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BigDaddyCaine Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:21 PM
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Kerry goes goose hunting.
I seen on the news, Dick Cheney talking about Kerry's goose hunting trip. I dont remember the exact quote but it was along the lines of "I see Kerry bought a new camo jacket, makes me wonder how often he really goes goose hunting."

This pissed me off. I hunt every weekend and some weekdays. I am a diehard hunter and their arent many people like me. Most people go once or twice a year. So what if Kerry isnt out their every day...he does have a job to do.

Then it got me thinking...when was the last time Dick went out hunting? Hes supposed to be for the sportsmen. Why isnt his ass buying a new camo jacket and walking through a field in the rain, early in the morning, to wait for something that might not even show? Hell we might get lucky and the heart might start throbbing with all that walking.

I think i remember something about dick and/or dubya hunting on a preserve of some sorts and killing an obscene number of pheasants. (wish i had a link to that) I think something like 50 to 100 birds. Where im from thats called city boy hunting. I bet they left the spent shells laying around. Was Kerry hunting a preserve? I doubt it, i dont know of too many goose preserves. Most people try to shoot geese to control the population, not breed them on preserves increasing the population.

Haliburton/Enron is not for the sportsmen. Dick and Bush (i just noticed that) are environment killers. They are for logging and oil drilling on national park lands, or any land for that matter. They are killing habitat left and right. Kerry will put an end to this crap. They say Sportsmen for Bush, but who the fuck are these sportsmen? Are they blind? Or do they just not care about the environment?

The reason Kerry was all decked out and hunting was to show that he is for sportsmen. He shouldnt have to do that but because of the past democrats and their voting records on some really bad 'feel good' gun control, it seems that its a must. He has to crawl out from the hole he has been put in by the Violence Policy Center and the Brady Bunch. He is still paying for the anti gun position the democrats took in the 90's (why they did this i will never know) and i just hope he can get out of this hole. The environment, wildlife, and REAL sportsmen are depending on him.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:29 PM
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1. Dick Went Hunting With Tony Soprano
Oops, I mean scalia... right when SCOTUS was looking at Dick's Secret Energy Meeting.

Let's not commence on how phoney Bush's "brush cutting is" and I doubt he can actually ride a bicycle.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:30 PM
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2. What hole?
Most of the country (except hardcore crazies) favors reasonable gun control...such as a ban on assault weapons and closing the gun show loophole.

"the anti gun position the democrats took in the 90's (why they did this i will never know)"
More than 30,000 dead Americans a year./...and another 60,000 wounded, all because the GOP lets a corrupt industry set public policy.

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BigDaddyCaine Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:43 PM
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4. blah blah blah
we want this... we want that....

We dont see much of an uproar about an assault weapons ban right now do we? I think it passed by one vote 10 years ago anyways. Even democrats voted against it in 1994 and in 2004.

{i] More than 30,000 dead Americans a year./...and another 60,000 wounded, all because the GOP lets a corrupt industry set public policy.
Is it just me or does this seem more like a War on Drugs problem rather than a gun problem. How do we make 100 million guns disapear? If the war on drugs was handled in a drastically different way we wouldnt have had those numbers.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 04:52 PM
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6. More trigger-happy horseshit.....
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 04:53 PM by MrBenchley
And it's just you.

It's amazing how paranoid gun loonies get. Believe it or not, we can keep the gun industry from selling assault weapons to ciminals and loonies without needing to "make 100 million guns disappear."
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BigDaddyCaine Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:20 PM
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10. I see youre a friendly one...thanks for the name calling
I will try to be a little more civil when i reply to you, and wish that if you reply back that you do the same.

First, im not a loonie or trigger happy. And we can also keep the gun industry from selling assault weapons to criminals and loonies without a ban. An instant background check for all firearms transfers would do just that and it wouldnt piss off gun owners.(the majority)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 06:01 PM
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12. Hey, you got back what you handed out...
Don't cry to me that your "blah blah blah" horseshit got what it deserved.

