Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Check this out. EVERY poll had Bush ahead 2-7 pts election day 2000

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:34 AM
Original message
Check this out. EVERY poll had Bush ahead 2-7 pts election day 2000
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 10:34 AM by Proud2BAmurkin
http://pollingreport.com/wh2gen1.htm

Time had AWOL up 6 over Gore

You can add about 4 or 5 points for Kerry to any LIKELY VOTER survey
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:36 AM
Response to Original message
1. This Is More Instructive
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. that's a good link for final polls but,
the chart at Polling Report looks at polls in the weeks leading up to the election. The point is that Gore was usually behind in the final 2 weeks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. I am aware that gore was down...
If fact I read that 39 out of the published final national pre election polls showed Woody winning..


I think this race will be razor close... I hope and pray Kerry wins but I don't have a clue who will win...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:37 AM
Response to Original message
2. yup, I've looked at that chart several times
If DU and the blogosphere were big back then, there'd have been mass suicides by liberals in late october.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Was_Immer Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:39 AM
Response to Original message
3. someone posted an extraordanry piece this morning here
the point of which said: Incumbants that are polling 50% do not go up by election day, while their challengers go up on election day.

Point being: If you poll 50% and your the incumbant youve reached your peak, while the challenger will go up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:41 AM
Response to Original message
5. and that was gore vs an unknown bush
with an energized repub and an lethargic unsuspecting dem contingent.

now its bush with a madmans record, vs kerry, a much stronger candidate.
and a very energized, angry, anti-bush electorate.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:46 AM
Response to Original message
7. I thought Zogby had 48/48
can't find it though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:49 AM
Response to Original message
8. Why is this different?
This page shows many polls with Gore up:

http://www.pollingreport.com/2000.htm#LATEST

I think the dates of these polls are later than those on your page.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. 2 out of 15+ isn't exactly many
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 11:01 AM by pmbryant
But it is more than zero.

--Peter
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:51 AM
Response to Original message
9. happened after the really bad bad convention too
and i thought no way. and thought thru out the pools of that time no way. and now happening now, a bush daughter and rove say watch the numbers, i am in a no way

i mean how fuickin obvious do they have to get to be f*ckin obvious. wink
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:59 AM
Response to Original message
10. I've Seen Comparisons of the Last Poll Before the Election
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 11:00 AM by ribofunk
showing that Zogby had Gore winning by 2%, and Harris and Fox(!) had a dead heat.

One Edit: Doesn't take away from the basic point, though. The polls now are more favorable to Kerry than they were to Gore.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:09 AM
Response to Original message
12. WRONG -- the last Zogby poll showed Gore pulling ahead
Zogby was the only pollster to conduct a poll entirely over the weekend preceding election day. He was, therefore, the only pollster who was able to take into account the full impact of the last-minute revelation regarding Bush's DUI arrest.

All of the other polls failed to reflect a large swing in favor of Gore among late deciding voters. Voters who made up their minds during the final days of the campaign ended up voting for Gore by a margin of 2 to 1.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. Yes
I thought there were several other daily tracking polls back then, though, including Washington Post/ABC and CNN/Gallup.

--Peter
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:18 AM
Response to Original message
13. 10/18-20/00 # 40 51 1 4 4 718LV - Bush 51 Gore 40 CNN/Gallup JOKE!!
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 11:26 AM by Mr_Spock
That polling organization is a complete joke.

10/24-26/00 # 39 52 1 4 4 851LV HAHAHA!! These utter fucking morons had Bush up 52-39 over Gore in their 10/24-10/26/2000 polling!! And we are worried about an 8 point lead now from these UTTER MORONS!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - these guys are retarded - look at the 9 point variation in their polls!!! These people should be dragged out into the street and shot! What a bunch of criminals trying to tell us their crap is "scientific" - my arse!! :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:24 AM
Response to Original message
14. What was the final outcome in 2000?
I mean in terms of national (not electoral) votes... and how many "points" did Gore win by?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. 500,000 votes is a small percentage - but Gore did win
These polling fools - especially Gallup need to go to jail for this attempt at electioneering.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. 500,000 out of how many total votes in 2000?
Just curious what that % comes out to?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. 100 million. Gore won by half a percent. (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
19. Yep. Kerry is going to get 300+ electoral votes, because
Dems have been full-on pissed since Bu$h stole the 2000 election, and new Dem voters have registered in unprecedented numbers. And

WE ARE UNITED!
:bounce:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 07:58 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC