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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 06:54 PM
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CLARK Wins the California Young Democrats' Straw Poll!
In what was honestly a shocker to me, General Clark won the straw poll at the Democratic state Convention here in California among the collective Young Democrats' organizations! The vote was close with Dean coming in second, and it was only a non-binding straw poll, but it was a very interesting sign nevertheless.

I agree with another poster's sentiment about how Clark appeared to have more supporters than Dean at the Convention, at least on Saturday/Sunday. (On Friday, there appeared to be more Dean supporters, but then Wes Clark Jr. got to work and our stickers and buttons also became more widely disseminated due to our constant, pervasive tabling...Dean had certainly had a large head start on stickers and buttons in the Bay Area, prior to this weekend.)

Clark has support in California among young people, and I believe he will do very well here in March.

DTH
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 06:59 PM
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:04 PM
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3. After the McGovern endoresement...
who looks the fool here?
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:06 PM
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6. Uhhh...McGovern?
LOL.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:10 PM
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10. I can see why you don't like McGovern.
eom
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:08 PM
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7. clark supporters are republicans. oh please.
guess he's just following the example set by dean. owell..
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:10 PM
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11. Actually, I believe it was clearly the Young Democrats
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 07:15 PM by Rowdyboy
who endorsed General Clark. Do you have any reason to imply they are not young Democrats or is there another purpose for your slur (which is against DU rules)?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:15 PM
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13. This repug thing
is getting really old :boring: McGovern wouldn't endorse a repug.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:00 PM
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2. Dennis, did you see this?
For Immediate Release
Date: January 18, 2004


Senator George McGovern Remarks For Endorsement
Manchester, NH
January 18, 2004

Thank you, Dudley for that kind introduction. We've been friends for a long time, and it's heartening to see that some thirty years later, you're still willing to come out in the cold for me.

Thirty-two years ago, thanks to the support of Democratic and Independent Voters right here in New Hampshire, I proudly stood as the presidential candidate of our party -- the Democratic Party.

Today, I am proud to stand here this morning and announce my support for a true progressive, a true Democrat, and the next president of the United States.

A man whose progressive policies on education, taxation, health care are in the finest tradition of the Democratic Party.

A man whose ideals, decency, and compassion are in the great tradition of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, and Bill Clinton.

A man whose life's work and devotion to America will serve as a beacon to our young and give pride to us all.

That man is Wes Clark - and he will lead our party to victory in November.

Like Wes Clark, I'm a veteran. I was an airman in World War II. And I believe there is nothing more patriotic than serving your country.

I also believe there is nothing more patriotic than speaking out - and standing up for what you believe in. That was one of the reasons I ran for president in 1972 - because I believed that Vietnam was a not a war America should be fighting. Back then, Wes Clark was an officer in the United States Army. And in the election of '72, he voted for the other candidate. Let's call it youthful indiscretion. The good news is that this time we both agree.

Today, we are fighting the wrong war in Iraq. And that's one of the reasons I'm standing here today. Because there is only one man in this race with four stars on his shoulders and thirty-four years of military experience. There is only one man in this race who stopped genocide and saved 1.5 million Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. There is only one man in this race who has a success strategy to get us out of the war in Iraq - and get our servicemen and women home safely. And that man is Wes Clark.

Wes Clark is also a champion of America's working families, because he knows that you can't be strong abroad unless you're strong at home. Wes Clark understands the problems facing ordinary Americans, especially the three million Americans who've lost their job since George W. Bush arrived at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And the 44 million Americans don't have health care, and the thousands who can't afford the sky-rocketing costs of education.

Wes Clark is the only man who can get our country back on track. He's got a jobs program to get our economy going ... a real tax reform to help our working and hard-pressed families ... and a health care plan to make health care affordable for all Americans and universal for all our children. He wants to fight for all Americans, from all walks of life. These are not just Democratic values. These are American values.

Running for president is no easy task. And I have the battle scars to show it. I, too, was the subject of a few dirty tricks during my day. But I'll tell you, there is no better man to withstand the Republican attacks then Wes Clark. And the Republicans know that - they're running scared. The last thing they want is a four star general on their hands. So to my Republican friends out there: get ready, here we come.

Finally, let me say this: There are a lot of good Democrats in this race. But Wes Clark is the best Democrat. He is a true progressive. He's the Democrat's Democrat. I've been around the political block - and I can tell you, I know a true progressive when I see one. And that's why he has my vote.

Wes Clark will bring a higher standard of leadership back to Washington. He'll fight for America's interests, not the special interests. He'll bring honesty, openness, and accountability to the White House. He is a born leader.

That is why I am standing here today: because there's one man in this race with a success strategy in Iraq... there's one man who can really stand up for working American families ... there's one man who can beat George W. Bush - and take back the White House in 2004.

And that man is my friend, our leader, a true progressive, and the next Democratic president of the United States, Wes Clark.

Thank you.

http://www.clark04.com/press/release/193/


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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:09 PM
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9. Yes, and It's Awesome!
Between McGovern and Moore beating the bushes (no pun intended) for Clark in NH, I hope and believe this "Clark is a Republican" attack will be exposed for the idiocy it is.

DTH
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:04 PM
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4. Contrary to popular myth, Dean gets his support from older folks and Clark
gets his support from younger folks.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:08 PM
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8. Actually
My understanding based on most demographics info I've seen in the polls is that Clark cuts pretty evenly across most demographics, except that he pulls more from men than women.

Dean tends to pull more from the affluent and white demographic, and he pulls a lot more women than Clark does (although slightly more men than women). His support does skew slightly more "young," but it's not to the degree everyone thinks it is.

DTH
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:15 PM
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14. His support
among women will improve now that a) he's starting to get a lot more media attention and b) people are really just now starting to take a good look at the candidates.

If you've heard Clark speak or watched his appearances at town halls, his appeal to women should be obvious. It's just a matter of time.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:04 PM
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5. Hey cool
As a CA young person for Clark, good to know there's more out there. :)

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Lurking Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:14 PM
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12. DTH...
My county in Tennessee is, quite probably, the most Republican in the state. (It is also the richest.) Everyone used to joke about the Democratic Party meetings here taking place in a phone booth.

We had a chili supper Friday night where there were some spokespeople for various candidates and (I don't have the ticket count yet) it looked like about 200 people showed up. I kid you not!

We conducted a straw poll and Clark walked away with it at 48%!
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