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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:20 PM
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Right Winger asks "Is Bush the Antichrist?" and gives surprising response.


http://www.covenantnews.com/baldwin020412.htm


Is Bush the Antichrist?
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By Chuck Baldwin
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The Covenant News ~ April 12, 2002
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During the eight years of Clinton's presidency, I was repeatedly asked, "Chuck, do you think Bill Clinton is the antichrist?" (Of course, I answered no.) Therefore, it is more than interesting to me that since G.W. Bush became president no one has asked if I thought he was the antichrist. Not one single person! Instead, many people attribute to Bush god-like qualities, which actually makes him a better candidate than Clinton was.

You see, one of the chief characteristics of the coming antichrist is that he appears "as an angel of light." Therefore, an obvious reprobate such as Bill Clinton is immediately disqualified. The antichrist, by very definition, is a master deceiver. He must be someone who appears as good and benevolent. The bite is in his tail not in his tongue. In reality, Bush's angelic persona makes him much more dangerous than bad boy Billy.

For example, while Clinton was in the process of appointing numerous homosexual activists to his administration, copious letters from Christian leaders such as Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, and D. James Kennedy flooded America's Christian community. Appeals for protest and resistance were heard from pulpits throughout the country. A massive media campaign began against Clinton.

Today, however, President Bush is in the process of copying Clinton's numerous appointments of open homosexuals to high positions of government, but there are no letters, no warnings from pulpits, and no media campaigns opposing it. Just the opposite. Bush is being defended, lauded, and glorified for everything he does, no matter how unconstitutional or unscriptural it might be.

When Clinton only talked of legalizing embryonic stem cell research, he was castigated and condemned. Bush actually made the procedure legal, and yet, he was praised and honored. Clinton was denigrated when he tried to convince Israel to give up land for peace. Now, Bush is in the process of actually trying to create an independent Palestinian state for Israel's enemies (with Jerusalem as its capital, no less), yet continues to receive glowing adulation. If Clinton even suggested that America's immigration laws might need to be liberalized, he was denounced in the harshest terms; but Bush can actually grant limited amnesty to thousands of illegal aliens, and there is not the faintest whisper of protest.

Do you recall how Clinton was criticized for the "low lifes" he invited to the White House? Well, Bush recently invited wild man rocker, Ozzie Osbourne, to the White House. Have you heard any notable Christian leader take Bush to task for that?

You remember Ozzie Osbourne, don't you? He is the former front man for the heavy metal band, Black Sabbath. He is famous for stage antics such as biting the heads off birds and bats. His abuse of drugs and alcohol are also well known. Furthermore, Ozzie Osbourne desecrated The Alamo by pissing all over it. In spite of this, George W. Bush is said to be one of Osbourne's biggest fans. As such, Osbourne was recently invited to the White House for dinner. Have you heard any criticism of Bush for this?

Obviously, I do not believe President Bush is the antichrist any more than I believed Bill Clinton was. However, I do believe that Bush possesses more deceptive qualities than Clinton did and, therefore, is more dangerous. I also now understand more clearly how even "the elect" can be deceived. Bush' s acceptance by the overwhelming majority of Christian people proves the country is ready for the antichrist, whoever he is.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:24 PM
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1. Interesting.
But all of the Fundies are still voting for him.
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:30 PM
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2. i thought the rapture was "good"?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:35 PM
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6. Not all of the fundies are.
The vast majority of them, for sure. But he's too much of a socialist for some of them. ;)
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wickywom Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:30 PM
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3. They would rather support the antichrist...
than admit being wrong.

It's sad, really.. being addicted to their own self righteousness..

Jesus would be so proud.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:37 PM
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7. he doesn't say bush* IS the antichrist, just very much like him.
Here's the delicious part; since he's only almost as evil as the antichrist, it's OK to vote for him.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:32 PM
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4. Dear God, man! Post that in FREEPERVILLE!
They need to read that one...maybe make a few accidentally start thinking!

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:35 PM
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5. Where did he get the ridiculous idea that Jerusalem
would be part of a Palestinian state? And why is he being such a pig about a Palestinian state? That's just nasty.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:48 PM
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8. Somehow
The word "pissing" makes this whole thing seem inauthentic.
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:58 PM
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9. It speaks volumes

I wouldn't rule out the Anti-christ thing though.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:03 PM
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10. I believe Chuck Baldwin is the Vice-Presidential candidate
On the Constitutional Party ticket. He reads Bush* like a book-- Christian rightwingers cannot take him because he shows them just how hypocritical they are for supporting Bush*.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:06 PM
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12. Isn't that a Dominionist party?
Don't they want a theocracy, basically--or don't they believe the US was "intended" to be one?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:10 PM
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15. The Bush Betrayal
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 11:00 AM by Skinner
http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=113

by Chuck Baldwin
Constitution Party 2004 Candidate for Vice-President

In a recent article, former Georgia Republican Congressman, Bob Barr, wrote, "Has America been betrayed by President George W. Bush? In his most recent book, The Bush Betrayal, James Bovard poses and then answers this question with a resounding 'yes.'"

