After winning, we should not humiliate freepers.

[endnote]

With time and with Chimpy gone they may realize they were living in a dream state and join rationality. If we humiliate them they will never change and they will just wait for a revenge based on emotional reasons ("those bastards humiliated us by rubbing it in").

[GRLMGC]

1. But its so tempting!!!!

Sigh, ok

[still_one]

2. You are right

Kerry has to unite this country in order to undo the damage done by the monkey king

[sui generis]

3. I think perhaps you are too kind

They are evil little mean minded people. In a liberal world there is room for liberals and conservatives. In their world, there is no room for liberals, ever.

[blondeatlast]

77. Nor is their room for intelligent conservatism.

They're just whack jobs; virtually to a man.

[requiem99]

4. Are you joking? They are already planning to try to impeach Kerry.

Before he has even won they are trying to think of ways to throw him out. The Freepers will never ever join mainstream society, they are too sick in the head. Now, traditional conservatives are another story. Much more level headed, they will actually respect a Kerry presidency. Freepers are a lost cause, though, its like trying to speak reason to a rabid dog that also happens to be deaf and blind.

[endnote]

6. I'm just hoping to salvage the few that can be salvaged

I'm not saying to be SOFT on them in any way, policy-wise. We should be firm and aggressive, but try NOT to add insult to injury. That makes things worse.

[blondeatlast]

78. Fuggedaboudid. There's BETTER fish to fry, ones that don't

stink up the ki.., er, message board.

[Guava Jelly]

5. screw those knuckledragging retards I'll shove my fist down

thier koolaid slamming throats.
Traitorous unamerican scumbags that they are... :)

[mitchtv]

70. try this flash

http://www.ericblumrich.com/ihr.html

[endnote]

71. Illogical. Like saying you hate Democrats because of Zel Miller...

[mitchtv]

75. if you say so,but there are Dems I like

au contraire with pukes. From the top down ;catchy tune don't ya think? They are my enemy. more so than any Iraqi.

[unfrigginreal]

7. I don't plan to wait till we win

[kentuck]

8. You won't have to ....

They will humiliate themselves....I've been looking forward to the moment...

[tjdee]

9. Like they did after 2000??

They acted like they won by 30 points or something, they way they puffed their brownshirt chests out and strutted.

And that was BEFORE the Supreme Court ruled.

Your post is very Democratic. Which is why if Bush steals it again, no one's going to do jack shit.

[mikehiggins]

10. You are absolutely incorrect. They will IMMEDIATELY get to

work on restoring their masters to power in 2006.

You can reason with them as much as you like. It is all wasted effort. You might just as well try to talk to the Taliban about female emancipation.

What has to happen, and I'm sorry to say I am in the clear minority in regard to this, is a national campaign to crush the GOP into oblivion, using the same tactics they have used against the people all these years.

What will happen, based on my past experience with liberals and moderates, will be we will all make nice with the people who want us dead or in camps until they regain enough strength to renew their efforts to overthrow this democracy and put their pluto/fundamentalist regime into power again.

But hey, at least we'll be better people than they are, right?

[endnote]

12. No, no, don't get me wrong...

I'm just saying that there is NO reason, other than some juvenile satisfaction, in humiliating a defeated enemy... That will only strenghten them by uniting them more against us... I'm all for being as aggressive, clever, and alert as possible. But we need to be open for those who may become reasonable (but will not if their "pride" comes into play)...

[Touchdown]

45. Defeated Armies were sodomized in Rome.

I think Rome had it right.:P

[blondeatlast]

81. You won't find "those who may become reasonable" at

Free Republic.

I can make a case for some of the BushBots I know, but not for the Freeps. There is a wide swath between the two.

[ldf]

19. i'm with you

we need to throw out the carpet so ALL the dirt can be swept away.

i sure as hell don't think we should play the "amnesty" game and act like they have not pissed all over the constitution.

we gotta do what we gotta do. or we will regret it.

[Auntie Bush]

61. We did nothing when they stole the last election and you can

bet they'll try and steal this one using every dirty trick in the book. We have to be really tough to show them we won't EVER roll over again....that we can fight just as hard and dirty as they can. We can't show any signs of weakness!

