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Mon Nov-01-04 11:31 PM
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Natl Media: No question, they feel the tide has turned to Kerry. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:32 PM by xyboymil
Watching the pundits on virtually every news media outlet I could find, I was rather taken back by how many are sensing a Kerry victory tomorrow.
MSNBC, CNN,CBS, NBC, ABC news hell even Fox news are all reporting 2 major developments:
**They are beginning to realize how much of the 18-29 year old voters are coming out in mass to vote.
**They also are quietly but now consistently realizing the polling data they have greatly underestimated how many new voters are casting ballots in 2004. Finally, many are seeing the light that the polling data they have may not be worth the paper it's written on.
When "bow tie" boy Tucker from Crossfire is predicting a Kerry win tomorrow, you know the tide has gone significantly toward Kerry's favor.
It's simply undeniable. Kerry will win tomorrow. And by a bigger margain then anyone thought. :toast:
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:35 PM
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You are making me want to bounce off the walls!!!!! I don't know if I can take so much good news!!!!!
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:38 PM
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4. I have to admit it, I was floored watching these news channels.. |
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They have all realized Kerry may not just win, he may win by a significant margin based on the MASS number of new voters coming out.
It's simply priceless to see Hannity, Scarborough, O'rielly looking pale and nauseated.
I just love it. :evilgrin:
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:05 AM
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30. The one question I'm waiting to be asked |
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is "Why do Americans hate America?"
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:34 AM
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48. lol...you peepul are killin' me |
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:36 PM
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2. Buchanan predicted a popular vote win |
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for Bush and EV win for Kerry.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:55 PM
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Bush couldn't garner the popular vote last time, and THIS time he's dealing with 4 years of anger over the stolen election, and his failings..
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:37 PM
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3. They finally started admitting the current polling methods are useless |
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I don't care how long they've been reliable, today's technology has made them obsolete.
I cannot WAIT to see the final numbers to show them just how far off they were. :toast:
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:40 PM
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feel somewhat sadden that it will take the 18-29 year olds to "save" us from this threat to our constitution?
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:42 PM
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it just means they are getting politically active at a younger age.
Good for them.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:42 PM
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7. Being in the 18-29 year old crowd, I feel proud and honored to be |
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:43 PM by jab105
saving our country...Rush has had his way with many in middle age, and if it takes us to bring this country back, then will will do our duty:)
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:17 AM
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45. I am proud and honored-and humbly thankful |
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that we are fighting on the same side! Thank you all!
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Tue Nov-02-04 06:14 AM
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From all of us who passed the 18-29 age group some time ago.
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Tue Nov-02-04 06:25 AM
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Thank you and to all of those in your age group. I've been at this since '72 (as a 7 year old, I worked my tail off stuffing envelopes and walking neighborhoods hanging lit on doorknobs for McGovern), and I am truly humbled by the GOTV efforts of your generation.
LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!!!!!
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:43 PM
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8. I am an 18-29 year old. |
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:44 PM by coloradodem2004
Don't insult me. I am 25, so I am within the age group. So, you must bow before me for saving your asses. :evilgrin:
Just kidding!!!
But don't dis me.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:49 PM
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12. I'm a 52 year old boomer... |
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and I'm glad that we have the 18 - 29 year olds to save this country. Too many of my age cohort are too spoiled and self-centered to vote for the good of the country.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:11 AM
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33. My eteranl thanks to the newest Generation if this comes to pass. |
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I remember when I could vote for the first time when I was 18. I'm almost 52 now, and haven't missed an election vote yet!
Can't say much about the turn-coat "raygun democrat" turncoats. I will NEVER forgive them for bringing us to this moment!
They will forever have my scorn.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:32 AM
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37. I heard that Tanklv. n/t |
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:52 PM
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15. as a 49 year old, I bow to the youth |
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I am profoundly embarrassed by the mess the world is in given the high hopes when I was first voting. I thank you and the rest. Rock on.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:06 AM
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I am very proud to hear of the tremendous, apparent participation of the 18 to 28 year old group. Why it is making a difference is that the age group has a long track record of being apathetic to wards politics and they have as all thinking and rational people have realized that Bush must go and that we all as Americans have to come together to send him packing. While I am very grateful to that age group for voting we all have or will have equal impact on the outcome of this election as the 18 to 28 year old group could not elect Kerry alone nor could any age group but as one solid mass of Americans who care about this country we can liberate America from the scummy clutches of George Bush and company. Now lets do it them come back and pat each other on the back. Go Kerry/Edwards!!
