Jack_Dawson
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:07 PM
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Osama Tape: Advantage Kerry |
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Does anyone really believe it favors Bush? Keep in mind at the RNC they mentioned Osama a grand total of one (1) time. They wanted to "make him go away" by not bringing him up. Well guess what? He's alive and well and still issuing threats - 3 years after 9/11. "Dead or Alive" my ass.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:22 PM
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1. Absolutely...the OBL tape helps people realize what a FAILURE |
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bush* is....
bush* dropped the name Osama bin Laden from his vocabulary a LONG LONG LONG time ago....mentioned OBL only one time, in the debates, because Kerry forced bush* to say it....
NOW, BIG TIME on TV...there is OBL....the FACT that OBL is still alive and healthy should SHOCK many Americans....afterall, almost all bush* supporters actually think we KILLED OBL....all bush* ever talks about is saddam hussein....
nobody wants to see OBL, and missing explosives in Iraq, and beheadings almost daily, and the carnage in BOTH Iraq and Afganistan...the whole time, our gasoline prices have skyrocketed....
this OBL tape is REAL BAD for bush*....on CNN, the bush* talking head looked horrified, shocked, and was rather speachless, flinging around insults at Kerry and Moore, rather than answering questions from wolfie, she blubbered and sidestepped....bush* doesn't know what to say....
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:23 PM
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3 years later, Osama still thumbing his nose at the U.S. The guy looks healthy, too. He's not hiding out in some cave. He's sipping margaritas and laughing at us.
Time for new management.
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Jack_Dawson
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:25 PM
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4. "Sipping Margaritas and Laughing at Us" LOL!!! |
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:23 PM
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3. I think it depends on the media |
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The evening newscasts should be interesting.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:27 PM
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:25 PM
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5. Let's see... TONS of missing high yield explosives.. and BTW... |
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...Osama just put in an appearance and proved HE'S still on the loose and in good health. Better hope they didn't make their way to him.
Hit the media with this concern. Make the two issues the same story.
-Grant
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:26 PM
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But it seems like some (even on this board?) think otherwise.:-(
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:29 PM
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9. this board has been totally invaded.....REAL DUers know that an |
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OBL appearance is REAL BAD for bush*.....
the invaders are just trying to get US to parrot their reTHUGlican crap...and spread it.....
sorry, we aren't going to do it....
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:29 PM
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8. I must say I have been playing Devil's advocate, trying to spin for Bush |
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and I can't come up with a single positive for Bush. OBL's mere presence higlights Bush;s failure in the WOT. Now please kick my thread.... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1216083
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:31 PM
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10. I absolutely agree. OBL is alive. Bush didn't get him. |
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Republicans have been saying for two years that OBL is dead. Must be a shock for lots of them. Maybe will influence THEIR vote. Maybe they were thinking Bush made them safer because they thought he had killed OBL. Now they don't feel so safe with Bush. I think this undermines the Republican message that Bush has kept us so safe.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:33 PM
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11. Yup - Rumsfeld has intimated OBL is dead many, many times |
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:33 PM
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12. I don't know. As sick as this may sound..... Kerry has to win the Spin |
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war That's going to be going on for the next 3 days
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:35 PM
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13. What "spin" is there to win? |
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OBL is ALIVE! Bush's WOT has FAILED!
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Fri Oct-29-04 06:55 PM
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27. There will be lots of spin. |
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On the other hand, Bush has jumped the shark for a lot of people -- not just DUers, but ordinary, not-so-well-informed Americans, including some Republicans. I think only a few will jump back to Bush.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:36 PM
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14. no help for chimp...its all good for Kerry though :) |
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:37 PM
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15. of course it helps Bush |
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9-11 is all he has and now that's front and center again.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:39 PM
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16. Is it 9-11 or the perpetrator who brought it about front and center now? |
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I see these as distincitvely different.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:43 PM
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18. I agree with you... Doesn't help Kerry, that's for sure.... |
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:52 PM
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20. "Smoke Him out of his Hole" is front and center again... |
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Well...guess they didn't find the right hole.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:40 PM
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17. Operation Run And Hide |
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Mission Accomplished.
OBL ran and hid and he's still alive and taunting us. There is no way in hell this will help the Chimp. He's already scared the easily-scareable into thinking he's "Keeping Us Safe". This won't increase that support by a single a vote, indeed if anything it will cost him votes even from the weak minded frightened people... He didn't look or seem particularly intimidated by Decisive Popular War-Time President Bush to me.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:47 PM
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19. since only 2% of americans have the sac to read OBL's transcript |
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they're going to just take *'s word that OBL endorses Kerry. I already heard one "recent college graduate" on NPR thursday say that he's voting bush to spite the terrorists - this just confirms his ignorant opinions.
thanks for fucking with our democracy, OBL you murdering medieval fuck.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:59 PM
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I have never served in the military, I barely know how to use a gun, but I feel like goin after that son of a bitch right now.
I fear that many will want to show up Osama, and vote for Bush. Even though it is the complete opposite. Osama likes Bush policies. He wanted protracted war in the middle east.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:55 PM
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:57 PM
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22. Agree, but the person the tape helps most is OBL. |
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I don't think the purpose of the tape is to influence the election, scare Americans, or somehow telegraph a future move.
While we tend to think all this is about us, OBL's tape could be meant to give himself exposure in the huge Muslim world and rally support there. The timing gives him maximum exposure.
The tape really didn't have anything meaty in it anyway. It's about airtime for him. This should fade in the US shortly, IMO, but the media will blare it for all it's worth.
That OBL is alive helps Kerry. The Pet Goat reference helps Kerry. Kerry's reaction (respectable, presidential) helps Kerry. If we ignore Al Qaqaa, Halliburton, etc for the next four days, Bush gains. But OBL, invisible for two years, is helped the most.
Bush = Bill Murray in Caddyshack, wreaking havoc to rid himself of pest OBL = gopher that occansionally pops up to dance in Murray's face
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Fri Oct-29-04 07:00 PM
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28. Yes, thanks, you've got it. OBL is a megalomaniac, period. |
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No-one should give any importance to what he says; it's just to serve his ends, and has no bearing on the fitness of either candidate.
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Fri Oct-29-04 05:59 PM
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24. Here's what worries me |
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This is the perfect opening for the bushies to announce that smirky will make an important policy speech, which will then be covered by all the news channels for the next three days. I feel like I shouldn't even post this, shouldn't even give them the idea - but im sure rove is way ahead of me.
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Fri Oct-29-04 06:03 PM
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25. Let him give a "policy speech" over the weekend |
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I'm sure both people watching will be very impressed. :eyes:
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Fri Oct-29-04 07:00 PM
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29. Thanks for the laugh! nt |
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Fri Oct-29-04 06:47 PM
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26. bush* even shut down the middle east newspapers and TV to prevent |
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another osama bin laden video....
bush* totally eliminated OBL from his vocabulary...
bush* has tried every LIE possible to imply that OBL is DEAD....most bush* supporters actually believe that bush* killed OBL.....
bush* tried to prevent tape from being shown at all on American TV
although people will discuss forever what OBL said and the tranlations will differ...the FACT is there on TV all across America.....BUSH FAILED....OBL is STILL ALIVE......
time to replace the failed bush* cabal....
VOTE on Tuesday Nov. 2nd vote for John F. Kerry, a real American Patriot....
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Fri Oct-29-04 07:03 PM
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30. WE know all that - but do the common uninformed yokels?? n/t |
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