In his column, Barr also correctly writes, "hich recent president's term in office was characterized by support for the so- called assault weapon ban, a huge increase in deficit spending, bigger budgets for virtually every domestic program, including Americorps and the National Endowment for the Arts, and signing into law a massive increase in federal government regulation of political speech, whose administration would you suspect they were describing? That of Democrat Bill Clinton? Nope. talking about the first term of Republican President George W. Bush."

Mr. Barr is absolutely right! When it comes to Bush's first term in office, never has so much been overlooked by so many!

Millions of Christians and conservatives continue to labor under the obviously erroneous belief that G.W. Bush is a conservative, that there is some huge difference between his policies and those of his Democratic rival, John Kerry. However, the facts do not bear this out.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:14 PM
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17. I'm not really sure what all they believe...
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 01:16 PM by pbl
But it's pretty jacked up.

On Edit: I see you found some stuff on them. I guess you weren't too far off the mark.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:17 PM
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20. I'm visiting their Web site.
:scared:


http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=107


The Themes of our campaign – God, Family and the Republic are designed to reflect this vital task.

We must Acknowledge God, Defend the Family and work to Restore the Republic

We begin – like our forefathers began – at the beginning.

"In the beginning, God created…" Genesis 1:1

America – perhaps the only Country ever founded on a creed – began right here. This first sentence of the Bible is the cornerstone of an American understanding of law and government.

"God Created…" is the very first presupposition upon which the Declaration of Independence and an American view of law and government rests. Jefferson expressed so eloquently in that document that "All men are CREATED equal…" (not evolved equal). He went on to say that the Creator God endowed all men with rights – unalienable rights – of life, and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, among others. He went further still and declared that the purpose of government is to secure and protect and defend these God-given rights.

Ladies and gentlemen, this AMERICAN view of government's foundations and purposes – that there exists a Creator God – that rights come from Him – and that the purpose of civil government is to protect and defend and secure these God-given rights – are the very foundations that we've been talking about.

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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:28 PM
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22. Scary indeed
But the sad part about it is that if some people had their way that's what the Republican Party would look like and in some ways already does.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:04 PM
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11. There are a lot of evangelicals who think this - you'd be surprised.
Unfortunately, not enough to make a dent.
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endnote Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:07 PM
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13. You mean a theocrazy ?
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:08 PM
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14. Check out all these sites for "bush antichrist " and "bush satan"
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:12 PM
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16. Can a RW chri$tian say "pissing"?
I'm shocked. (But not outraged.)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:15 PM
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18. This guy is about as right wing as they come. So the answer must be yes.
He's the VP candidate of the Constitution Party. Here's what his party's presidential candidate has to say about that lllllliberal, George W. Bush:

http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=107

We wondered what sort of Country sends mothers and Daughters and wives and sisters to fight and bleed and die its foreign – undeclared -- undeclared wars.

We wondered what sort of country sends sodomites to fight its foreign – undeclared wars.

We wondered about what kind of an administration declares war on something so vague, so amorphous, and so undefined as Terrorism. We worry about such dangerous and sloppy thinking. Since terror is not an enemy, but the tactic of an enemy, we wonder how such a war could ever be won. How could such a war ever end? How do you defeat a tactic – especially when you practice the same tactic yourself?

We wondered that it's the same sort of country that tortures and executes more than one million of its unborn every year.

We worried about becoming a country whose president backs homosexual civil unions -- whose president wants to give asylum and welfare benefits to millions of illegal aliens -- and whose president insists that both he and the Muslims worship the same god. Well, perhaps they do.

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:13 PM
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23. Oh, I have no doubt he's right-wing
and I actually remember reading this article when it came out a couple years back.

I just find it amusing to see a right-wing religious hack say "pissing on the alamo." :D
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:16 PM
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19. The antichrist, by very definition, is a master deceiver...Bush's angelic
personae makes him much more dangerous...


Bush is only deceptive if you ignore the reality and listen to the PR team of Condi Rice, Vicky Clark and the like.

Reality proves that he is poor at deception.
The Media proves that even a incompetent deceiver can be glossed over.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 01:20 PM
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21. How true is that last line, people encourage the fake messiah!
Bush' s acceptance by the overwhelming majority of Christian people proves the country is ready for the Antichrist, whoever he is.

That's why the bible is so dangerous, it promotes people to not think because it considers intelligence and logic to be unGod-like. How brilliant is that! I need zombies to carry out my control and genocide and torture and oppression so if I actually say it's a sin to be wise or rich, I can control people for what I need of them. The religions of this world have cause more death, torture and pain than any atheist has done. Even the brutal crucifixion was a way of torturing to the ultimate level of pain a body could take without death. And what really blows my mind is Bush thinks he is promoting civilized society by being uncivilized! Bush is evil personified!

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