[NewJeffCT]

80. agreed - and we also need to get to work immediately

If we don't win back the House, then we start working on that.... if we don't get the Senate, then we work on that (as well as getting Lieberman out for 2006!)

The RW just re-tools itself. I am almost in agreement with American Conservative on what they say about this - Bush has dug our country such a deep hole with Iraq and the borrow & spend economic policies that it will take all of Kerry's effort just to stabilize the country and will leave him vulnerable in 2008. However, another 4 years of Bush could set back the RW movement for at least a generation.

[MsTryska]

116. Yes, they will.

i was jsut talking with a freeper co-worker. He said if kerry wins, Wednesday is going to be a rough day at the office. He also said, but you'll be sorry in 2006.


I said, by all means, let's get this country back on this road to balance. it's never good when our constitutions checks and balances are weighted too far to either side. :hi:


man his jaw dropped and he shut the hell up. *lol* i think he was expecting some sort of freeper-type insanity to come out of my mouth.

[The Jacobin]

11. So humiliate the Right in the press

I need to start collecting all the quotes from right wingers in the press who said anything in 2000 like:

"We should accept the judgment of the Supreme Court and move on."
or
"The Electoral College is the holiest of holies and should not ever be questioned."

[endnote]

13. Actually the RW people did us a favor by humiliating us in 2000

It DID cause our unity and passion, at least in part...

[blondeatlast]

83. Better yet, let's just humiliate the press.

Welcome to DU!

:toast:

[undercover_brother]

14. The act will NOT be returned in kind.

Kerry took the moral high ground in August during the Bush campaign's Swiftee onslaught and he ended up in a hole until the debates.

The Republicans don't fight issues. They fight people. Until the Mass Media returns to journalism instead of being a tabloid than Democrats are forced to confront Republicans on head first.

[endnote]

16. Kerry's mistake at the time is that he did not return fire.

I'm all for using fire against fire... But adding insult to injury does not result in any tangible benefit to the winner...

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. Bullshit.

I plan on gloating to any and all freepers I should come in contact with. The way I see it, they have 8 years of MISERY coming their way for what they did to Clinton + 4 more years of PURE HELL for stealing the 2000 election and letting the chimp destroy our country. NOPE. They will get NO sympathy from me. None.

Anyone who supports the idiot-in-chief has no intentions of ever changing their ways and join rationality. It will never happen. If they can still support that bastard now, after everything he's done, they will never, ever change. IMCPO

[endnote]

17. They will have 8 years of hell because they'll hate Kerry's policies.

That is obvious. But it is more productive to try to convince those who can be convinced. That's the only way, in the long run. At home and abroad. Kerry thinks so too. Look, without Chimpy in power, the brainwashing machine will be much weaker than it has been since 2000. Many Repugs may be redeemable...

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. ahem

Kerry is the guy who told us to stop crying in our tea cups over the stolen 2000 election. Had we stopped crying in our tea cups, we would not have been so motivated to get HIM elected. Just a reminder. :)

[Touchdown]

47. Wrong. They will benefit from Kerry just like the rest of us.

...they'll be resentful when they get better pay, cheaper health insurance, gripe at "socialist" policies, and make sure their fat-asses don't get drafted and shipped to Iran or Syria...and it will eat them away that Bush never gave any of that to them. I for one, welcome the egg on their faces.

[blondeatlast]

88. Wish I'd said that. nt

[blondeatlast]

87. Make the distinction: Republican DOES NOT equal Freeper.

DU is a very, very big tent compared to Freeperville.

I'm gonna gloat like hell to the Freepers, but be civil to thinking Republicans. I've been in the latter's shoes, but I'll chew my arm off if I'm ever the former.

[Auntie Bush]

67. Hey Incog...now tell us how how you really feel.

I feel the same as you.

[demokatgurrl]

18. No sympathy, after what they did to Clinton-

every chance I get to gloat I'm going to use. I am never removing the John Kerry bumper sticker from my car either.