"An instant background check for all firearms transfers would do just that"
Hell, how about a real background check and a waiting period? How about licensing gun owners and registering all guns? How about not selling the fucking assualt weapons to start with?

"it wouldnt piss off gun owners.(the majority)"
The majority of gun owners support a ban on assault weapons. And who but a fucking loony is pissed off that they can't play with an Uzi?
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BigDaddyCaine Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:10 PM
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13. I should just let it go
but the misinformation is killing me. Its saying "speak up, you know everyones probably heard this before, but what the hell say it again just for the hell of it"

The majority of gun owners support a ban on assault weapons. And who but a fucking loony is pissed off that they can't play with an Uzi?
The first part may or may not be true, i cant be for sure. I know for sure that its not a very big majority. Its like polls, it might be up by a little bit.... or it might be down by a little bit.

But, the part about the loonie playing with an UZI is just not true. You cannot buy an uzi, they are banned. You cant buy a fully automatic weapon, but you can buy one that looks like one. Class 3 firearms like an uzi are banned and have been since 1934. They are only legal to class 3 firearms dealers and collectors and heavily regulated by the ATF.

CANNOT buy an uzi
CANNOT buy an M16
CANNOT buy an AK47

CAN buy a gun that looks like an uzi but shoots like a regular pistol.
CAN buy a gun that looks like an M16 but shoots like a regular rifle.
CAN buy a gun that looks like an AK47 but shoots like a regular rifle.

This is why the assault weapons ban that you are talking about disapeared...it banned a gun for looking like a gun. (kind of a silly gun law:-)) In 1994 it only passed by one vote from VP Al Gore. Many democrats voted against it in 1994. Many democrats also voted against it in 2004. Thats why it is gone.

Scare tactics like AK47's and UZI's flooding the streets is a scare tactic used by anti-gun groups. Ive seen you post in the Justice Public Saftey forum. You should know that you cant buy an uzi today just like you couldnt buy one this time last year.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:51 AM
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14. Too too funny....
Here's another gun "enthusiast" who cannot read an actual law.....

" You should know that you cant buy an uzi today"
Surrrrrrrre......
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:35 PM
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3. The a**hole should know that the ODNR requires "hunter orange"
...for most game, but allows camo for certain waterfowl in the wild, during daylight hours. Excuse JK if he doesn't travel with three hunting outfits on the campaign plane. I've seen pictures of Kerry in hunter's orange on many occasions.

This trip was unlike the duck preserve in Louisiana where Cheney and Anton shot farm raised ducks from the back deck of the hunting lodge.
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BigDaddyCaine Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 03:56 PM
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5. Maybe this is the article i was talking about
I was thinking it was pheasant hunting though. Do you remember if the shoot alot of birds? I remember reading that they shot way over the normal limit but because they were on a paid preserve it didnt matter how many they shot.

Wonder what they did with all the birds they shot? Charity? I doubt it. They probably gave them to whoever wanted them, but you can bet your ass they enjoyed the shooting part. Why would anyone wanna shoot 100 birds? I dont think i get that many all season long.
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 04:52 PM
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7. Hunting is a proud, aristocratic tradition
It is completely in step with Kerry's heritage.
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j_carters_neighbor Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 04:56 PM
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8. I wish he wouldn't hunt, but I guess that is what the
second amendment is for?

If President Kerry has a flaw (and I don't really think he does), it is the hunting thing, he is as manly as they come, he has hunted the most dangerous game and won, why does he need to kill innocent animals just to prove he can be as manly as shrub.
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BigDaddyCaine Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:35 PM
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11. The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting
It is there so the armed populace cannot be ruled by dictators like bush.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 05:07 PM
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9. Bush was on a quail hunt in 1990...
he shot a killdeer by mistake(or stupidity).Anyone who hunts knows quail fly up in a covey, killdeer walk along the ground pretending to be crippled when threatened, trying to lead danger away from it's nest.If you've ever flushed out a covey of quail you will remember it.Gee shooting a crippled bird, sign of things to come?
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