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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:08 PM
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Bill Clinton for Chief Justice
At the very least, the nomination alone will put limbaugh back into rehab; push Wyrich deeper in his hole and make lil ricky santorum feel more at ease going to the kennel.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:09 PM
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1. He wants to be Secretary General at the UN (NM)
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:19 PM
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10. Really? That story seemed like a freeper-bait leak type bs report.
You know, something to get bush*s base's panties one more twist.

From what I've read BC couldn't be UN Sec Gen. First of all Asia is up next to provide a candidate for the post and secondly permanent members aren't allowed as Sec Gen. Not that I don't think it's a great idea, but Chief Justice William Jefferson Clinton has a freeper-skull-exploding ring to it!
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:32 PM
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17. For freepers, Clinton as Chief Justice is another Democrats banning
the Bible non-issue.
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Amigust Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:27 PM
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15. Amb. Richard Holbrooke says tradition doesn't allow it.
"there is longstanding tradition which is not about to be changed, that the Secretary-General cannot come from one of the five permanent members of the Security Council . . . there is zero chance that he can be a Secretary-General of the UN"

Randi Rhodes 10-22 interview (3.56 Mb mp3)
http://www.randirhodesarchives.com/
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:39 PM
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19. Thanks for clearing that up
I heard that on some talking head show and I guess whoever brought it up had no clue what they were talking about.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:59 PM
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33. I hope not- not enough for Clinton. He would be wasted
there. I like him doing what he's doing now or, if he must join the administration, something big like Sec of State.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:10 PM
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2. Giving Clinton a Lifetime position in the gov't would be awesome
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:12 PM
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3. Honestly, I would rather have a justice more liberal than Clinton...
Some kind of diplomatic position would behoove Clinton...especially since he's going to be the last President to have lifetime Secret Service detail.
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Steelangel Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:13 PM
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5. Agreed. I rather to have Clinton as Secretary General at the UN..
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:13 PM
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6. Cuomo, reportedly, said "no" . . .
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 02:14 PM by TaleWgnDg


edited to add: Mario, that is. Mario Cuomo (as opposed to his kid)
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:12 PM
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4. oh, wow, I've been secretly wishing for this to happen since Clinton
left office . . . indeed! What an outstanding U.S. Supreme Court justice -- whether an Associate Justice or Chief Justice -- Clinton would make! And about time too, way over-time for a moderate-liberal to take the bench of this country's highest court.





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nostalgicaboutmyfutr Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:16 PM
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7. Clinton/Cuomo....won't happen....
clinton will never be the UN SG....nor any american...it will always go to a no Sec. Counsel country, likely a 3rd world country...

I think that Cuomo, for all his genius, willl not accept a nod to the SCOTUS as he has some baggage that would then become full knowledge....

But there are other things they both can do...look at the work of th Jimmy Carter...
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:17 PM
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8. Bill Clinton - a great mind and a great heart - perfect for the CJ-SC
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:18 PM
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9. Another suggestion Al Gore for Chief Justice
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:21 PM
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14. Now that's more like it...
I'm not a fan of Al Gore's personality. He kind of rubs me the wrong way.

Perfect for the U.S. supreme court, though. He has the legal expertise, and I'll get to read about him without seeing him.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:06 PM
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24. Ummm, was Al ever a lawyer?
That's sort of a prereq for the SCOTUS, I think.

Bake
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:20 PM
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11. didn't he have his law license suspended?
that sounds like a pretty dry job for the big dog.

let him be sec. state where he'd could get palestinian statehood done. that's step #1 for ending islamic terror.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:09 PM
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26. He was "disbarred" from the SC bar
But he did not give up his law license (if I recall correctly), which would have been issued by the state of Arkansas.

It would actually be poetic justice for him to be appointed CJ. Might be a little dull for him, though.

Bake
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:57 PM
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30. he tried to get a peace deal brokered
Arafat turned him down.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:20 PM
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12. What a lousy idea.
I wish people would stop with the lionizing of Clinton. I found him likeable, entertaining, a superb politician and a pretty mediocre president. He squandered the opportunities given him. I don't want to see him as a Justice or as Secretary General. I don't want to see any American as Secretary General.
Go ahead, flame me for not bowing at the Clinton altar.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:08 PM
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25. You really didn't need to give us permission, lol.
What squandered opportunities are you talking about?