[many a good man]

20. Welcome them to join us in the "reality-based community"

bush*s humiliating defeat Nov 2nd will shock many of them loose from their moorings. I'm an optimist so I believe in the possibility of redemption for all human beings...

[endnote]

21. YES, well said. Have them join the Reality-based community.

The only way to really conduct rational business on earth.

[derbstyron]

25. God will protect them

It will be ok. After all, God's on their side, right? Pat Robertson says so.
He'll take care of them.
If only we could get him to rapture them away before the election.

[Morning Dew]

60. Rapture before the election would be bad...

after all, the real Christians happen to be voting for Kerry.

[blondeatlast]

90. Thank you. nt

[blondeatlast]

89. I like to think of myself as a Christian

and I'm canvassing, calling, databasing, donating, and voting for Kerry.

[derbstyron]

113. corruption

That's good to hear. You know, of all the things that the right wing has destroyed the assault on religion is the worst. There is no love of the "word" or the preaching of the gospel in what they say.

I will never understand how one can read the bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ and then turn around and support the extinction of homosexuals, the raping of the environment, grovel for money and disown the lesser and struggling classes, all while whoring themselves out to every corporation. It astounds me.

But we do have a few on our side. I remember a few months back, watching Now on PBS. It's an excellent show if you've never seen it. It's hosted by the wonderful Bill Moyers (who's an ordained Minister). They interviewed some black Minister from a Washington DC church. He had become well known for stating the obvious - there is nothing christian about turning your back on those who need you the most.

I remember him saying that veep Cheney attended the services one day. He invited the vice president to sit down and talk with him about how the president's policies were destructive to the poor and blacks, decidedly unchristian. He never received an answer. Or a meeting.

What a shock. Christian in name only doesn't make you christian. There are going to be some shocked people when they die and realize (at least in my mind) that God isn't too happy with hatred and bigotry. False prophet's indeed.

[rockydem]

22. Freepers and other wingnuts must be destroyed

their ideology must be destroyed...

They need to be humilated, their hopes and dreams crushed. They must be driven from politics, shunned and metaphorically spat upon....

[RafterMan]

23. Humiliate is precisely what we should do

When Richard Perle walks into a room, it should be like Glenn Close at the opera in the end of Dangerous Liasons. PNAC should be looking to change its name to something less despised like, oh, the Klan. And the only people claiming to be "neocons" should be action movie villains.

Emotional revenge? Put a stake through their hearts and bury them at the crossroads. Humiliate away.

[endnote]

28. You should return fire if fired upon. But you need to be open

for those who may be willing to join us or at least are willing to try to see how we think and see if it works for them.

[Uben]

24. I'll be gentle...

...after the first four years of stuffing K/E down their throat 24/7!
After I have repeated every BUsh atrocity thousands of times
After I have thought of every possible angle to humiliate them
After I have seen every one of them crying in their Wheaties

Fuck it, I aint being gentle, I'm gonna have some fun!

[The Backlash Cometh]

26. Are you kidding? We're going to go back to checking our mail

I certainly won't bring any topics up. At least 90% of the people that I see on a (necessary) social basis are Republican.

[BootinUp]

27. Yep, just remember this is serious shit

We're not doing this for the humiliation factor.


Good post. :)

[endnote]

29. Seriously, do you guys realize this is juvenile shit you are throwing

around? Perhaps you are all teenagers here, I don't know. But just think with your head, not with your gut, like Chimpy does. If you humiliate people just to have fun you get NOTHING out of it, you have more determined enemies next time, and more numerous ones as well... The best way is to get what you want, play as hard as you need to play, but always with a smile in the end and a nice word.

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. I'm 49 and hate republicans for what they have done to my country.

I have no intentions of making their life easy or pleasant in any way. They deserve everything they get in the next 12 years. Repuke, RW religious zealots are NOT going to change just because a Democrat is "nice" to them.

[RafterMan]

36. Sad

You seem to be the one turning to name-calling. You made a poor, incorrect argument and defended it by calling your opponents Chimp-like teenagers.

Perhaps you are the one who should think with your head. Heaping scorn on the freepers is the best way to ensure the soft middle is ashamed to be associated with them.