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:23 AM
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36. THANK YOU TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE! |
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You do us proud. I'm honored to be your geezer (40).
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:56 AM
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41. You-all will have my undying gratitude if you turn-out as we hope. |
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A volunteer army indeed--democracy IS on the march.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:10 AM
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44. I'm 61 and gladly bow to you for your wisdom and involvement. |
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In my book, you are just awesome and I am so proud of you.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:38 AM
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51. we're bowin', we're bowin'!! |
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:40 AM
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53. you crack me up! Thanks, smartass! :) |
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:45 PM
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10. Not sadden at all! Thank god for them! |
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It is their future that they are voting for -- and their lives.
I am greatly hearted that they have at last taken the interest to realize that their vote does count.
In the 60s and 70s my generation insisted on a change.
We need their votes and they need the wisdom of the wise gray hairs.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:47 PM
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I'm gonna say no. I don't know a single person my age that isn't voting, and they aren't voting the way their parents tell them to either.
When I was still in highschool my chemistry teacher (one of my favorite teachers, he's one of the reasons i mjored in chem) told me that our generation was going to be the laziest ever, none of us would vote and we'd just wind up being slackers all our lives
I'd love to see his face after tommorow
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:57 PM
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The elders said that about my generation too.
This happy gen Xer is voting for Kerry.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:49 PM
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the activation of that demographic could mean the difference b/w four more years of bush and not just a Kerry victory, but a sustained democratic movement for years to come.
I'm in that age group, and while I've voted in every election since Clinton's second term, I no a lot of peers who are voting for the first time. That isn't sad, it's fandammntastic. And once they get a taste of the power they actually hold, perhaps we can keep them in the loop in future elections. Hopefully they'll feel a sense of ownership towards the Kerry administration.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:51 PM
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14. It was 20 year olds fighting for it....... |
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:54 PM
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16. Saddened? Hell, I'm ENCOURAGED!! |
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Thank you Lord for a generation of intelligent young people!!
Bake
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:55 PM
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It has always been the youth of our country...so full of optimism and courage to lead the way. At 51 years of age, I support hteir effort on our behalf.
-P
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Tue Nov-02-04 05:58 AM
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I am proud that they are on the right side and with their efforts we can rid the world of a true evil, and I know that the torch always gets passed--it has to. But I am saddened that the boomers can't or won't see through Bush, especially since it was the boomers that so clearly saw the mess that nixon made
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:55 PM
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20. Why would it sadden you? |
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:56 PM by humanbeing
They (we, as I am within that range) are realizing our civil duties and stepping up. It should make you smile.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:59 PM
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23. Don't give them all the credit. I had an 80 year old lady |
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making 100 follow-up phone calls for my canvassing. And nobody hung up on her. Nobody hangs up on a Grandmother of nine!
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:01 AM
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24. Hell no! The young voters are OUR future |
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As a certified old fart-curmudgeon I am thrilled that young voters are back. It is a wave to rival that of my youth (60's) when the first liberal movement started.
I'd call them the neoprogressives, but in today's world anything neo sounds so ugly.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:01 AM
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I'm 44 and I'm all choked up (really and truly). These people are our future - let them not sell out to the almighty $, their own comfort, and a very narrow world view like mine did.
GOD BLESS YOU "KIDS"!:yourock:
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:01 AM
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26. I'm happy to have a generation of new Democrats at my back |
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:03 AM
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I am proud of the youth of our country.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:05 AM
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I was politically-active a lot younger than that, long before I was legally able to vote at 18. Back in my day, it was thought that young people held the key to reforming our system. And, although we only got part way there (and then had to watch our progress get turned back in the darkness of the Reagan-Bush 41 '80s), it seems fitting to see those in that age bracket pick up the torch and lead us out of the present darkness, just as we did 35-45 years ago.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:37 AM
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Then again, I fall in that bracket anyway, but since we will be the ones running this country in the near future, it does make sense that we should save it so we can do that and get it ready for those who will follow us.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:42 AM
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...I'm from the 70's "me" generation, and I've been waiting most of my life to see the youth become involved in politics again as they were in my older brothers and sisters generation from the 60's. All I got to say, is its about GD time that the youth of this nation raised its head, and said "no more".
