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Sat Oct-23-04 09:15 PM
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The Chris Matthews Show was interesting tonight |
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here in L.A. we get it Saturday nights at 6.30; I think the rest of you get to see it tomorrow. I'll go with the bad stuff first and then the good.
1. Howard Fineman and Andrew Sullivan think Teresa is a "disaster." Andrea Mitchell and the BBC woman, whose name I forget, disagree. Interesting that it breaks along gender lines.
2. In "Tell Me Something I Don't Know," Andrew says MI is trending to george and that, if he pulls that off, all bets are off. I don't even think Andrew believes it will happen, though.
3. Andrea says two interesting things: Powell is working to get discussions going with N Korea again (ummmmmm.....that's what Kerry recommended) and that Richard Holbrooke does NOT want to be Sec. of State. He wants to be NSA instead. They tossed out some names for State, including Biden, Lugar, and Hagel. I don't believe any of those names, BTW.
4. Best news of all. They all thought--including Andrew Sullivan and Mrs. Greenspan--that the election is now Kerry's to lose. He just has to convince people that he's worth the vote, etc. There was still some other stupid shit about people hating george more than they like Kerry, but I don't give a fuck. I'll disregard it for now.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:16 PM
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Kerry has won the last three I think.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:20 PM
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8. They had it a tie, incredibly enough |
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but remember: Noonan is workin gon george's campaign AND on that board.
I don't know that those "who won the week" things are important anyhow, if the polls are to believed. They clearly thionk the momentum is with Kerry and that question is just a press corps circle jerk.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:18 PM
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2. Biden would be a great choice for Sec'y of State...BUT... |
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that's one less Democrat in the Senate.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:19 PM
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7. Sam Nunn would be cool. |
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Or a GOP senator from a state with a Dem governor.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:35 PM
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Kerry can't diss California by putting in Nunn
He pretty much single-handedly plunged the aerospace industry in CA into a depression by moving it all to his home state.
Plus, he's the one who dealt the biggest blow to Clinton's attempts to get rid of anti-gay bigotry in the military.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:37 PM
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:39 PM
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21. For Defense, I'd look to Kerrey or Cleland |
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Graham might be good at "Homeland Security." but I hope they start by renaming it something less Nazi-esque
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:43 PM
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24. The Kerry-Kerrey contrast is too goofy. |
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How about this curveball: Robert Kennedy Jr. for Sec of Interior?
Homeland Security = Bob Graham
Sec of State = Wesley Clark
Defense Sec = Carl Levin
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Sun Oct-24-04 12:32 AM
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:44 PM
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25. I second your nomination of Cleland for Sec of Def |
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Two Kerr(e)ys in an administration would be too confusing. :crazy:
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Sat Oct-23-04 10:59 PM
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31. Agreed. No way it's Nunn. How about Bob Graham at CIA? |
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Sun Oct-24-04 01:09 PM
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42. Nunn is an old fashioned homophobe |
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I read years ago that when Nunn was in the US Senate, he fired any staff member he discovered to be gay. Just a wonderful man, no doubt.
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Sat Oct-23-04 10:42 PM
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29. Is the Gov of Delaware a Dem? If you put Lugar someplace, the Dem |
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Gov gets to pick the replacement until a special election.
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Sun Oct-24-04 12:09 AM
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37. Delaware has a Democratic governor, Ruth Ann Minner |
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A very large and very well spoken blonde woman. I'm fairly certain she will win re-election this year. I saw one debate and the GOP nominee, a former judge named Bill Lee, was generally on the defensive and unimpressive. Minner won the debate.
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Sun Oct-24-04 12:50 PM
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If we really want to mend the fences with our allies, we need someone who will be a diplomat. I've heard Biden speaking about his interactions with foreign leaders, and he is a total ass.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:18 PM
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3. If Holbrooke doesn't want State... |
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who gets it? Bob Graham? Wes Clark? Bill Clinton?
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:27 PM
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11. Fox just announced that Clinton is going to the U.N. |
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I wonder if John Kerry even knows yet who he will be appointing? I think he has other concerns at the moment.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:46 PM
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26. Clinton can't go to the UN? |
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Unless it is as US ambassador to the UN. The Moonie Times rumor was that he wanted to be Sec General... but, permanent members of the Security Council can't be Sec. General.
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Sun Oct-24-04 12:44 PM
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Aren't he and Holbrooke good friends? That would be nice, having a SoS and NSA who are on the same page.