You claim the enemy will be "more determined" next time -- how so? This time they called the candidate a spineless war criminal and have tried to fix the vote. Are you suggesting they've been holding back?

"...and more numerous..." Oooh, that's ominous. But what is it based on? You sound like you're modelling the election on Fallujah or something. But we're not talking about bombing them, we're talking about using social pressure to keep people from identifying with them.

[mikehiggins]

74. No, I think you really don't get it

There is no way these guys are going to be more determined next time and they are not "Chimpy's boys." Chimpy is THEIR bitch and he's dancing to their tune like the good little wet-brained puppet he's always been.

The right wing movement that has come out of the woodwork over the last few years is the TRUE enemy, as they have been since the days when Bill Buckley gave them credibility and the John Birch Society and others gave them the ability to intimidate.

They are the people who support talking heads like Ann Coulter and her ilk (if there is another such creature out there) and who provide the marching troops that support whores like DeLay and others.

So no. We're not going to humiliate these people because its fun. We're going to oppose them because they are as bit a threat to freedome, democracy and our Constitution as the Nazis and the Taliban and Joe Stalin ever were.

Its time for those of us who live in the "reality based" world to check our premises, and understand that some people really can't be reached, some people really are as bad as they seem and some people see nothing wrong in crushing you because of some page in the Bible.

Its not a game. It has never been a game.

[shanti]

95. bull-shit

they don't play that way and neither should we. if you do, you will be DEAD and they won't give a tinker's damn.

[baltodemvet]

31. Oh, ok

You're right. Let's just humiliate them on 11/2 and be done with it.

"I'm a man but I can change--if I have to (I guess.)"

[Arkana]

32. I agree

If we win, we should take the high road--even though it will be INCREDIBLY tempting to troll Freeperville until it self-destructs.

[Hello_Kitty]

33. There will be no time for gloating anyway

The right wing noise machine will unleash their torrent against Kerry the same way they did against Clinton. I predict the first thing they will do is go after Teresa with a vengeance. We cannot let it happen. From the get go we must get ready to call, write, email, and protest the media whores who will facilitate the lies. They need to be put on notice that we are serious and we are NOT going to allow our President to be hindered by fighting off ridiculous witchhunts.

[jmowreader]

55. If they try it, they're gonna be shocked!

The freepers will start by attacking Teresa (speaks French, born in a foreign country, donates to the Tides Foundation, has 57 factories in foreign countries) and Elizabeth Edwards (trial lawyer, not rail-thin like Pickles is).

The response from either one of those women will curl the freepers' nose hairs. Elizabeth looks like she's the sweetest lady imaginable when you're not pissing her off, but I got a feeling "shove it" is light for her. She's a very good lawyer. Lawyers can take care of themselves, and she's better at it than most. I think Elizabeth could be meaner than Teresa if need be, and we've all seen Teresa in her finer moments.

[cheshire]

35. Depends on the person. Some can see and some never will.

[seabeyond]

37. these are the people i love, no desire to humiliate

too important to resort so easily to such an empty retaliation. too much to do. it is like with a child, cult member, deprogramming. gently brining them to aware. i think once bush is out, even most of them will let out a breathe of release, except the angriest. screw the angriest. they have to be dropped along the wayside.

[demwing]

38. We must act like victors, but not bad winners

They will be bitter enough with the loss, we need not rub it in. Also, that wheel may turn some day, and they might be back in the winners seat. Karma can be a bitch.

But we should not think that a loss will some how snap them out of their delusional behavior. Have we learned nothing in the past 12 years? These people are 100% sold into their group mindthink.

Still, we must take advantage of every bit of power that Kerry's win affords us. We need to make changes that will last a generation, like supreme court and federal judges appointed. Employment and tax programs that work together to create good jobs in America and to link employment to patriotism.

Most of all (and I think this point deserves its own thread) we need to come up with an alternative to the corporation as a business model.

Co-ops? Collectives? ...I really dont know, but corporations are anti-democratic by nature. You wonder why so many people do not vote? My guess is that there is a direct link to corporatism. Corporations divide people into classes and teach workers that they live in a social order where power does NOT depend on the consent of the governed.

