedness Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:47 AM
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6. Unemployment rate in Michigan
where I live, is 8%. And at least 150K jobs are needed per month just to keep up with population growth. So, 96K is actually a deficit.
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rjbny62 Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:49 AM
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7. real unemployment figure
Can anyone explain why the U3 figure is used at all? It doesn't reflect reality in the least.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 11:32 AM
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8. U6 went down to 9.4%
Which is the same as September 1996, so its not really a line of argument that will take you very far.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 07:42 AM
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4. That's very bad news for the economy
The economy needs to add at least 150,000 jobs per month just to keep pace with population growth.
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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-04 12:14 PM
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9. Is my understanding correct
that when some is booted off of unemployment (like when George did not extend benefits) that those too are not counted in the figure?
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