You must mean when he constantly whipped the repukes asses, he didn't walk over there to the hill and laugh directly in their faces. Is that the squandered opportunities?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:42 PM
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28. No, I was thinking
more of health care. Love Hillary, but she shouldn't have been so front and center. In the beginning of the administration they rushed into things without much success. And yes, I sure do wish he'd kept his pants zipped and not lied.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:53 PM
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29. Every administration has its trials
less of them have the successes that his did, especially given the congress he had to work with and the general political mood against government programs, which was not his fault. But you're entitled to your opinion of course.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:58 PM
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32. the mistake
was promoting NAFTA before health care reform.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:20 PM
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13. I'd rather have Johnny Cochran there
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The Chronicler Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:29 PM
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16. Eliot Spitzer
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:01 PM
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35. No... he has to stay in New York
We need him to be our next Governor. :)
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:39 PM
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18. not the best choice for SC
Don't get me wrong, I love Clinton. Great President.

But, he wouldn't be ideal for the SC.

Despite what Bush would undoubtedly do given the chance to name a Justice, the best choice for a justice is someone non-political (as much as that's possible) with a record of interpreting the law fairly and in a non-partisan manner.

Clinton is absolutely political. He is purely a political animal. He'd be great serving the US in some other fashion (working to solve the Israeli-Palestinian problem, for example) but not as a SC Justice.
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:42 PM
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20. Do you really think he would want it?
The life of a Justice is dry. It's also somewhat non-political. I don't think I would want him there. I'd much rather have him at rallies, etc...
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rullery Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:43 PM
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21. Precedent: William Howard Taft was Chief Justice
of the U.S. Supreme Court after serving as President. I think this is an excellent idea, and would make good use of Clinton's intellect and experience.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:09 PM
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Taft didn't exactly distinguish himself
NT
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:59 PM
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34. Right. Taft is actually the least influential C.J. ever
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 03:59 PM by atre
excepting the pre-Marshall era.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:04 PM
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36. And Clinton is no Taft.
BTW , Everyone forgets that Clinton was a constitutional Law Professor. And he wasn't dibarred.He was temporarily suspended from practicing law for five years. The time factor is almost up.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:09 PM
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27. I agree he would be great, IF he could be confirmed. n/t
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:45 PM
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22. That would be a disastrous choice
Kerry ought to take the high road by appointing judges to the federal court who have impeccable legal credentials (Clinton hasn't practiced law since he was Arkansas attorney general nearly 30 years ago), a nonpartisan background, and a firm commitment to enforcing Supreme Court precedent in a fair and impartial manner.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:06 PM
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37. Non partisan background?
There is no such thing, otherwise there wouldn't be any nominees! And We have to have them partisan to us!
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:51 PM
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23. Senate will never vote to confirm
Besides which, he surrendered his license to practice law.

He doesn't have the judicial temperament, anyway. He's never been any kind of a lawyer since leaving law school. Not the best use of him.
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:57 PM
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31. Is there anyone here who has gone to law school...
who thinks this is a good idea?

Nope? I didn't think so. Let me see if I can explain why...

In law school, there are a few different niches of people. One includes top-ranking students: the ones who devote their lives to the law; they eat it, they breathe it, they live it. While these may not be the best and brighest among youur class, they are your best and brightest legal minds: they can determine and apply the law to even the most complex set of facts.

At the bottom of the class, you have your politically-inclined students. These people hardly study at all. They are much more concerned with image than academics, and thus spend their time trying to obtain name recognition and notoriety. When they do pursue a legal career, it is often a short term with the D.A.'s office or with some very small firm... whatever they do legally, it is a mere stepping stone their ultimate destination: politics. Clinton and Kerry, God bless them, both fall in this group.

From among those two groups (admittedly there are others)... who do you want on the Court?

The people here who know nothing about the law apparently want to sex up the position by putting in some people with whom they are familiar. This isn't how things are done. I can assure you that Kerry is not so glib about the importance of a Supreme Court appointment.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:09 PM
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38. Again, top ranking student
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 04:09 PM by saracat
and constitutional law professor as well as Attorney General of Arkansas. Clinton is more than qualified. I am not sure he would want it, but you never know. And I can't think of another jurist I would rather have protecting the rights of the underdog!
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rullery Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:42 PM
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39. There might be some difficulty getting Clinton confirmed
by the Senate, I agree. However if we take control of the Senate this election, it might be possible. After all, Clinton has served two terms as our President! As for his being political, what would you call a Supreme Court that presumed to take over the election in 2000? The more conservative justices ignored the popular vote which Gore won by half a million votes, and gave the election to Bush by a five-to-four decision! I can think of nothing more suitable than for Scalia and Thomas to spend the next 20 - 25 years on the court chaffing under the leadership of Bill Clinton! As for the other three conservative justices, Rehnquist, O'Connor and Kennedy will all retire within the next few years.
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