As I said, there's a whole thread in that discussion...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

39. The very day Kerry gets sworn in

there will be an effort to get him out of office through any possible means. If by some unfortunate turn of events the Republicans should still be in control of Congress, look for endless investigations, harrassment and complete gridlock. This election won't end on November 2nd, 2004, even if Kerry is the uncontested winner of the popular and electoral college vote. The election will continue through the right wing press, the corporate cable news channels, and talk radio. If the right can't win the election in the voting booth, they will try to undo it over the next four years through innuendo, lies, scandal mongering, and outright defiance of the power of the executive office. It will be worse than it was for Clinton, especially if their beloved monkey-god suffers a humiliating defeat.

Don't humiliate them with petty gloating, but don't stop fighting them either.

[henslee]

40. How bout we just make them ladies underwear and do human pyramids?

[Anarcho-Socialist]

41. I don't think any of us should pro-actively rub it in

But if any Freeper starts spouting shit about Clinton, Kerry or anyone else, then they deserve a smack-down back to Earth...

...and also a reminder of what failed policies they had: economically - Clinton created 22 million new jobs and Bush* lost 800,000...

...and the debacle that was Iraq. 1100 US deaths and 70,000 Iraqi deaths.

[endnote]

48. YES, I agree with that... Fire with fire.

[MrModerate]

42. Let's define FReepers . . .

If you mean specifically the pathetic posters on Free Republic, don't worry -- those fruitcakes'll drown in their own bile. And no one outside the FReeper community takes them seriously anyway.

However, if you mean the VRWC (which almost certainly overlaps with the FReeper community), then humiliation is irrelevant.

We have to come after them, hammer and tongs, with every weapon at our disposal: the rule of law; public approbation; informed consent; tolerance; a balanced approach; transparency; honesty; sincerity; wisdom . . . and all the rest of the weapons that burn their hands when they try to touch them.

Shine a light on 'em until they shrivel.

(Oh, and keep Georgie's ass in court with about 6 million lawsuits --start with Harken energy and work forward -- until we can delive him to the Hague.)

[belle]

43. Is that even possible? I'm not sure they're capable of feeling shame...

If they were, wouldn't we have seen some signs by now? I mean.

[Wat_Tyler]

44. I doubt it. Best just to isolate and ignore them.

They're bitter-enders. They won't change.
They will, however, be left behind.

[Flammable Materials]

46. DON'T TAUNT THEM ... BUT LET THEM KNOW THEY'RE ON NOTICE

... we're not going to put up with their bullshit when Kerry becomes president.

[Kahuna]

51. AMEN to that, Flammable.

:thumbsup:

[goodwalt]

49. Screw That!

The ONLY REASON they were able to ascend to power in the first place is their absolutely ruthless disregard for truth and fair-play. The LESSON here, is that once you get your foe down- you don't give him a hand up- you keep kicking him until you are SURE he is not getting up again. I think that's from Leviticus.

[maine_raptor]

50. The 2004 Election, which every way it goes,

is just one in a string of battles that streches ahead and behind us.

Conversion, not humiliation, will help our side better as the battles rage.

[TXDemGal]

52. FTS! I plan to revel in our victory

Wingnut humiliation level be damned. I have no doubt that if Kerry wins they will try everything possible to remove him from the presidency just like they did with Clinton.

These freaks deserve no mercy. I pray that Kerry-Edwards win in a fucking LANDSLIDE!

[endnote]

53. You sound as bad as they do, in case you did not notice...

Use your brain. If you get what you want, there is no need to be a jackass. Many of them are regular folks who happen to have grown up in places where no other views were ever discussed.

