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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:54 PM
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Greg Palast: Kerry Won...
Link: http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php

"I know you don't want to hear it. You can't face one more hung chad.  But I don't have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it's my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry."

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"So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know."


"Here's why. Although the exit polls show that most voters in Ohio punched cards for Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was predictable and it was predicted. "

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"And not all votes spoil equally. Most of those votes, say every official report, come from African-American and minority precincts.

We saw this in Florida in 2000. Exit polls showed Gore with a plurality of at least 50,000, but it didn't match the official count. That's because the official, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, excluded 179,855 spoiled votes.  In Florida, as in Ohio, most of these votes lost were cast on punch cards where the hole wasn't punched through completely—leaving a 'hanging chad,'—or was punched extra times.  Whose cards were discarded? Expert statisticians investigating spoilage for the government calculated that 54 percent of the ballots thrown in the dumpster were cast by black folks. (To read the report from the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, click here .)"

They didn't even bother being original this time - same crap they pulled in Florida last time around.

:argh:
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:44 PM
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1. Kick.
:kick:

Just this once, and I'll let it die.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:47 PM
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2. kick
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:48 PM
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3. hmmm...
"Today, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports there are a total of 247,672 votes not counted in Ohio, if you add the 92,672 discarded votes plus the 155,000 provisional ballots."

Bush only won Ohio by a 136K votes.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:56 PM
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4. Exactly.
We have to assume that the vast majority of the spoiled votes were for Kerry. That brings it down to a reasonably close race - close enough that Kerry had a chance with the provisional ballots.
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