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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:19 AM
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Prediction - whoever is down by less than 3 points
or up by more than 3 points in the polls next Monday will win.

It's all about turnout. Whoever is up will see less turnout of their base. Whoever is down will see massive turnout.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:21 AM
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1. No President has ever won reelection with approval rating of less the 50%
Dubya's at 44. That's the reason he will lose.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:09 AM
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7. No President had won election on a 5 to 4 vote, either.
That's the reason I take nothing for granted.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:21 AM
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2. I disagree
The polls are particularly worthless this year. Too many new voters for the polls to be able to assimilate properly. Bush will lose.
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:25 AM
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3. But they do impact voter psychology
And it's all about turnout, but being down a small bit I think is a great thing.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:01 AM
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4. we can make the same psych argument if we're up by a few points
it WILL be ALL about TURNOUT and taking absolutely not even one vote for granted or left behind ...

Kerry. It. On.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:07 AM
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5. Voter psychology is also out the window.
Here's Voter Psychology, v2004 - "This is the suck. Let's get rid of Bush."
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:08 AM
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6. I Disagree...
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 10:09 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Unless something dramatic happens there won't be a consensus on who's winning in the national polls...


The last close presidential elections were 68 and 76....


Some polls had Humphrey and Carter winning...

Some polls had Nixon and Ford winning...

And I doubt the average Joe or Jane follows the polls as slavishly as us...
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:10 AM
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8. I honestly don't think the polls, either way, will affect turnout
at all. This is WAY too close, and people care way too much.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:10 AM
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9. of course
nt
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