[mitchtv]

69. endnote, pass this on to those lovely freeptard friends of yours

a real cathcy tune for all
http://www.ericblumrich.com/ihr.html

[Technowitch]

54. Agreed: We MUST NOT become the thing we hate.

[goodwalt]

58. Wrong Lesson!

We must fight the thing we hate on a level playing field! Our Repug foes will stoop to any depth to scratch, claw and discredit us. White Water ring any bells? Election Theft/fraud? Gerrymandering (sp?) in TX? The ONLY reason the MINORITY national party, whose policies are demonstrably inimical to the best interests of most Americans have been able to gain power is THAT THEY FIGHT DIRTY, WHILE WE TRY TO STAY ABOVE THAT SORT OF THING! I will NEVER condone voter fraud by ANY candidate, but aside from that, we MUST fight them just as hard, and just as ruthlessly.

Take a knife to a gun fight, and you are going to lose every time.

[ciaobox]

56. Um? What?

We SHOULD AND WILL humiliate them to tears. Population shifts are making Neocons and their agendas obsolete. This was the LAST election in which their "Southern Strategy" had any chance of success. Over the next 10-20 years, population shifts in Florida, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada and even TexASS will ensure that neoconservatives will become a thing of the past.

As such, it is our DUTY to make sure they are humiliated to the point of becoming a national joke. Over time, we will retake the congress and the courts. Once we have a more European-style Democracy in place, they will be irrelevent.

[endnote]

59. You can humiliate the IDEOLOGY, not the people.

That is the way to go. Humiliating the people is the wrong thing to do.
But I'm all for getting rid of the obviously incurable dishonest assholes, like Delay and Limbaugh, for example. Right now, we need to look like the rational party that has a chance to unite the nation in the future.

[Mountainman]

57. Fuck that ! Hey freeptards, your going to lose, your going to lose!

And oh, by the way, get over it!

[Rev_Karl]

62. Let them know you feel their shame...

and understand their mistake. However, we should never look at their enthusiastic support of destruction and their willful ignorance to the facts as anything less than a shameful activity. They have to learn the values of humanity before humanity is destroyed and the poor choices they've made should haunt them. Too bad if it hurts their feelings, their support of this administration has contributed to it's policies of greed and death.

[endnote]

63. TOTALLY AGREE! Telling them WHY they are wrong is necessary

But mocking for the sole purpose of inflicting humiliation and pain is the wrong way to go.

[brooklynite]

64. I agree...

We should just sit back and enjoy the show as they tear each other apart arguing about who "lost" the election and why.

[endnote]

66. That's right. Remember : Civil War within the Repub party, either way.

[nonconformist]

65. Sorry, but they set the tone here

They went after Clinton viciously, stole an election and have tried to paint us all as traitors. I will take great pride in mocking their meltdown.

We do need to be more united, but as a reality-based Democrat I know that they're already getting prepared to constantly attack the Kerry presidency. When we tried to be nice they stomped all over us and called us weak. No more.

[endnote]

68. Keep the eye on the goal. And work relentlessly to achieve it.

Certain things may give you momentary satisfaction, like mocking the losers, but they add no value to a long-term strategy. If anything, they interfere with it. One can be firm, aggressive and logical. We need to have good strategies in place, not a mocking party.

[progressivebydesign]

72. We're NOT THERE YET!!! We need to stop celebrating!

Work, work, work! I've seen too many threads today of a celebratory nature! We CAN'T do that!! It's like the guy doing the touchdown dance on the FIRST YARD LINE! Don't DO IT!!!

[Renew Deal]

73. The executions should be delayed?

;)

[Walt Starr]

76. Sorry, not gonna do it

wouldn't be prudent.

[Skittles]

79. you don't get it, endnote

FREEPERS ARE NEVER GOING TO CHANGE. They prefer to remain the stupid, ignorant assholes they are; THAT IS WHAT MAKES THEM FREEPERS.

[Terran]

82. Sadly, you're right

We'll be lucky if we can through to a few of their kids.

[The Magistrate]

84. That Is Poor Advice, Mr. Note

Better far to emulate a fellow they will be quite familiar with, Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, and "Keep the sceer on...".

There are three phases to victory, and all must be executed successfully: the preparation, the assault itself, and the exploitation. It is in the last that success is most often and most catastrophically forfeited.

