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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:00 PM
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"Give me the untrustworthy, lying, arrogant bastard I know....."
..over the person that I do not know. That seems to be the basic campaign message of people that are supporting Bush? They think Kerry is weak and untrustworthy but they KNOW Bush is weak and untrustworthy but they still choose Bush. How can anyone explain such "logic"? Ignorance will kill us all.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:01 PM
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1. There's no explaining it
People are "morans"
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:02 PM
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2. Yes, that's exactly what they seem to be saying.
"Bush is a lying, backstabbing, flip-flopping, arrogant, stupid jackass, but I just don't know about Kerry!"

That's the message from many Bush supporters.

Idiots.

In all fairness, it's really all they can say. They certainly can't produce a logical reason for voting for Bush, because THERE ISN'T ONE!
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:04 PM
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3. Exactly what this Polk County (FL) Bush endorsement
...seems to say. It really is a Bush endorsement, so stop saying that!

http://www.polkonline.com/stories/102404/opi_mess.shtml

History will judge George W. Bush harshly, in our estimation, and unless things change, the harsh judgment will be justified. After narrowly winning the presidency four years ago, his tenure was unremarkable until the shocking events of Sept. 11, 2001 provided him an opportunity for leadership. In some ways, he provided strong leadership in the days and weeks after 9/11 and it became the consensus of America that he was the right man for the times. He and his tough-minded and experienced advisers launched an appropriate and seemingly effective quest to find and eliminate the terrorists responsible for the Sept. 11 carnage.

But soon afterward, the president got off track and erred in taking America to war in Iraq without justification. He spurned diplomacy and coalition building, which would have taken time and patience and would have detracted from the image of the tough and resolute leader prepared to bomb away. Going it mostly alone in invading Iraq was needless, unwise and surely will result in disastrous consequences over the long haul.

The Congress sat by - timid, reticent, gutless - and let Bush have his way. American men and women have died in combat and many more will die because of Bush's choices.

Much of the world views America with disdain and distrust because of Bush's pre-emptive war with Iraq. Much of the Muslim world has been stirred against the United States, in part because of the perception that the U.S. is a bully seeking oil.

Bush's policies have energized terrorists and given them a focal point - Iraq - for their deeds. If he has a way out of this, he hasn't said, except to stay the course. We are most likely in a quagmire that will be years, perhaps decades, in the undoing.

On the domestic front, this president - with U.S. Rep. Adam Putnam and other members of Congress as his handmaidens - has run up an obscene deficit. With nary a veto, Bush has elected to pass enormous debt to future generations. Even conservatives are dismayed, though few are alarmed enough to object vigorously.

The spending spree allowed Bush and the Republican-led Congress to hand out pork in record volume. He provided tax breaks to the most wealthy, while being stingy with funds for education. Sadly, Democrats did not complain loudly enough.

Meanwhile, health care costs have continued to escalate out of control.

Some 45 million Americans do not have health insurance, five million more than four years ago. The Bush administration has done virtually nothing to address either aspect of the health care problem.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:06 PM
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4. The headline: Bush/Cheney despite mess they've made
Says it all.

Bush/Cheney screwed up EVERYTHING, but we're going to blindly follow because we're ignorant.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:12 PM
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5. Somebody nailed it in another thread.
"Class warfare" is the best explanation. It doesn't directly show in the soundbites that freepers use, but the motive is the same. "We've got (or hope to get) ours, and * is going to fuck the poor and helpless so we can keep it." Goes all the way to Iraq. Freepers don't give a shit about the Iraqis (and you can nail them on this) or our troops guarding pipelines, or the reasons why we're doing all these atrocious things in the world or here. All they care about is preserving their own lifestyle. It really explains a lot of the opinions you're seeing and hearing, that you can't make heads nor tails of.

Gyre
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:14 PM
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6. Exactly !
They don't give a shit how many Americans die in Iraq.. :mad:
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:23 PM
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7. If this were my local newspaper I would write a LTTE saying that
this paper isn't even good enough to line a bird cage and it's only worth would be to be to find a copy when there was a need to wipe your ass after shitting in the woods!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:26 PM
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8. Just how much do they distrust and hate Kerry to vote for such a record??
There is a sickness in the minds of these types of thinkers.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:31 PM
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9. Or for my grandparents...
"He's the Republican on the ballot so I'm voting for him." That's the best reason my Grandfather can come up with for voting for this idiot a second time. I can give him dozens of reasons why we need to get rid of Bush (including the possiblity of his grandchildren getting drafted in one of *'s unwinnable wars) and he'll just basically shrug and say "Well, I'm a Republican."

:(
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