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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:26 PM
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Can someone tell me what Kerry/Edwards positions were on Gay Marriage?
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 07:50 PM by mzmolly
I could swear they supported Civil Unions--allowing states to decide (Bush himself said he does as well.) But I don't recall anyone saying "Gay marriage must be legal in every state across the nation."

This is a faux issue folks.

:shrug:

I support the rights of my brothers and sisters (regardless of sexual orientation to marry) but there wasn't one Dem who made it into the top 4 who said that Gay Marriage should be legalized across the Nation. NOT ONE.

This is proof that we have to take back the media. I am so frustrated that even our own Dems fail to point out the obvious because they buy the media mind mush. Faux news is setting the tone and were taking it.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:54 PM
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1. Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton were for it
but i think it has more to do with where Kerry is from and making people believe things based on a stereotype of a northeastern, democratic politician, especially from massachusettes which was dealing with the issue.

the republicans spread campaign propaganda through churches based on which churches were conservative. that way those who aren't politically active yet do have personal beliefs can be influenced to get out there. they fell for all that stuff about how kerry is going to take away their bibles or they will go to hell if they vote for kerry.

this is why bill clinton told kerry to endorse all the state anti gay amendments on the ballots. bill clinton is a realist and has a great understanding of how people are in certain areas. remember, when clinton ran for president as part of a political move he went to see a mentally ill person put to death in his state. sadly, i think these things do help with a certain group of voters. but kerry refused to take this advice on the anti gay amendments. there was some graph which showed that the level of support kerry got went down with increase in support for the anti gay amendments in the states.

the republicans played to the bigoted feelings and fear of difference of the american people. this is how they have mostly survived as a party.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:00 PM
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4. I agree with your assessment.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 08:01 PM by mzmolly
Bigotry and fear allow them to survive.

I think it's time to start saying it too.

PS I knew about Kucinich and Sharpton, thus I said "the top 4" Dean/Gephardt/Edwards/Kerry.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:56 PM
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2. You are correct.
Regardless of our position on ANY issue, if the Republicans decide to lie about our position - and we don't fight back - it won't matter.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 07:57 PM
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3. best I can tell, Kerry's position on gay marriage was
to handle the issue so clumsily that the little bushturd's campaign would derive the maximum benefit from Kerry's position on gay marriage.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:23 PM
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5. Anyone who paid attention knows Kerry's position
Kerry personally opposes gay marriage, but doesn't believe it should be prohibited by a federal constitutional amendment. Kerry supports civil unions.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:31 PM
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6. He covered this in the third debate, I believe
I liked both his positions on gay marriage and abortion.

Abortion: personally pro-life, but not going to force his beliefs on you.

And that's my position too.

Gay marriage: personally believes marriage is between a man and a woman, but understands the underlyiing issues regarding partner rights. Has no problem with civil unions. Just prefers you keep it out of the church. I've met Repubs who have stated similar stances. I think it was probably slightly imperfect from the gay rights pov, but they realized that K/E were at least open to discussion and sensitive to the issues.

I met many a GLBT person in the campaign who were perfectly happy with the candidates.
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