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:30 AM
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47. Nope. They're the ones who have the most to lose. |
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It figures they'd be especially motivated. And don't forget it was the same age group that protested the Vietnam war and finally convinced the country that it had to stop.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:39 AM
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52. No! If my 7 yr. son could vote he would. |
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This little boy and a couple of his friends for the past 2 weeks have gone door to door reminding people to vote for Kerry. When asked why, they say to Save America for them.
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:44 PM
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It sounds so gooood- Break out the Marine Corps band in their best uniforms, play Hail to the Chief, and run Shrub and Co. outta D.C. on a rail. heeeee haaaaaw!
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Mon Nov-01-04 11:55 PM
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18. i'm reminded of the "shock" of everyone that F/911 was a blockbuster |
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the media's really underestimated us again. they now see what we've seen for years. better late than never, i guess...
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:03 AM
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27. It only took them until the night before the election. |
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to figure out what we have known for months. Stupid assholes.
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:03 AM
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28. After what I've seen the media cover up with this incompent, corrupt, |
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lying administration, I will never view them in the same way...Blood is on their hands because of money valued more than life.....THAT is what the media underestimated I hope; not the underestimated, undercounted, cellphoning youth vote...ad nauseum
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:11 AM
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34. The empowerment of this younger generation in this election is fantastic |
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They are learning that they matter so much they may actually be saving the whole planet by becoming involved. They are certainly saving the country. I am so proud of them for answering the call and truly "watching our backs."
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:27 AM
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As a member of the youth (age 24), I am proud to say that in approximately 5.5 hours I will be casting my ballot for John Kerry. This election is so important. I decided to take the day off tommorow and help out in VA (it will be close).
We can do this together. :-)
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:46 AM
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I'm 23 and am thrilled to be making a difference. I volunteered calling swing voters in PA since I couldn't go there to go door to door (I live in NY).
Don't let anyone tell you differently, young people are on fire and ready to fight to take this country back!
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:17 AM
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35. LOL Ron Silver is now asking what Kerry will do... |
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Even that guy sees the writing on the wall. And man do I love seeing Reagan's son stick it to Luntz and Ben Ginsberg. Hell yeah!!!
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Tue Nov-02-04 12:40 AM
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39. The voting youth of America is leading! |
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Bless you! A force to be reckoned with going forward. Slackers no more!
That still doesn't leave a media with any excuses for their appalling gaffes at not covering an election by speaking to everyone and being beyond the bubble. The media and their masters are miserable failures.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:01 AM
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42. Aren't these 18-24 year old voters called the "Millennium Generation"? |
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These young people are more like the Boomers ... idealistic and with a world view. The Gen X'ers are a more conservative and nationalistic group. The 18-24 year olds are worrying about a draft and an unjust and unpopular war just like their Boomer elders did.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:06 AM
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43. I'm amazed by these kids. |
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My son, who I gave everything I could when he was growing up, absolutely disdains materialism. He really enjoys a simpler existence and is a solid Kerry voter. I'm actually somewhat in awe of him since it took me years to reach that level of personal satisfaction. I have hope for the future.
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:36 AM
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49. I'm 18...and lovin it! |
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I'm so excited that my first Presidential Election is the most controversial. :D
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:42 AM
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Thanks for doing your part. I was 17 1/2 the first Reagan election in 1980 and I remember feeling so gipped that I didn't get to vote! and pissed at the outcome! You will be making history today, my friend.
Peace, AL
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:44 AM
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55. Well, I voted absentee |
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So, I kinda feel bad that I'll be missing all of the excitement at the polls in the morning. :(
Oh well...I voted. :)
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Tue Nov-02-04 01:37 AM
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50. Faux, MSGOP and Clearly Not News are hedging their |
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bets. They're trying to save their skins when President Kerry takes over and they won't be able to deal exclusively in lies any longer. Fuck them.
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Tue Nov-02-04 06:23 AM
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59. It's been 28 years since my first presidential election (Carter) |
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And I can't get my leg up like I used to -- so I'll leave kicking Dopey's ass to you kids. John And I mean "kids" in the best possible way. Go get 'em. This geezer's right behind you -- wearing the oxygen mask.
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