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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:42 PM
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NBC News: Dems say OBL tape kills Kerry's momentum
that's funny, you didn't mention his momentum earlier in the week :eyes:

why mention it now? oh, that's right, to say he's LOSING it because of this tape that's been out two hours :eyes:

i'd like to know WHICH dems told carl quintanilla that they fear kerry's losing momentum. what bull shit.

let the spin begin!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:43 PM
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1. Probably the same person who told Novak that Zogby picked Bush
No one.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:43 PM
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2. Huh?
What Democrats said that?
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:43 PM
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3. What Dems?
Please list what Dems said this on NBC News.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:44 PM
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5. re-read the post.
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 05:44 PM by newsguyatl
carl just said "dems fear"
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:44 PM
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4. Did NBC name a name, or just say "some Dems say"
you know, like Faux News does?

Let me guess the answer to that.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:45 PM
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6. Our momentum is fuel by the thought of defeating Bush next week not OBL's
tape.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:45 PM
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7. Zell Miller and Tammy Bruce, I bet...
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 07:51 PM
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40. Zell Miller.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:46 PM
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8. of course it does
the story is no longer the explosives. This was the October surprise.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:48 PM
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13. But I believe Kerry is handling it extremely well
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:50 PM
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19. So you think, like I fear, that they had the tape of OBL, even tho
it's negative for Bush, and released it right before the election? Earliest date is September...mention of 1,000 troops dead...
According to John King, "Quite remarkable that Pres. Bush was speaking today about 9/11.." No coincidence. God I hate these liars.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:03 PM
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25. of course
we knew this was coming. Kerry needs to deal with it to close the deal.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 07:03 PM
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37. And he knews it was coming, too
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:48 PM
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35. bush is ALWAYS FUCKING SPEAKING
about "9/11"! The day he and his crew let America get attacked!
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:46 PM
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9. The "former dem strategist" that Faux alwasy marches out
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 05:47 PM by MidwestTransplant
Don't remember his name?
(Not Morris)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:47 PM
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11. Dick "toesucker" Morris?
:puke:
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priapis Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 07:04 PM
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38. Toe Morriss the Dick sucker.... I mean.....
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:12 PM
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28. Ick. Pat Caddell--the Zell Miller of consultants. eom
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 07:49 PM
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39. Bingo!
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:46 PM
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10. People it's going to be a toss up now.
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 05:47 PM by Fluffdaddy
I don't know who will win :(

Turn out turn out TURN OUT.....................VOTE
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:49 PM
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15. Turnout was always the key
The tape doesn't change that.
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:47 PM
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12. Yeah, which Dems?
This is bullshit, IMHO.
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:49 PM
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16. that's my point people!!!!!
he didn't SAY which dems.


just said "dems say the fear kerry losing momentum"


my whole POINT is that i VERY seriously doubt ANY dems would have told him this.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:48 PM
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14. Bush failed to capture OBL... what a horrible day for Kerry!
Desperate flailing, straw clutching...

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Julian English Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:49 PM
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17. Check. Didn't they also say * won the debates?
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GDoyle Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:49 PM
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18. It was Russert
He's such a dirtbag. I hate that jackass. He's sitting there talking about a Gore state...GASP....Michigan being in play. Which, logically, it really isn't. Did he bother to mention all the Bush states Chimpy is on the verge of losing? Nope. Asshole.

GDoyle
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RinaJ Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:51 PM
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20. Russert? Aw hell...
...fuck that smug blubbery bastard. I waited four years to cast my vote to get Shrub out of office, and I'm still high from the feeling, as are a lot of very pissed-off African-Americans in Duval County and around the country.

And yeah, lot of white folks was mad, too! :D
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:36 PM
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33. Welcome to DU, Rina!
:hi:
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NurseLefty Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:54 PM
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21. I think I'm getting quesy...
As we speak, I am guessing that the East Coast has the OBL story on the evening news, and this story will draw more responses by the 6pm Pacific time. I don't have cable presently so I don't have to suffer through the talking heads' ad nauseum speculations.
But, I can see this story molding into a message that galvanizes the "let's not change horses in midstream" mantra.
Anyone who follows such logic needs to remember that Bush DROPPED THE BALL in trying get bin Laden!
Yet, sadly, so much is lost on too many fellow Americans.
I think I'm gonna :puke:
LET'S FIGHT THIS!!

