NYT article about explosives is up already

[MassLiberal]

Top story, page 1:

http://www.nytimes.com/

[Name removed]

1. Deleted message

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[qanda]

4. You have to edit your post to include only four paragraphs

It's a violation of copyright laws. There's an edit button in the bottom right corner of your post that you can use to edit.

[LibLover]

5. Only if you don't credit the source.

I just don't want people to get cookied if they don't have to.

[qanda]

10. I'm trying to tell you...

That it's against the rules to post more than four paragraphs of an article, but I guess you think I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll just let your post be deleted so you can see for yourself.

[whistle]

2. The last three paragraphs sum up the total incompetence and lack...

...of focus by the Bush administration as to what the real purpose was for invading Iraq if in fact they were seeking WMDs and making sure that weapons never got into the hands of terrorists:

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The Qaqaa facility, about 30 miles south of Baghdad, was well known to American intelligence officials: Saddam Hussein made conventional warheads at the site, and the I.A.E.A. dismantled parts of his nuclear program there in the early 1990's after the Persian Gulf war in 1991. In the prelude to the 2003 invasion, Mr. Bush cited a number of other "dual use" items - including tubes that the administration contended could be converted to use for the nuclear program - as a justification for invading Iraq.

After the invasion, when widespread looting began in Iraq, the international weapons experts grew concerned that the Qaqaa stockpile could fall into unfriendly hands. In May, an internal I.A.E.A. memorandum warned that terrorists might be helping "themselves to the greatest explosives bonanza in history."

In an interview with The Times and CBS in Baghdad, the minister of science and technology, Rashad M. Omar, confirmed the facts described in the letter. "Yes, they are missing," Dr. Omar said. "We don't know what happened." The I.A.E.A. says it also does not know, and has reported that machines tools that can be used for either nuclear or non-nuclear purposes have also been looted.

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Jesus H Christ! How stupid can the Bush administration be? I guess totally fucked up stupid! :wtf:

Then Condi Rice admits that they only found this out last month? These people are DOUBLE DUMB! They are so dumb, they don't know how dumb they are!

I'll bet Rumsfeld did not let one single barrel of oil escape into the hands of looters though.

[qanda]

3. This is absolutely unbelievable!!!!!!

What were they thinking? I guess it doesn't matter if terrorists get their hands on weapons as long as Saddam is in a jail when they do it. This is completely insane!

[Carla in Ca]

11. I agree...

This is what has been stated all along. The inspections were WORKING! This stuff was under lock and key, until idiot invaded. This is past dumb. Dare I say what it IS?

Inspections were working.
This 'war' was for oil.
1,100+ dead, 8,000+ wounded soldiers.
How many Iraqis dead, 25,000?
New estimate of number of insurgents now at 25,000 and being funded by Saudi Arabia and entering from Syria.
Army said yesterday they will forgive several billion dollars unaccounted for by Halliburton.
Polls now show that religious leaders, not Allawi, are more appealing to lead the country.

This is a disgrace. I think it is an impeachable offense.

[LibLover]

6. If they found explosives

If you're going to have a war (Why not? I mean, if you have no conscience and you've got all the stuff anyhow...:eyes: ) why not blow up the places where your victims keep their explosives? Were we short of cruise missiles that day?

[Bongo Prophet]

15. How dumb they are?

One of those unknown knowns" methinks.

Unknown to them.

Known to us.

And most of the readers of NYT.

Wonder how much airplay this will get...ALOT I hope.

[Firespirit]

7. What a pattern

Uh... who best protects us again?

The ports aren't secured here in America; why should an explosives cache be secured in Iraq? No friggin' wonder our security is "up in the air." Kerry, or someone, should tie all this together and blow a big fat hole in that last public misconception about *.

(Aside: The "air" comment IS beneficial to us. There is a distinct semantic difference between saying that something is "up in the air" and that it can't be guaranteed beyond a shadow of a doubt. "Up in the air" suggests a total lack of control over whatever it is, security in this case.)

Bush best protects us?

The only, repeat ONLY things that this administration protects are their own asses.

[MO_Dem]

8. CNN even made slight mention of this

at 11 p.m. Sun night!

[Neecy]

9. Outrageous

Forget November 4th, IMPEACH THIS INCOMPETENT BASTARD NOW.

[demzilla]

12. Al Qaqaa is ca-ca for Chimpy

Chimpy, meet the dominant story in the news cycle for the next few days. And start packing your bags, if you haven't already.

[bush equals idiot]

14. Let's get Saddam back in charge of Iraq.

PL-E-E-A-A-ASE! We need to have somebody who knows what they're doing.

[demzilla]

13. This what Chimpy's incompetence has wrought

Dick Cheney says we have to worry about what again?

Four paragraphs:

Dr. ElBaradei, a European diplomat said, is "extremely concerned" about the potentially "devastating consequences" of the vanished stockpile. . . .

A special property of HMX and RDX lends them to smuggling and terrorism, experts said. While violently energetic when detonated, they are insensitive to shock and physical abuse during handling and transport because of their chemical stability. A hammer blow does nothing. It takes a detonator, like a blasting cap, to release the stored energy.

Experts said the insensitivity made them safer to transport than the millions of unexploded shells, mines and pieces of live ammunition that litter Iraq. And its benign appearance makes it easy to disguise as harmless goods, easily slipped across borders. . . .

More worrisome to the I.A.E.A. - and to some in Washington - is that HMX and RDX are used in standard nuclear weapons design. In a nuclear implosion weapon, the explosives crush a hollow sphere of uranium or plutonium into a critical mass, initiating the nuclear explosion.