rockydem
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:18 PM
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Is this proof of something fishy? |
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:23 PM
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1. The E-Touchscreen Dem. county VoterTurnouts are lower |
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much lower than all the other counties. Suppression?
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:30 PM
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2. something looks wacked... |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 04:40 PM by berner59
What is opscan anyway?? Why are so many Repub # so high and so many Dem # a negative number?? Which areas are Dem based though and how does that square?? Did you give this to anyone with info power????
In Liberty if 7.9% of 4,075 are Registered Rep, how do 1,927 end up voting for Bush when only 237 were expected??? This is messed up... Good job though!!
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:32 PM
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3. I found it on an Atrios comments thread - so it's being passed around |
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I don't know what to make of it. I just don't...
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:46 PM
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4. Where is Lafayette County? |
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Lafayette Op-Scan-Precinct:
Reported Total Turnout: 77.2%
PERCENT CHANGE (From expected to actual)
REPS.........DEMS.........Total
+459.3%......-69.3%
ACTUAL RESULTS
2,460......845..........3,325
EXPECTED VOTES %REP......%DEM
13.2%......82.8%
REGISTERED
440......2,755..........4,309
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:52 PM
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8. this is messed up..... |
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Totally flipped around...boy there is something to this... Don't we as Americans have the right to protest this election, what will it take???
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:58 PM
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9. It does seem kind of unlikely that Democrats would go out of their way |
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to cross party lines in those numbers. Would all those Dems really be motivated to cross party lines? In Florida? What kind of county is Lafayette anyway? If it's the boonies where Democrat means Dixiecrat, that might be more plausible. But is there still a place where Dixiecrats haven't caught onto switching registration?
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Thu Nov-04-04 05:05 PM
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10. They're represented by Allen Boyd, a Blue Dog "Democrat" |
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Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 05:06 PM by BurtWorm
But a Democrat, nevertheless.
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:52 PM
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5. My daugher brought a friend of hers home today, of course I asked |
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her if she voted, she said she tried and they did not have her recorded, she has her cared liscense that matched the address but they refused to allow that she was legal..
The problem? She is one whom is on welfare and has been for a few years, according to many, an obvious Democratic voter, her parents, both had no problem voting, they? He works for the oil companies and so in Texas, seemingly a Bush supporter.
Her sister was in the same boat, of course she did not persue this illegality though I wished she would have, how many others here in Texas had this same problem and like her, just did not have the time or knowledge how to fight that? Many I am sure, I told her she could have, the lady at the polls should have told her the same...
So for those so sure that many people that use the system and whom the dems fight for think they did not try to vote, think again, okay? And realize that like the last election, this one was stolen as well...
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:52 PM
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6. Are optical scans the ballots with the broken arrow that is colored in? |
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There are a few counties that are way out of wack.
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Thu Nov-04-04 04:52 PM
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7. READ THIS along with the history of diebold |
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Fri Nov-05-04 03:51 AM
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12. Allow me to shed some light on this... |
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I have been studying this issue fairly closely. I pulled the voting records for these counties from 1996, 2000 and 2004. Even in 1996 they had a tendancy to vote more GOP than the registration numbers would suggest; HOWEVER these numbers really jumped in 2000 and 2004
Now, when you look deeper into these counties and compare the registered voter numbers against the census data, you find what I think is something surprising. People in these counties seemed to registered to vote in MUCH higher numbers than the rest of the country. There is a consistent 70_>80% registration using the 2000 numbers (2000 census against 2000 election results) rate and I thought the national average was much lower than this (someone please correct me if I am wrong).
I suspect that there is some form of vote manipulation going on. Just based on a hunch, I think that since 2000, the GOP has been "moving" some people over from "safe" states and registering them in Florida for the sole purpose of voting in the elections.
However, to be extra tricky, these people are registering DEMOCRAT. Why would the democrats ever suspect that or even look into a surge in their own registration.
If you spread out people enough, you can easily hide 20K->50K voters throughout the state of Florida by having them register as if they lived at a friend's house and then show up to vote there. The smaller the town, the more obvious it will become after the votes are cast, because you will end up with numbers like you see on that chart. This many voters would certainly help tilt a close election. Combine this with some of the other methods (vote supression, challenges and BBV) and you have some insurance.
The question is, how do you find out for sure????
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Fri Nov-05-04 04:17 AM
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We don't need to "find out for sure" to start the process of investigating this.
This is NOT an innocent until proven guilty situation, and most of the de-bunkers are trying to portray it as though it were. Election results must be proven to be CLEAN beyond a reasonable doubt to be accepted. That is where the burden of proof is, not on those questioning the results. Anomalies like this are cause for investigation. Period.
Police don't have to prove a theory about a crime before they start investigating it, or no crimes would ever be solved. It is not until a suspect is in court that he is innocent until proven guilty. The police don't have to prove who is guilty before they start questioning suspects. They chase down every lead and investigate every hunch.
There is ample cause for suspicion of these results by any reasonable person. Suspicion is sufficient grounds for pursuing it and finding out the truth.
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Fri Nov-05-04 04:34 AM
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15. Milo, do you have a link to election results from '96? |
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Especially if it includes exit polls. I have data in Excel files but I work with them all day and it would be much more convenient to scan a well designed website.
I posted last night I thought your temporary resident theory was feasible, a supersized version of what the GOP did moving the recount thugs to Florida in 2000. It could never be detected without specifically looking for it.
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Fri Nov-05-04 04:23 AM
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14. it looks very fishy to me. Jeb has done his work |
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Fri Nov-05-04 04:37 AM
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are we just barking at the moon here, or is this, and Ohio going to be investigated? What's happening? Is it really over??
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