PS I'm a long-time DU watcher, and a newbie member!
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:01 PM
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22. Well it sure killed any other kind of discussion on this board
What is with all the OBL threads?
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Christiandem Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:01 PM
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23. Why would Americans rally to *** over video
I've been reading these posts for the last 6 months (my very first post by the way), and how all of us have been worried about Bin Laden being trolled out of the White House in chains by *** in front of the "librul" media. (the worse case scenario, or pretty much the kiss of death) But guys, THIS DID NOT HAPPEN!!! Instead, we have some tape of him trying to explain to us why he committed an act of mass murder, and him bashing on Bush. To my knowledge, he did not implicitly said that he will strike us soon. (but then again, it goes unsaid that he wants the end of us) So, why would Americans get all freaked out and rally to **. I mean, if obl said that he will strike terror in our elections, then I would start to worry, because then Americans really will freak out and rally to **. At this point, I just don't quite see it. (although I want to see a different opinion on this issue)

The thing I am worried about, is obl's switch to talk about freedom and all that warm and fuzzy stuff. Obviously, this is not intended for us. I hope this is not some hidden message for islamis fundamentalists to start trouble in the Middle East.

Regarding momentum... Pleeeeze. No one in the media ever mentioned Kerry having momentum, and all of them were actually saying how bushie is ahead. Reminds of what they were saying after the repub convention about how Bush has wiped out the kerry gains, when the librul media all along had been saying that Kerry did not make any gain from his post convention talk.

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:16 PM
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29. great post..
keep em coming. :hi:
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:57 PM
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36. Right. The fact that Osama was able to make another video
is a slap in the face to * & Co. I hardly think they can make this crap smell like roses. It smells only like Rove.

By now most voters have (a) decided; (b) voted early or absentee; (c) decided to sit this one out for lack of enthusiasm (mostly Repukes, IMHO). The tape will only reinforce their convictions, since they will vindicate their choice because of it. It won't change many votes, if it changes any.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:01 PM
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24. Have they forgotten that some people have already voted? n/t
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:03 PM
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26. so stop saying it
it is not necessarily true
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:11 PM
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27. I say: nbc not a real "news" organization
I mean these turds would sell their own mothers for the sake of the almighty $$$$$$$$$$$...

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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:27 PM
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30. Kerry should go back to the...
missing explosives this weekend. That story really isn't dead. The news channels are covering *both* stories. And the "missing explosives" story may actually still have more legs, with the bin Laden story falling off quickly.

Re: bin Laden, all Kerry need do to stay on the high road *unless* Bush turns it into an attack, then bash Bush over the head with "you still haven't caught him, have you?"
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:30 PM
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31. That's easy - it was Zell Miller - had to be - what a load of crap
Anyone who can't see through the timing of the release of this video is too fucking stoopid to live. Come on network whores! get a clue! Bush gets killed by negative press and lo and behold Osama releases a new video. God how can people BE so stupid!?!?

Sorry, I am in a really foul fucking mood. Had a student (9 years old) threaten suicide today. Just learned they have admitted her to the hospital. What kind of world is this where 9 year olds want to kill themselves!?!?!
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:35 PM
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32. OBL said
"your security isn't in the hands of Kerry or Bush, it's in your own hands"

THAT'S THE MOST AMERICAN THING I'VE HEARD ON THE NEWS IN A YEAR!!!

Every *one* of these channels is worse than useless, they're un-american. If I want to check the status of Kerry's momentum, I'll look in the *fucking mirror*, and then get back to the phone bank.

3 more days, time to turn it on.

GOTV!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 06:46 PM
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34. I just got home to all this
obl shit..and I can tell you that no matter what tweety says..this will only help our cause..

bush is on record saying he didn't care about osama anymore. bush didn't get him when he could and Kerry has been talking about that..

I just remembered mary matlin said something about him on one of those pisspundit shows..that obl was in cave somewhere and might as well have been caught..he couldn't go anywhere! They had no idea!

And we were wondering what the Oct. Surprise would be?..If obl would be captured on ice? WEll, it's OUR OCTOBER SURPRISE!

Kerry's going to Win!
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