It is essential that the criminal element on the right, the crony capitalist boodlers, the election thieves, the bribe swillers, be prosecuted, persecuted, disgraced, defamed, demonized, and incarcerated, and their followers must be demoralized to the point of suicidal depression, and beaten back into the kennels that are their natural abodes. It will not be possible to restore and maintain liberty and the people's rule in our country if this step is ommitted.

"Kill one, warn one hundred."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[endnote]

93. Mr. Strate, your message sounds KKK-like to me.

[RafterMan]

94. KKK-like?

But the guys the magistrate is tallking about are guilty...

[endnote]

97. That was exactly what the KKK used to say. No?

They're guilty, all blacks are, and so we lynch them...

[RafterMan]

101. Uh, but these guys really *are* guilty

You're now equating humiliating freepers with lynching blacks.

Truly unbelievable.

[endnote]

102. Well, somebody in this thread is suggesting executing them...

[The Magistrate]

107. Nonesense, Sir

My character is afflicted with many flaws, but pretending to be better than my foes, thank Heavens, is not among them. The criminal element on the right must be smashed down to impotence for a generation; if this is not done, we will simply have an endless series of coups, and sooner or later, we will fail to stand one off, and our country be turned into a reactionary's paradise. If you wish to equate this with the Ku Klux Klan, Sir, you are welcome to it, but it will not affect me in the slightest.

"Politics ain't bean-bag."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[endnote]

108. Obviously, anybody who's involved CRIMINAL behavior

should be neutralized. Be they right wingers or left wingers. There's plenty on both sides, I'm afraid.

[The Magistrate]

110. That, Sir

Includes both current executives, most of the Republican Congressional delegation, and the majority of their fund-raisers.

Make no mistake: the knife must be driven deep and twisted hard. There is no room for attempts at even-handedness and equivalence.

"Always kick a man when he's down."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[RafterMan]

111. Why are you here

if not to prep for ideological warfare?

This marauding band of criminal gangsters stole the election, was too busy handing out crony-presents to prepare for a terrorist attack, lied to the public, launched an unnecessary war for god-knows-what reason, slaughtered people by the tens of thousands, ran up trillions in debt, suspended the fourth ammendment and the Geneva convention, but "there's plenty on both sides"?

The Magistrate is correct. If we don't put these thugs away when we've got them down, they'll come back and do the job right.

[RunningFromCongress]

85. I will only mock them if kerry takes EC and not PV

[zulchzulu]

86. I plan on rubbing their noses in their own shit for a while

They will try to screw up Kerry's efforts at every turn and we should not move our boots from their necks until they either learn the issues or give up, cry and run away.

This is war.

[hinachan]

91. As Eric Cartman said, "Why the f*ck not?"

:D

[SoCalDemocrat]

92. They'll be trying to Impeach Kerry Nov 3rd

They will wait and see.

They'll try to impeach him for war crimes from Vietnam, or anything they can think of.

[RummyTheDummy]

96. Bullshit -- they should all be executed for treason

End of story.

[endnote]

99. 50% of Americans should be executed for treason ?

That is a hell of a rational argument dude... I doubt the Reality-based community would welcome you.

[RummyTheDummy]

103. Freepers aren't 50 percent

They're the 2-5 percent of REPUBLICANS who give "sane" Republicans a bad name.

Anyone who needs a refresher course in what the "freepers" have done to this country at this point in time is a lost cause.

[endnote]

104. Irrational fanatics have to go, from the right AND from the left.

Look, I agree that ANYBODY who is actively and systematically trying to screw with the Republic should go... I'm all for that as I said multiple times in this thread.

[RummyTheDummy]

105. I stand by my comments

They have committed treason and crimes against humanity and the penalty for both is death.

[endnote]

106. So, you are the incarnation of the law of the world?... Please...

[harpo]

98. I will remind them that they are the minority

[endnote]

100. That is fair.

[lady raven]

109. another way to think about it..

They've spent all this time humiliating themselves already that it would really just be a waste of OUR valuable time to even care about how they're feeling. LOL

[endnote]

114. Well said!

[mitchum]

112. FUCK THEM! NO QUARTER!

[swag]

115. Not even my sister-in-law?

Oh, I guess you're right.

Being married to my brother is probably humiliation enough.

*wave*