Clark would be perfect for SoS.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:18 PM
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4. I too am noticing lately .... |
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that republicans have taken to trashing THK. It looks like they are having a hard time finding anything wrong with JFK so they're going after his wife.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:29 PM
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13. THK was a Republican until two years ago. They used to love her money. |
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John Heinz once was considered presidential material. Bet if he was around and running, Teresa would be a saint.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:37 PM
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19. After First Lady Stepford, |
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she would be a breath of fresh air.
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Sat Oct-23-04 11:19 PM
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34. They hate her for the same reason they hate |
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Hilary Clinton. She's smart, she's confident, and she's not subservient. Makes all those little boys in grown-up clothes feel insecure.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:18 PM
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5. They got that part about the People hating |
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bushtard..ALL OVER THE WORLD!
Teresa is Wonderful..I know so many people who can't wait for her to be our First Lady..A Real First Lady..
Not someone who would cancel a poetry reading in the White House because some of the Poets were against an Invasion of Iraq!!!!!!
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:19 PM
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6. I like the talk of Sec State and Nat'l Security Advisor |
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A gingerly step on their part toward acknowledging the inevitable.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:21 PM
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:24 PM
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Ive been hearing that for months "Your just anti-bush" well yeah me and the 55 million other "anti-Bush" voters. By the way if you look at the numbers there is no way that bush can win the popular vote, and no one is talking about that.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:28 PM
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12. Two recent polls give Michigan to Kerry including the EPIC |
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poll which is well respected.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:32 PM
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14. The Fab Ms T is a disaster. I just can't warm up to her. |
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And God knows I tired. John Hide her til after nov 2nd.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:34 PM
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15. thats so ironic! When i was having a beer with her the other |
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day she said the same thing about you.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:39 PM
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20. Did the Fab Ms T have have a Beer in each hand ?.........LOL |
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:40 PM
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23. nope just one, but she does know that the Drudge story bothered you |
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Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 09:40 PM by chimpsrsmarter
she said you should be bothered by bullshit from Drudge instead of her holding a beer.
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Sat Oct-23-04 11:02 PM
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32. THK is wonderful I went to hear her speak and she was so warm and |
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insightful. She is soft spoken and an excellent speaker. She reminds me of a European friend of mine - very worldly. I love the new perspective she will bring to the White House. She IS NOT a disaster at all - It's just a notion the Repubs are trying to plant.
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:37 PM
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17. Andrew Sullivan --- ha ha Michigan is Bush Country ! |
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You have some of the biggest unions like the Autoworkers centered right there, and the most anti-union administration in years... what possible evidence that MI would go to the Repukes!
Glad to hear the panel saying its Kerry's to lose. I hope this sentiment keeps the Repukes stay on the defensive... Now they have a new issue to deal with... Why after four years in office is * losing the race!
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:39 PM
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22. Holbrooke wants NSA? Then Clark for Sec'y of State |
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Hey, he'd just be replacing another retired general, right? Hard for the GOPers in the Senate to argue against that.
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Sat Oct-23-04 10:13 PM
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Sat Oct-23-04 09:46 PM
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27. Sullivan is voting for Kerry. |
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Yep - that's right the former * supporter is now the * critic.
His blog is full of trenchant criticism of *.
www.andrewsullivan.com
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Sat Oct-23-04 10:53 PM
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30. They can't stand a powerful woman |
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I think Teresa Heinz Kerry is handling this beautifully.
My God, the woman is a billionaire, speaks 7(?) languages fluently and is one of the most influential women in environment issues today.
She's gonna kick ass being first lady, a real partner for Kerry...
but this creepy fucks just can't stand a powerful woman.
Everytime she even hints she isn't some dewy eyed dope, they jump on her and try to eat her alive...so far, she's escaped.
Makes me sick, but you think the women in this country would wise up fast and realize Kerry is gonna be on their side.
He's married a woman who in many ways (unless he gets President) is more powerful than him and to me, that says he's walking the walk on equality issues.
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Sat Oct-23-04 11:04 PM
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33. THK IS a disaster - she makes me cringe. Lock her away 'til 11/3. |
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Sat Oct-23-04 11:25 PM
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Most people voting for Kerry like her as well.
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Sat Oct-23-04 11:35 PM
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36. I agree 110%. with your statement. |
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I cringe in fear every time she speaks that she will put her foot in her mouth....AGAIN.
The Fab Ms.T is going to be Billy Carter all over again
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Sun Oct-24-04 12:42 PM
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39. She'll be a great First Lady but... |
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If she doesn't zip it before 11/3 she won't have the chance. She turns people off Big Time.
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